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Kill Switches for ABS and Airbag


Christopher Assal

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“ Oh boy let me understand the 4 wheelers then if I live I might think of more “ ... but it’s me 🤣

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5 minutes ago, M.Seidam said:

 

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26 minutes ago, Islam Soliman said:

I was actually disappointed with the setup.. didn’t realize that I have to get out of the car to connect the hoses to the 4 ports under each wheel well.. Lazyboy club needs to come up with a better fully automated solution 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Yes we need work on it @Islam Soliman

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9 minutes ago, M.Seidam said:

“ Oh boy let me understand the 4 wheelers then if I live I might think of more “ ... but it’s me 🤣

Now we are taking 🥸

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I can sharey simple experience.
I'm driving Jeep JL. 
In my first ever ride with other group I was advised to remove the fuse.
This was the most wrong thing I ever did. For sure my car got stuck. And since there is no fuse, the computer lost some information about what is going on.
It ended up no traction. And lost the 4 wheel. So it was only 2 wheel working. With even an alarm saying 4wheel service. So the car was saying bad words to me.
I was pulled out. And was escorted to the exist. Before moving out I had the fuse back. As soon as I reached the entry point. I checked the car the alarm was gone and the 4 wheel was back to function. 

Since that time I always use the standard bottom in the car to switch the traction control and the electronic traction control. And the car was very good.

I trust the engineering and the studies the factories made. So I use what they provide. If your car needs it, they will provide it. Else you don't need it.

Trust the factories and don't try to be smarter than years of studies and engineering. 😁

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I had a kil switch installed on my Y62 (2020) - It messed up completely the electronics, the car set itself in road mode and I got stuck after 200 meters into the desert. After switching off the engine, I switched off the kill switch so that I could change the settings in 4L and engage the Diff-Lock to get out of what would be normally a very easy soft patch but the car would not have it. it would simply do what it felt like, while I felt quite stupid (I most probably looked the par). Only after getting advice from @Ale Vallecchi to change for a random setting (I ended up in snow mode), the car ran like a charm again. Not saying the kill switch is not useful, it just does not work for me or I must learn what it does exactly to my car before I use it again. 

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1 minute ago, Luc Khaldoun said:

I had a kil switch installed on my Y62 (2020) - It messed up completely the electronics, the car set itself in road mode and I got stuck after 200 meters into the desert. After switching off the engine, I switched off the kill switch so that I could change the settings in 4L and engage the Diff-Lock to get out of what would be normally a very easy soft patch but the car would not have it. it would simply do what it felt like, while I felt quite stupid (I most probably looked the par). Only after getting advice from @Ale Vallecchi to change for a random setting (I ended up in snow mode), the car ran like a charm again. Not saying the kill switch is not useful, it just does not work for me or I must learn what it does exactly to my car before I use it again. 

This is what I'm talking about. 😎

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11 minutes ago, Luc Khaldoun said:

I had a kil switch installed on my Y62 (2020) - It messed up completely the electronics, the car set itself in road mode and I got stuck after 200 meters into the desert. After switching off the engine, I switched off the kill switch so that I could change the settings in 4L and engage the Diff-Lock to get out of what would be normally a very easy soft patch but the car would not have it. it would simply do what it felt like, while I felt quite stupid (I most probably looked the par). Only after getting advice from @Ale Vallecchi to change for a random setting (I ended up in snow mode), the car ran like a charm again. Not saying the kill switch is not useful, it just does not work for me or I must learn what it does exactly to my car before I use it again. 

Where was it installed on your car? Interested to know on the wiring.

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Dear friends 

Regarding this never ending and quite interesting topic among all off-roaders and from a humble own and other shared experience as well as knowledge from the internet including our lovely and interactive forum allow me please to express how do I understand it :

the electronic traction control with all of its evolution since invented came in the first place to assess the drivers on tarmac when the ground is slippery ( rain , snow , gravels .. etc ) especially during turning for smooth and controllable running of the wheels on ground like in AWD system despite its more of fuel consumption which is beyond the scope of my point.having said that here come the coupling of the ABS and traction control where the least resistant ( e.g patch of water under one wheel ) will receive less power than the other three to keep the others spinning and not to slip. Now the situation will be completely different when you are doing a sidy in inclination in a semi curve path on soft sand . In the later all the 4 wheels need to be kept spinning all time . Now if your traction control and ABS is activated and not off the engine will cut off the power via beaks to the least resistant encountering tire and this may lead to lethal fishtailing and eventually roll over at worst scenario.

if the vehicle is equipped by the manufacturer for full shut down of the stability control ( which I doubt due to civil disclaimer and safety ) that you can operate from the cockpit then it’s fine . Other wise two choices no third we are left with , either to pull the appropriate fuses or to press the kill switch. And both options has advantages and disadvantages.

while for some they have no choice than to pull fuses because there is no other way or because they don’t wana mess with the circuit by inappropriately installing kill switches . On the other hand  if the kill switch done correctly by experienced personnel with the particular vehicle then it’s more than fine.

Finally in either way the sequence how to operate it is extremely important. 
car off , keys out from ignition , fuse pull out or kill switch on , key in , ignition, switch on and the reverse sequence in the reverse order . If happens and you plug the fuse in or you press the kill switch off while the ignition is on then here where comes the mess and disorder ( personal experience ) 

tip : if you get stuck on soft sand try to crawl and wiggle while the all your fuses plugged in or your kill switch is off , it worked with my Xterra , worked with others in Pagero as example and I believe will work with you as well 😉

 

cheers 

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11 hours ago, Luc Khaldoun said:

Now, that's a good question. Why is it I feel dumb again 🤣

I am due to go to the garage tomorrow to learn more about it as it was installed only two weeks again. I will let you know by then

It is actually the high engine torque that got you stuck, you are used to drive on sand mode which limits the engine's torque on acceleration reducing wheel slippage that causes the wheel to sink. Check the below graph for your Y62.

One question, how much did it cost you for the kill switch?

 

 

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