@Veedooshee your calmness and ability to deliver prompt and useful instructions is a skill I want to learn from you. Thank you. Also, thanks a lot for posting this @M.Seidam  because it brings up a very important conversation around a topic that @Brette and I had that day and think might benefit a few people: Gearing Ratios Apologies in advance for the long post. @Frederic your input would be very appreciated as a seasoned manual Wrangler driver To begin, I drive a manual 201