Rahimdad 8,542 Report post Posted December 18, 2018 Here is one which we have never seen before. Awaiting comments to avoid such flips. VID-20181218-WA0004.mp4 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sertac 2,270 Report post Posted December 18, 2018 When he crossed he kept the steering left and collect sand in front of tire. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Srikumar 4,918 Report post Posted December 18, 2018 My view: 1. The car never reached the top of the ridge in order to cross over. I always feel that its important to ride the ridge a bit before crossing. 2. While crossing the rear of the car fish tailed causing the car to slide on the left side and then he was in a situation where the car was fighting gravity. Once the vehicle direction had turned 90 degree, it was always going to flip with the momentum. 3. Possible since the sand was churned up in the area his left front wheel got stuck which aggravated the problem of flipping. Bottom line, dont fight gravity...you might escape sometimes but not all the time. 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gaurav 14,020 Report post Posted December 18, 2018 Very valued points already mentioned, here is my take on such unique flip "ON THE CREST" that I have never seen before. His speed was way too fast to do the criss-cross on that ridge. Seems like experienced but a new driver with this much-lifted (8-10 inch) vehicle that is more prone to flips, or he may be new to sand entirely to judge the way how this tall ride react to such situations. He turned little early and sharply on the right side, instead, he should have gone a straight little bit, ride the ridge and gently steer right to do the transition from where earlier tracks have been shown. Even with the slightest lift before the flip, if he could have steer left immediately he could have avoided the flip and got stuck on the crest, with this much-lifted vehicle he could have self-recovered very easily. So getting stuck or refusal is way better than flip or a roll. While the flip was happening (00:03 - 00:06), he has left the gas and could have avoided this flip to a certain degree if he kept on flooring the pedal. He has given gas after the flip (00:06 - 00:08), pretty much useless in that angle. 8 1 Let's root for each other & watch each other grow. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rahimdad 8,542 Report post Posted December 18, 2018 Thank you @Gaurav and @skumar83 for you views. Both of you have got it right. I have once before seen similar flip in Faqa area with a fellow offroader. The main culprit is the Jeep's Center of gravity is very high due to the lift and no spacers to even out the lift. Sometimes people buy fully modded Jeeps but with no experience in handling such a ride. The more experienced people normally judge the person by this highly modded vehicle and accept people for drives beyond their capacity. Judging by the speed and the way he approached the ridge cutting it is evident that he does not have such experience. This further endorses the grading structure we have introduced for people to better understand the importance of joining their level drives. 7 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ren13 369 Report post Posted December 18, 2018 Wow that was something new to learn on the detailed views @Gaurav @skumar83 @Rahimdad 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mujtaba 182 Report post Posted December 18, 2018 The observation was indeed too close and well explained from both Gaurav and Shree don’t think they have left anything else to say 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rahimdad 8,542 Report post Posted January 15, 2019 Thanks to @Asif Hussain for this contribution. What went wrong here? VID-20190115-WA0020.mp4 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frederic 10,421 Report post Posted January 16, 2019 7 hours ago, Rahimdad said: Thanks to @Asif Hussain for this contribution. What went wrong here? VID-20190115-WA0020.mp4 Countersteering at high speed and the sand seemed very soft in that area (backside of the dune?) 4 1 "Go as far as you can see; once you get there, you'll be able to see further." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gaurav 14,020 Report post Posted January 16, 2019 3 hours ago, Frederic Nuyttens said: Countersteering at high speed and the sand seemed very soft in that area (backside of the dune?) Very good observation, any more guesses guys.....? 2 Let's root for each other & watch each other grow. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites