Popular Post M.Seidam Posted August 30, 2020 Popular Post Report Share Posted August 30, 2020 Dear passionate off roaders When I had my first absolute newbie couple weeks ago it was short cut by bad nose landing ( was entirely my fault and I know it ) . Thank God zero human injury and the Iron was repaired as brand new. Actually from that point the real story begins and I realized how important to see the things from different angles to analyse and to learn how to avoid various problems in the setting of off road dives .I searched the various resources online and I found what I was looking for in this respectful community. and now with all the support of all of you, especially @Gaurav who was the first who drove me to safety at the very beginning and to @Gaurav @Rahimdad and @Frederic whom I had the honour to drive under their leads where I got all support and help, I can proudly say that I got my first zero refusal/stuck after 4 drives in a row as a newbie including the absolute newbie. Special Thanks to @Chaitanya D my friend and colleague who spared no effort helping me find my current off road vehicle Xterra and all the tips along. I personally believe that off road drive has a unique learning curve climbing it requires time, patience, determination , awareness of the known common risks and problems and above all that sharing and transmitting what is available from knowledge in the scene either directly by witnessing it if possible ( situation might not allow at the scene like terrain condition , weather , and now covid19 time ) as safety comes on top of the list or indirectly by capturing pictures , clips ..etc for the stuck or refusal and how we deal with it . in carnity discussion I found about what went wrong in terms of off road accident or refusal or stuck and even wrong recovery techniques and discussion about it which is good to see mistakes of others or even own to learn and not to repeat. here I put the initiative and from our own drives how recovery either self or assisted is done by our expert leaders directly or under their direct supervision and I request every one if at all possible when we are not in motion to try take the chance to take some videos ( one hand cant clap ) from another angle so after each drive the one who didn't have the chance to see it live can at least see it here. discussion is open and I would appreciate the feedback from our leaders as always. Cheers and Drive Safe 4 1 15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Posted August 31, 2020 Report Share Posted August 31, 2020 Every time I see a tow rope getting tight on a sharp tug, it makes me wince. I've seen too many parts flying off cars and turning into projectiles. There was a video going around on whatsapp a couple of years ago showing the aftermath of where the rope broke and went through the windscreen and hit the guy in the face. It showed the guy rolling round on a hospital bed in pain with half of his jaw missing. I've seen a lot of bad accident videos but that one stuck with me. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Frederic Posted August 31, 2020 Popular Post Report Share Posted August 31, 2020 30 minutes ago, Barry said: Every time I see a tow rope getting tight on a sharp tug, it makes me wince. I've seen too many parts flying off cars and turning into projectiles. There was a video going around on whatsapp a couple of years ago showing the aftermath of where the rope broke and went through the windscreen and hit the guy in the face. It showed the guy rolling round on a hospital bed in pain with half of his jaw missing. I've seen a lot of bad accident videos but that one stuck with me. We all have seen the incidents and how bad it can go wrong if recoveries are not done in a proper (safe) way. There are a multitude of reasons for that: 1) Tugging too hard 2) rusted tow points 3) using poor quality shackles 4) using poor quality tow ropes instead of recovery ropes 5) Wrong angle etc... etc... etc.. HENCE we take recoveries very serious and educate others as much as possible about the potential dangers. 6 5 "Go as far as you can see; once you get there, you'll be able to see further." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Gaurav Posted August 31, 2020 Popular Post Report Share Posted August 31, 2020 27 minutes ago, Barry said: Every time I see a tow rope getting tight on a sharp tug, it makes me wince. I've seen too many parts flying off cars and turning into projectiles. There was a video going around on whatsapp a couple of years ago showing the aftermath of where the rope broke and went through the windscreen and hit the guy in the face. It showed the guy rolling round on a hospital bed in pain with half of his jaw missing. I've seen a lot of bad accident videos but that one stuck with me. We started using additional rope support on every soft/medium/hard tugs. It cost additional 30 seconds but safeguard everyone life and expensive damage. 8 2 Let's root for each other & watch each other grow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.Seidam Posted August 31, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2020 Thank you @Gaurav and @Frederic for the valuable comments and paying attention to the smallest detail regarding any rope recovery is very important in order to avoid or minimize the risk to the minimum and if occurs God forbidden to ensure damage is almost zero. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.Seidam Posted September 2, 2020 Author Report Share Posted September 2, 2020 In the recovery 4th one crest recover from the other side I couldn’t see off course but what I thought was this 👇( found it in you tube by Carnity 2018 ) 5 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frederic Posted September 2, 2020 Report Share Posted September 2, 2020 18 minutes ago, Mohamed Seidam said: In the recovery 4th one crest recover from the other side I couldn’t see off course but what I thought was this 👇( found it in you tube by Carnity 2018 ) Correct, that was the same technique i did on your fourth video (crest recovery). 4 1 1 "Go as far as you can see; once you get there, you'll be able to see further." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Frederic Posted September 2, 2020 Popular Post Report Share Posted September 2, 2020 From my very first Carnity drive in 2018: @Rahimdad recovering Srini his FJ Cruiser. 2018-10-13_08_45_12.mp4 8 2 "Go as far as you can see; once you get there, you'll be able to see further." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topgear Posted September 2, 2020 Report Share Posted September 2, 2020 @Mohamed Seidamthanks for starting this thread. I will upload a couple of clips that I managed to capture from a recent drive. 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.Seidam Posted September 2, 2020 Author Report Share Posted September 2, 2020 Thank you @topgear every one will appreciate that so to boost our knowledge when it comes live in desert 👍 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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