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Intermediate - LIWA 2020 Adventure Drive - 2 Dec 2020


Emmanuel

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I’m actually having second thoughts. For everyone’s safety, as it’s an intermediate level drive in Liwa, I think it’s wise to lower the maximum number of passengers per car to 2, and not to allow kids, as it’s too much responsibility in this extreme environment.
Thank you for your understanding @asifk

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Hi @Emmanuel - I understand but it would have been good if you had specified this at the initial stages. Now I will be left with no drive and a very disappointed family. I have put myself on the (already long) waitlist for the newbie and fewbie drives. 

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55 minutes ago, Emmanuel said:

Speaking of which... I'll add these few important topics that @Frederic and @Srikumar highlighted in their respective drive threads, as they also apply for intermediate

1) You need to make sure that your car is 100% in technical fit condition: recovering a broken vehicle in Liwa is an absolute enormous task which will take hours and in some cases we might have to just leave it behind. Please be aware of the long journey and the extreme stress your vehicle will undergo in this terrain. Get your vehicle FULLY inspected before joining this adventure. Make sure fluids, battery, spare wheel, and brakes are in optimal condition. If your vehicle already shows signs of slight overheating from regular Fewbie drives please do not join this drive. 

2) We will be driving in dunes which are more than 200m high and this also involves coming down steep slopes. If you struggle with fear of heights in Pink Rock or Fossil Rock, I would advise to think this through. Safety is our main focus but nevertheless we need people to stay calm and listen calmly to instructions as there is only little margin for human errors. 

3) More than anything, you need to be realistic in what your vehicle can do and choose the number of passengers wisely. If we see an underpowered vehicle with 4 adult persons inside and stuffed with camping gear, we will not allow you to join. This terrain will require a lot from your vehicle, and traveling light with minimum passengers will make sure your underpowered vehicle can survive this. 

 

Drive Preparation

1. Firstly, get lots and lots of rest the previous day on 1st Dec. The more the better as Liwa will not only challenge your vehicle but your mind as well. We would need your complete focus and fatigue due to less rest is the last thing that is needed on such a terrain.

2. Ensure that your 4x4 is well serviced recently and all the lubes and fluids are topped up

3. 20 Liter fuel jerry can. If you have any doubts, please post your query on the drive post and we will assist.

4. A full fuel tank at the meeting point. 

5. Spare tyre should be in goodworking condition. If not been used recently, ensure that you take it out and check the condition properly. Also ensure that you have the wrench that can be used to remove your tyre (if needed). In the past we have seen that people upgrade their tyres but still keep the the original wrench which is of no use to remove the upgraded tyre. So please ensure that your car has the right tool to remove the tyres (if needed).

6. Air compressor, recovery rope, soft shackles, proper shovel, flag, fire extinguisher, first aid kit are mandatory.

7. Fully charged radio (tuned to all Carnity Frequencies) with spare battery / radio unless you have a car charger for your radio. 

8. All traction controls, ABS and Air bags need to be switched off. If it requires pulling the fuse, please research before the drive or better still, post your queries on this drive post and we would assist. 

9. Car charger / battery pack for your mobile.

10. Plenty of water, approx 5 litre per person per day. 

11. Bring along your breakfast, lunch, snacks, etc in easy to eat packing. We shall be having breaks in between the drive.

12. Dry food, energy bar, cookies, nuts, crisp to munch while driving

13. Bring garbage bags along to carry your trash. Of course, littering in the desert is strictly prohibited.

Keep checking this list, as it might grow further in coming days. All the above points are Mandatory and your participation on the drive would be refused on the drive day by the trip lead if you fail to comply with the above.

Details of the exact meeting point will be updated on the Original Drive Post and Calendar shortly.

Thanks @Emmanuel for this update. Very detailed and valid points.

My concern is how  to turn off air bags from Prado. Is there anyone, who could help to identify those fuses ? Or is there another way ?

 

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9 hours ago, asifk said:

Hi @Emmanuel - I understand but it would have been good if you had specified this at the initial stages. Now I will be left with no drive and a very disappointed family. I have put myself on the (already long) waitlist for the newbie and fewbie drives. 

@asifk you're right, I should have highlighted this point from the beginning, apologies. To be honest, I thought it was obvious. When you will reach Moreeb area in Liwa (as I'm almost sure that you will find a place in another drive, more fitted for your family), you will understand why I am so reluctant to allow young children as passengers.

9 hours ago, Tero Vallas said:

My concern is how  to turn off air bags from Prado. Is there anyone, who could help to identify those fuses ? Or is there another way ?

@Tero Vallas removing the fuses might be your only option. I'm not sure about Prado. @Atif, @Nizam Deen, and other proud Prado owners, any idea?

9 hours ago, Craig Finlayson said:

Anyone staying down the night before and recommend accommodation?

@Craig Finlayson as you know, all affordable hotels are full. I will probably just sleep in my car, somewhere around.        

   

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@Tero Vallas im not sure how to remove the fuse champ. If you find please let me know as well. This is important information especially since you're going to be doing some crazy stuff... (me being jealous now) 😓

Pls let me know about the fuse i would be happy to hear more about this.

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2 hours ago, Emmanuel said:

 

@asifk you're right, I should have highlighted this point from the beginning, apologies. To be honest, I thought it was obvious. When you will reach Moreeb area in Liwa (as I'm almost sure that you will find a place in another drive, more fitted for your family), you will understand why I am so reluctant to allow young children as passengers.

@Tero Vallas removing the fuses might be your only option. I'm not sure about Prado. @Atif, @Nizam Deen, and other proud Prado owners, any idea?

@Craig Finlayson as you know, all affordable hotels are full. I will probably just sleep in my car, somewhere around.        

   

I have limited info on deactivating the airbags on the Prado. On one website the airbags fuse is common with the ignition fuse no. 36 that is present in the fuse box inside the cabin:

https://fuse-box.info/toyota/toyota-land-cruiser-prado-150-j150-2010-2018-fuses

I personally only switch off the TRC and VSC through the switches. 

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6 hours ago, Atif said:

I have limited info on deactivating the airbags on the Prado. On one website the airbags fuse is common with the ignition fuse no. 36 that is present in the fuse box inside the cabin:

https://fuse-box.info/toyota/toyota-land-cruiser-prado-150-j150-2010-2018-fuses

I personally only switch off the TRC and VSC through the switches. 

Thank you @Atif!

Yeas, I have done same by switching off TRC etc. 

Behind this fuse seems to be bunch of other systems: 

EFI ECU, C/OPN RLY, VSC ECU, air bag ECU, smart entry & start system, steering lock ECU

I wonder might this bring other challenges then, fuel injection (EFI) and C/OPN circuit ( Affects to fuel pump .. ?) for example.

I'll give a try and see... 

 

 

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