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Thank you carnity team for organizing a wonderful drive, it was my first time driving and i enjoyed every moment, i felt very safe and relaxed and enjoyed the drive with you , thank you first of all to @Shamil my good friend who introducing me to the offroad culture and always motivated me, thanks mate could not have done it without you, special thanks to @Gaurav bhai , @Rahimdad bhai , @Srikumar and all other participants for making it a wonderful experience, would love to join you guys again soon, take care and have a good week .😃

Great review @Gaurav. It’s unfortunately a typical thing in UAE for businesses to call themselves experts while they just have some low paid number crunchers behind their desks that are ill-informed, non trained, and not properly managed. When you have plans of selling your car in the UAE, you’re entering a snakepit it seems. From the hundreds of people that call you on Dubizzle with stupid offers, scammers, fakers, and people just waisting your time, a genuine car selling website like Carswitch would be a great concept IF managed properly by a group of specialists that have the ease of mind of their customers as first priority. Your genuine review informs people, and that’s what the core and purpose of Carnity is all about: protecting the car enthusiast from dubious businesses and helping them to avoid the snake pit.

While I do understand the concept of such business and that they need to make money. But at least offer a proper service for the money that you are taking. The easiest way to sell a car is by lowering the price. You don't require a genius to understand that. What's important is to be fair to all the parties that are involved. I guess it just shows again to stay away from such dealers who have shallow knowledge and really don't bother at what price you sell the car as long as they get their commission.

Thank you all participants for making this a wonderful and memorable time...

Our newbies that joined today, and the potential newbies that will join the coming off-roading season, will get a taste of @Srikumar his great skills: From the detailed and complete briefing, to the overall smooth routing, everything was in its right place to give newbies the knowledge and confidence to get the first steps in the sand and allow them to further advance this great hobby in a professional and safe way. I am very proud to see Carnity as a whole growing year after year, not afraid of challenging itself or reinventing itself. It’s the way to success and all members will reap the benefits from that !

Congrats @Sri on your first official "Newbie Drive" which is a big feather for any Marshal cap to plan and lead absolute newbie drive, which is actually very difficult for many offroaders. You have nicely planned the route and chosen the perfect level at right time from beginning till the end, so that all newbies can learn and enjoy safely. You have lead an amazing newbie drive and tbh, I didn't corrected any route and after some time I become lazy and started thinking that I'm following Rahimdad lead. Well done buddy, we are very proud and fortunate to have you as a Marhsal who can think it through and see things differently from various perspective than just hitting the pedal to find his own way alone.

Using Carswitch has been a total waste of my time, money, hassle, email and storage space. Carswitch Review - TOTALLY DISAPPOINTING. There has been another thread here where a lot of people discussed and debated if Carswitch is real or scam or not, so I thought of testing this new car selling service myself while selling my Range Rover to write a detailed review on Carswitch to help other car owners. Read my full review with 10 reasons before thinking of using Carswitch.com by yourself, so your expectations are set to reality than what they advertise and promote themselves as No 1. car selling site in Dubai. First they charge 100 Dhs (earlier 300 Dhs) to come and take pictures and list your car in Carswitch.com. Then Carswitch charges below commission if they can sell your car at the value you expect: Sound interesting (only this point). And I'm sure because of this kicker plenty of car owners must be falling in the trap, I will explain it soon. Carswitch Commission Structure 2,100 AED for less than 50,000 car value 2,625 AED for 50,000 - 89,000 car value 3,150 AED for 90,000 and above car value Condition: If you overprice the car to add commission then you also need to change price in other classified sites. So I decided to list my car with carswitch on 20, Aug 2019: 2012 Range Rover Vogue Supercharged Autobiography Kit from dealer GCC Spec, Full options Full Service History from Al Tayer Odometer: 70,750 kms Expecting 89,000 AED, while dealers are advertising similar car with low kms for 110K and no private seller was selling similar car with low kms at the time of advertising. Carswitch was very effective in pre-sales follow up and called me 3 times to remind and agree on time, to list the car. Finally Carswitch listed my car on 20th Aug 2019 for 89,000 Dhs, but with a with a wrong title. Sent a mail to correct the title but no one replied till 8 days. (yeah, lost 8 days). Copy to various other email as well and title got changed, but now with another mistake. After couple of more emails, finally correct title has been displayed with little restriction. WRONG TITLE CORRECT TITLE AFTER 8 DAYS Here are my reasons for calling Carswitch.com totally disappointing for car sellers: FIRST If they are car experts, then how can they mess up between names/editions that come with a price difference of 100K when new? Range Rover Sport Range Rover HSE Range Rover Vogue Range Rover Vogue Supercharged Range Rover Autobiography SECOND After listing the car and accepting the money, they didn't answer the email for 8 days, very bad customer service. THIRD As soon as they listed the car with agreed amount of 89,000 I started getting the recommended price sms, emails and backend notifications to reduce the price to 74,000 as that's the right market price - I am not sure either they were quoting me for wrong Range Rover or they love to brainwash people, so I'd reduce fast and they'd make a sale to get their commission. Asking seller to reduce 15,000 (17%) from the asking price within 1 day of listing is quite a hit for any car seller, who invested time and money so they can competently fetch the right buyers at fair market price. Totally Disappointing. FOURTH On the day I listed my car with Carswitch, the back-end was showing instant cash offer of 65,000 dhs. After two weeks I reduced to 85,000 to be in line with other used car sites then backend started showing me 56,000 dhs. So that means their instant cash offer is automatically synced with whatever you ask. They will slash 24-29K of your listing price without using any common sense or logic of car depreciation. So this is basically Sellanycar, Sellcargetcash cloned site but in disguise. Totally Disappointing. FIFTH All Google and network adverts they were running were using a wrong title (Vogue instead of Vogue Supercharged) and/or displaying my car with wrong league of competition. Wasting their own money with lack of intelligence or car details. Why would anyone click on a 85K car if a 67K is there but it's a Sport instead of a Vogue Supercharged ? Totally different animal and year. Good idea of fetching customers through Google ads, but applied ineffectively. SIXTH If they are charging 2600dhs commission to run Google ads, then we can also do this by ourselves and get buyers, and only show one car to increase the chances than 3 in a carousel. Probably we will get good potential buyers in 1000dhs ad-spend if you know how to target Facebook and Google advertising with YouTube tutorial in less than an hour and keep on tweaking ad daily. Again its advertised with wrong title in many places. Being a Vogue, it's overpriced. Being a Vogue Supercharged, very well priced. SEVENTH Few places ads were running without a title even, and when anyone click on the page it goes nowhere. Clicking on above Vuukle advert by Carswitch lead to site can't be reached. https://cat.fr.eu.criteo.com/delivery/ckn.php?cppv=3&cpp=Hb00-FNR-lyMj7QkOlhUWeKm-bSOEXqmAsR349XGq3r5WNdKp6qPMf96mxNmF49hFY_s5gkPMyJc5p5fCfLL3bvnaBj8NpxTV_b8otnwrZ1syUy0K3hNlP77qyb5hI4vzDusBBygYaTmwawLm7JGvkeP6UV0fFVqvb8Pi9nDJMHhXTqdqkQGVOa_c6RW5qtmtuUhZec7O-GLzGJJIoR5bLqZszmaYnLnlqXsefwwqH0Nf4BbnnUMscBsd-CQABiw8pysoxO_NMyUvuHg-YDGduhdRylY-1BKq7qEaNsk-IfvXo6LyPWQcjYr5WABGJHtzmeaJR7-JeXvQjuiBQcG2SKYUYT4tcyTPjCsoP6MreX4Uh1dauI4y3OshBz6SjmhjQEa3g&maxdest=https%3A%2F%2Fcarswitch.com%2Fdubai%2Fused-car%2FRange-Rover%2FVogue%2F2012%2F145739-149420%3Futm_source%3Dcriteo%26utm_medium%3Dretargeting%26utm_campaign%3Dlowerfunnel EIGHTH After all this ad-spend and showing in their website they fetched 273 views in 1 month, zero calls and zero viewing. I placed same advert in Carnity that has fetched 579 views and 5 calls and 2 viewing from original buyer. I also placed an ad with Dubizzle, Dubicar, Yzer, Yallamotors etc. NINTH: Their website has no relevant sub category as Vogue, let alone Supercharged, so your ad will always show with low cost, not rightly competing cars when searching with top level car name. So if you have a special type of car or spec, you will lose out even more. TENTH: Their website interface doesn't allow owners to edit much of the details and you are at the mercy of back-end operators who don't answer emails and cause delays in selling your car. That's how it took me 8 days to change to correct title to: Range Rover Vogue Supercharged. Hope this review helps you to save some money and time in false expectations of fetching you the best value - false advertising, when from day 1 till day 25 they were pestering me to reduce price several times and brainwashing me by showing low price cars. If you don't know the real value of your car, spec, age and km, you might fall in this trap and sell it for low. Finally I sold my "Range Rover Vogue Supercharged for 83,000 AED on 18 Sep 2019. I had two close offers, one was 82K with a bank loan from Carnity advert and 83K cash buyer from Dubizzle.

Guys, it was absolutely amazing how well-organized and safe the whole trip was, had a great time. @Gaurav thanks for all the tips and guidances through out the trip and the sandwiches. @Rahimdad you're a very positive personality and it was a pleasure to meet you–thanks for the parantas. @Syed Ahmed thanks for coming back to the rescue–you're a star. @Roshan Abraham you made it through like a champ. Thanks @Frederic @AKR @shadow79 @Emil for your support. @Srikumar We need to have an another session arranged soon I know a lot newbies who could join the next trip. Cheers everyone. Have great weekend.

Trip Report - It was a beautiful start to a Friday, with a nice relaxing Newbie Drive with your buddies as well as the Absolute Newbies. Everyone reached on time which was much appreciated. We had 3 Absolute Newbies in our convoy, @tjsingh @Syed Ahmed and the other @Roshan Abraham. After the detailed brief, we headed to the deflation point where we assigned the convoy numbers. @Gaurav was my second lead. A big shout out to him for correcting the route wherever required to ensure that everyone had a smooth path. All 3 newbies closely followed his track and they all managed exceptionally well. @Frederic was positioned right behind the newbies to assist them when needed. @AKR and @Emil followed with @Rahimdad and @shadow79 managing the sweep duties. We started with tracks and some small dunes where we did some sideys. Though a couple of refusals, everyone did well which gave me the confidence to up the level as we were approaching the medium size dunes. The real fun started at the base of pink rocks where everyone made an attempt going up Pink Rock. Even the Newbies made an attempt with @Gaurav and @Rahimdad sitting alongside them. If it was not enough doing it in their own cars, we all took turns with other's cars. After close to an hour of playing we exited out to 2nd December where we all sat down for our breakfast. After saying goodbye to Newbies, Rahim Bhai suggested a quick spin till Big Fall. He found some amazing virgin rolling dunes and we were treated to an absolute smooth drive, Rahim Bhai style. During this session, I was driving behind @AKR, and for the first time I could feel that he was in sync with his car and was driving with lot of confidence. Overall a wonderful day and drive. Big thank you to everyone that supported the drive and especially to the senior members @Gaurav @Rahimdad @Frederic @shadow79 to back me up.

I abuse Chinese tires on my work car which is mostly driven in the beaten paths of industrial area's so after almost 4th year they become prone to punctures and as far as sound is concerned I don't car as long as it rolls

With the weather getting better with each upcoming week, the mood is set for an Absolute Newbie Drive. However if no absolute newbies sign up we might up the level depending on the convoy signed up. This time we will drive in Pink Rock area that offers perfect opportunity to learn in very safe and easy tracks to medium rolling dunes. Looking for an easy relaxing drive for everyone with plenty of opportunities to learn and grow, hill climb, and ridge riding. Newbies and Fewbies will have a great chance to see and learn the real fun that off-roading offers in a very safe and organized environment. Since timing will be crucial I request everyone to be on time. When: 20 September 2019 Meeting time: 5:00 AM, the convoy will move at sharp 5:15 AM Where: Tawi Nazwa Shops GPS Coordinate: https://goo.gl/maps/4U9z5Q9HdesX3UU59 Level: Absolute Newbie, Newbie, and Fewbie Type of Car: Any proper 4x4 with front and back tow hooks and 10 inches of ground clearance. Plan: Drive, train and enjoy till about 9:30 AM What to bring along: Snacks - whatever you like with little extra to share, water, liquids, smiles, stories, enthusiasm and willingness to learn. Approximate finish time: 9:30 AM Please RSVP the below calendar event

Thank you @Srikumar for putting the whole drive together, well planned and very well executed. Thank you to @Gaurav, @Srikumar, @Frederic, @AKR for supporting the second half. Well done to @tjsingh, @Syed Ahmed and @Roshan Abraham for your enthusiasm and very level headed approach. Kindly provide feedback to help us improve on the below link.

@Gaurav i am afraid i cant attend today unfortunately. Relatives came from abroad so have to spend Friday with them. Hope to see you all guys again soon! I have withdrawn from the event. Sorry for lat min notice.

Yup there is. So will see you tomorrow.

All newbie, fewbie and experts please make sure your car has front and back tow-hooks in properly mounted and ready to use condition, because w/o the tow hook all the knowledge, experience, recovery gears are useless to get you out from simplest of a stuck. Welcome Waseem to Carnity and its offroad club, finally you made it. Congrats bro on your new desert toy, looking fwd to see it in action.

Hi TJ, I am sure Nissan Patrol would have one in the front as well. If needed you can send pictures and we can guide. We need tow hooks in the front and back to help recover you when needed.

Hi sri this is waseem , shamils friend, have come for many drives with him before, i have a jeep wrangler and yes its equipped with recovery points, will see u guys tomorrow, very excited for the drive😀

I've got a tow bar on back of my car (Nissan Patrol 2007 - VTC), that should do the job. Not sure if it has any recovery points in the front.

if it was mine i wouldn't toss that engine in a car but glass case it and keep it safe only for looking...

@tjsingh @Syed Ahmed please ensure that you have recovery points both in the front and back of your car. In case of any doubts, please do let us know.

@Syed Ahmed welcome to Carnity and the Offroad Club. Look forward to seeing you on Friday. In meanwhile, could you please advise which 4x4 you are driving?

Hope to join this drive as it would be a good start after a long break !

OK guys, update on the issue: Oil sensor wiring got disconnected so rewire and solder it again and engine oil light flickering is completely gone now.