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I never seen a LWB 3.5 Pajero made it to the top. SWB can but LWB max i saw was @Mehmet Volga climbing %85-90 of it.

Faya is a very bumpy climb, and if you hit one or two nasty ones during the climb, your suspension doesn’t have time to recover from that properly. Take into account that the LWB Pajero is also quite heavy so this amplifies the “galloping” effect even more. Scaling tall hill climbs is not its speciality given the average hp to weight ratio. Having said that, with the right skills of taking a good line, wiggling the steering wheel a bit, and optimizing your gear to keep it in its sweet spot, it will take you quite far for a stock 4x4.

@Salarios Congratulations Maan. Very well deserved!

Yes I’ll be doing the Friday drive only, you can remove me here thanks.

Dear Team, We have a nice signup this week and i just wanted to inform you guys to make sure you have all items onboard for Friday's drive: 1) Offroad flag 2) Shovel 3) Pressure gauge / deflator 4) Compressor (gas station nearby has no compressor) 5) Radio with the Carnity frequencies programmed. Please make sure you are equipped with above items, otherwise we won't be able to allow you on the drive. If you have any questions in particular about where to buy, which model, please have a look at below advice: @Badar Tariq @Matthew Ticehurst @frederic demolder @syed salman raza @Larry Cadden @Dodi Syahdar @rajeshkumar rathod @Carlos Fernandez @Harold Roberts @Alphin Aloor

Thank you @Mohamed Seidam @Frederic @sertac for the insight. So limitations exists in the car and the driver and I need to work on the latter by doing more drives and then may be the limitation of the car may not exist 😀

I believe that this is an amazing platform for off roading. Proper chasis underneath, solid axle, diff lock. Sometimes companies offers one engine at the beginning and another options follow later on. If they put the 3.5 on this than we will have a new champ on the city. I guess 3.5 Nissan engine is 306hp. With a front bumper + skid plate you will have a off road ready machine. I hope this is not me being optimistic. I hope to see that 3.5 under the hood by next year model.

Ok. When I opened calendar normally from my mobile, there was not visible that normal button to join. Maybe rush hour fail in system. HI, @Chaitanya D, this is my 2nd drive option.

Hi @sri ganesh regarding feya climb . I have seen raptors not able to bring it to top while other less powered vehicle could , regardless , climbing tall dunes like feya entails practice with your own known vehicle so sooner or later you will find the way how to do it . What most important is to do it safely always. I have to admit that I had my own fear first time I did it and let go the gas .trick is you should build up the momentum and keep it either from the beginning or half way. Depends on your vehicle power and your approach ( you can reach it from middle straight up or riding the ridge up , this one slightly comes in later level maybe ) wish you best and safe drive 👍

Congratulations @Lorenzo Candelpergher, @Janarthan and @Luca Palanca Falsini for successfully completing the first session of leaders lead with flying colors. As you all have learned the basics first and demonstrated a perfect way to lead an independent drive in the desert, now it's your chance to work on the routing and planning skills. You will be learning the basics of leading the convoy in the desert in three different steps: Advance sand reading, plan your lead, plan your exits. Use of navigational software for selecting the right course of path. How to systematically scale the lead for all the cars in the convoy. In this second session of leaders lead you will be leading with the help of off-road navigation app or device. You can choose any device or app (motionx, gaia, mytrail etc) and mark these basic points and you will be required to reach any one or few of them: Entry and Exit Solar Park Al Qudra Desert Opp Bab Al Shams Mark long range playable dunes Mark pylon tracks, cycle tracks Mark as many sabka, flat track or easy exits in case of emergency Mark fencing or restricted area Mark technical dunes P.S. I will personally check each of your device to verify and help you further. Approximate Area Perimeter Drive Details Level: Selected Advance and Above When: 16 Jan 2021, Saturday Meeting time: 7:00 AM, (Sharp, without any exceptions) Meeting Point: hhttps://goo.gl/maps/7A63kBQawFt72xRM6 Solar Park Type of Car: Any proper 4x4 with front and back tow hooks and 8-10 inches of ground clearance. Approximate finish time: 11:00 AM Please RSVP on the below calendar:

@Francois Germishuys and @Ahab Shamaa thanks for informing. Would have been great to ride with you as I was excited too considering it was the first time we would drive together at IM ( great to see how you both have been driving and progressing with cheers), but I am happy you both have a confirmed full day drive on Friday. Have fun, see you soon Waitlist - First drive 1. Nabil 2. Mukundan Wait List - 2nd drive 1. Muhammad Kashaf razaq 2. Tero

Hello Doc @Chaitanya D, Please remove my name from the WL. I’m only driving on Friday. Thanks, and see you next time 😀

Congratulations @MUHAMMAD Kashif RAZZAQ

Congratulations @Danish Mohammad

Congratulations @Salarios

Rajendran Here, Please share your vehicle details - Mitsubishi Pajero- 2016- Silver- 4 Door Do you have any prior off-road experience? - No Confirm your vehicle has front and rear tow hooks / eyelets. Yes Confirmed Confirm your vehicle has minimum of 8 Inches of ground clearance.- Yes Confirmed Confirm that you have watched this "Absolute Newbie Briefing Video" - Yes Confirmed

@Goutam Congratulations!

@Danish Mohammad Congratulations!

@MUHAMMAD Kashif RAZZAQ Congratulations!

I think the Prado guy was distracted by his girlfriend trying to feed him grapes.

Waitlist - First drive 1. Nabil 2. Mukundan 3. Francois ( But I think you got a confirmed drive with Ale) Wait List - 2nd drive 1. Ahab Shamaa 2. Muhammad Kashaf Razaq 3. Tero

Yes confirm! Thank you

I think the real limitation specific for feya is the three to 4 nasty bumps in the beginning and no matter how stiff were your suspension and your vehicle power are , the only way to reach the top is the driver input through his skills as previously @Frederic noted. for me I found riding the ridge from either side to top is less bumpy however it needs careful balance and keeping momentum as if you leave the gas paddle once know that you need to exit on either sides and try again.

As @Soumya Saklani just left the RSVP, so @kolinrrj you have been added to this Absolute Newbie Drive. Please confirm. Hi @Ganesan Kathirvel @Shehzada Umer Naseer @Rowi Elsaid @William Fernandes @Mobeen Anwar @Junaid120120 @Sandeep Subhash @Rajendran D @Natarajan @Ahmad Shaker @Trekado @kolinrrj For your first drive, I will be carrying the spare radios with Carnity frequency for everyone. Please get the remaining items mentioned above in the drive post.

@sri ganesh you almost did it bro. unlike my 2006 LWB pajero baby elephant, after 2 bumps RPM went -ve. I can see I have to spend alot on my suspensions and tires to be able to drive in advance level, or the ideal choice would be to go for some SWB ride. but meanwhile, I will keep surfing on it and will try to learn from all the experts like you.. Good Luck.✌️

2015 Mitsubishi Pajero little experience Front and rear tow hooks Yes 8 inches of ground clearance Yes Briefing video Yes Thanks,

@Frederic confirm all item mentioned in the list available with me. Please advise frequency to be used

fingers crossed ✌️. lets hope for the best.

Hi This is Ganesan, My Vehicle is Jeep Wrangler 2013 model, No prior off-road experience, Yes, my jeep has front and back hooks, ground clearance yes, its more than that as it has lift kit. watched once, will have look once again :), look forward to meet every one.

Thank you for leading the nice drive @Vanessa8580, @Nivin and the entire convoy, it was an amazing drive and many lessons learnt and new insights into what my car (and I) can do. With the attempt to scale Faya on Pajero 3.5 LWB, though did not complete this time, I was happy to the extent the car let me push it, I felt I was galloping on a horse and reminded me of the Liwa drive up the Moreeb. I thoroughly enjoyed driving in the bowls and the technical dunes as well the highways during the commute Looking forward to my next drive and i also have a lot of questions Is it just the Pajeros or others also experienced the galloping effect in the seat when driving up the Faya dune? is it to be expected and good or does it have an effect on why the pajero, suspension setup on it perhaps, could not keep up the momentum to scale the tall dunes? It did scare me a bit and I may have let go gas pedal for a second and hit on it back when i realised how soon it affected the momentum and i decelerated so quickly when scaling the dune and I "may have felt" a have positive effect of lower resistance when i started accelerating back not sure how, not before i found myself not moving any further and had come back straight down. The second attempt I did not let go the gas and had not better levels.

The 2021 Xterra in my opinion is by all means incomparable to the previous rugged one ( till 2015 ) for what we do at least . Regardless of all other variables , the new one weigh slightly even heavier than my X with 2.5 cc engine while the rugged one about 2 ton with 4.0 cc V6 engine that generate almost 261HP . this segment of vehicle that are capable of off-roading in its stock form are slowly slowly fading away 😔

This one is extremely common for newbies or amateur offroaders and we have seen many similar side flips and roll-over, the key culprit here are below two reasons: Follow the line of car in front has taken, as precisely as possible. If you slip down, then call it a refusal and exit safely to circle to make a second attempt. Fighting with gravity when you missed the line is the key mistake that many new offroaders make and they will only learn to perfect the line with continuous experience. Soft sand, tire pressure, leaving gas all come secondary and play very marginal role to save or worsen the situation.

Hey Doc @Chaitanya D, I signed up for Ale's Friday drive first, and then came here and signed up for the WL as a second drive. This will be my first intermediate drive ever if it makes it any better

Congrats @Danish Mohammad!!

An enormous THANK YOU you to the amazing Carnity team and community. I look forward to passing on the knowledge which I learned from you. The "Monster" and I are eagerly looking forward to seeing you all on the next drive

Woohoo! @MUHAMMAD Kashif RAZZAQ! I’m very happy for you; well done 😀 A big kudos also goes out to your loyal and persistent co-pilot. Your son is learning so much on these drives, that once he starts off-road driving, he’ll be placed in the advanced level immediately 😀 You’re starting to understand how to get the most out of your “Yellow Beast”, and I believe that she’s rewarding you by helping develop you a solid driving style. @Gaurav, I believe Muhammad should be classified as ‘Fashionable Intermediate’ as he makes every effort to vary his off-road outfits, and most importantly tries to match outfits with his handsome son 😀 I’m looking forward to driving with you in this new level my friend!

Drive report It was quite chilly this morning and the heavy wind made it even feel colder than it was. I was happy to have my hoodie en my scarf with me and I had my seat warmers on in the car .... Once everyone arrived and deflated, I did a quick briefing and we started to move. I explained in my briefing that we were going to do some technical terrain first, then a few kilometers on a dirt track before we would reach Faya. We had no issues at all in Suweydan and could keep a good pace so we reached Faya after 1 hour. Luckily it was very quiet at Faya so everyone had a turn to try and make it all the way up from the front. @Salarios @Yusuf Esaf @AlexPol @Jack Thomas @Nivin @Vineeth John Joseph @Karthik Krishnakumar and even @Jon M with the Montero Sport made it up ! He was very impressed with his car and he had a smile from 1 ear to the other !! The 3 Pajero's all had a try but couldn't make it and @Ranjan Das missed a few horses I'm afraid or maybe it was the very heavy tyres on his car, he was a bit disappointed he couldn't make it up but he will make it one day .... After a while, we saw @sertac convoy approaching so we made space and moved on to the bowls behind Faya. It was getting a little more busy in the area with a lot of different other convoys so we had to be careful. Everyone drove very well in and out the bowls and we didn't have any mayor issue just a few refusals which could be handled very easily. After last week's drive with a lot of shoveling, I didn't have to take out my shovel this week ! Thank you @Nivin and @Salarios for all your guidance over the radio, I was lucky to have such good support. I think everyone had a lot of fun, I sure did have a lot of fun, and I hope to see everyone again very soon .....

Congratulations @MUHAMMAD Kashif RAZZAQ for reaching the Intermediate Level with Carnity Offroad Club. Looking forward to seeing you growing further and helping others to learn the art of offroading in a safe environment. Please make sure your Carnity user profile is always updated with all the latest Emergency contact details. P.S. Trip lead might deny your participation if you don't have required off-road gear. INTERMEDIATE Drives Attended (Indicative) Minimum 10 drives are required within last 6 months for Intermediate promotion. (Drives can be a mix of Newbie, Fewbie (50%) and Fewbie plus, depending on your adaptability, learning progress and Marshal’s feedback) What you'll learn Basic GPS and navigational skills Basic tow rope and winch recoveries Extreme side sloping and long hill climb Tall dunes ridge riding and criss crossing Precise control over technical dunes Fast pace desert driving Skills required Adventurous and thrill seeker but in a safe manner Level headed under stressful situations Responsible, dependable and accountable Car Worthiness Capable 4x4 vehicle with low range gearing Suitable approach and departure angle High profile tires Off-road gear required Safety flag, tire deflator, tire pressure gauge, shovel, fire extinguisher, medical kit, radio (walkie-talkie), air compressor, tool kit, rated recovery rope and 2 rated shackles, GPS. Drive teamwork Manage center forward position with Trip Lead’s permission Learn/assist recoveries under Trip Lead’s supervision Re-route convoy and coordination, when needed Learn to lead small portion of Intermediate drive under Marshal supervision Drive Joining Join Newbie, Fewbie, Intermediate and Exploration drives only Forum participation Active participation on the forum Share drive experience + feedback Share drive pictures in the gallery Post trip report after the drive

Evening Ladies & Gents - quick update I put the rig through the tiniest bumps in the world and it held up - time to put it through some heavier bumps after a few modifications tomorrow! Check the results out below! I also figured out how to get better angles! Anyway enjoy!

Thank you for the kind words Rizwan! Good luck to you!

Thanks alot Gaurav, Got it, this is GCC specs anyways and dont seem to be lowered previously by anyone. I also need small help on the walkie talkie. How do I confirm that the one I have meet minimum specs for communication in this trip.

Ok noted & done thanks

Congrats @MUHAMMAD Kashif RAZZAQ indeed, my digging skills were honed on your Explorer but you always had the potential and the fact you did so well in that vehicle was a sign of things to come. Congratulations buddy. Well done.

Well deserved @Goutam, congratulations. Your real lessons in off-roading start now.

Congratulations @Goutam! Well deserved 😀 With Intermediate level, you can't have zip ties on your bumper though 🤣 I hope your new bumper is in. Looking forward to driving with you and your handsome young co-pilot!

@Goutam congrats for a well deserved promotion.

Congratulations

For seeing in front of your car radio isn't needed. He could have simply left gas. Either red car is an Absolute Newbie or in stage of denial thinking that 6000 hp wrangler can come out of its own.

Well said @Mohamed Seidam. That's my opinion about the danger lf this approach.