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Couldn't have summarised it any better 🤣

Can’t do this with a JL 😎 To be honest I haven’t actually camped in it yet I just have all the stuff, but it makes a full size double bed in the back, and I’ll just pile all the stuff in the back seat when camping I guess, I’ll let you know how it goes when I do 😂😂

Chimney is waiting for you on the other side - go for it. 👍😀 And please pack your lunch, dinner and next day Bfast as well - most important lesson I learned post last leaders lead - @Gaurav is a passionate trainer who never comes with his watch on these sessions 😀😀 have fun.

We request every member that joins this drive to go through the below information and strictly follow these guidelines, etiquettes and responsibilities. MUST READ AND COMPLY Offroad Flag Guideline Two Way Radio Guideline Off road Driving Etiquette's Emergency details for all off-roaders Off Road Driving - Roles & Responsibilities DRIVE DETAILS Level: Fewbie and above When: 8 March 2023, Wednesday Meeting time: 3:30 PM - Sharp (Without any exceptions) Meeting Point: Murqquab https://maps.app.goo.gl/rzMxpZxUBE7PeHZD6 Action Plan: A last minute, surprise desert drive, with a 2-hour time cap, in an area within Dubai's emirate, where we'll be looking for a relatively new track. There will be a mix of faster and technical driving, with an exit point in mind that, if all goes well, we may extend further. Perfect for a mid-week break on the sand. Approximate finish time: 06:00 PM Type of Car: Any proper 4x4 with front and back tow hooks and 8-10 inches of ground clearance. What to bring along: Loads of water, snacks (for yourself), smiles, enthusiasm and willingness to learn. Mandatory off-road gears: Tire deflator, tire pressure gauge, compressor, walkie-talkie radio, off-road flag, shovel, first-aid kit and fire extinguisher. LIMITED SPOTS AVAILABLE This drive is limited to 8 cars only. RSVP will close on Wednesday - 12 PM. If the RSVP is full, you can add your name to the waitlist, once anyone drops, you will be moved to the RSVP list. RSVP will close a day prior to preparing a convoy list. Latecomers will be returned back - Without any exceptions. Members without RSVP will be returned back - Without any exceptions. Please withdraw your RSVP, if you aren't joining, so your spot can be taken by others. Repeated no-show members after RSVP will have their account suspended for a month. PLEASE RSVP ON THE CALENDAR

Dear Desertnauts Quick facts about tomorrow's surprise drive. Meeting point will be updated at 9:00 AM. Please look for it here. We'll line up as follows: @Jessica Lambert in Second Lead @Stumpy Paj at #3 @Bravoecho at #4 @Anoop Nair in the Center @Pranjal Varsani1 at #6 @Zubair at #7 @Krishna R at #8, and @Pacific in Sweep. Please reach the meeting point a little before the scheduled time. We'll pick the radio channel on the spot. Looking forward to seeing you tomorrow. Have a nice evening.

It’s time guys , these three sessions will take a place for life memory and you will see things differently, although for @Davie Chase and @Looper I am sure you are pretty ready to answer all the mysteries . Truth is .. no I won’t spoil it you will feel it deep touching the passion in ppl like you guys whom I drove with many times and I was always surprised by your knowledge, development and willingness to enjoy and help always … good luck 🤞

Congratulations @Looper and @Davie Chase.. enjoy the ride 💥😜

Congratulations @Looper and @Davie Chase I have no doubts you guys will do great Good luck! I’m sure you guys wont need it. Enjoy

Congratulations @Looper and @Davie Chase 🙂

No time for looping @Looper keep moving and dont push much. Congratulations for you and @Davie Chase

Congrats @Sam K looking forward to see you on an Int drive sometime soon 👍👍

Congratulations @Sam K!! 👏👏

Amazing progress Sam. All the best and hope to drive with you again soon. Though at this rate you'll be marshalling my next drives. 😀

Well done @Sam K….really well deserved mate!!

Congratulations @Sam K!!! Fantastic and enjoy the thrill of this level

well done @Sam K!!! enjoy the new level.

Congratulations @Sam K for reaching the Intermediate Level with Carnity Offroad Club. Looking forward to seeing you growing further and helping others to learn the art of offroading in a safe environment. Please make sure your Carnity user profile is always updated with all the latest Emergency contact details. P.S. Trip lead might deny your participation if you don't have required off-road gear. INTERMEDIATE Drives Attended (Indicative) Minimum 10 Fewbie Plus drives are required within last 6 months for Intermediate promotion. What you'll learn Basic GPS and navigational skills Basic tow rope and winch recoveries Extreme side sloping and long hill climb Tall dunes ridge riding and criss crossing Precise control over technical dunes Fast pace desert driving Clear radio communication skills Advance recovery skills Self recover from dune crest Soft sand recovery Pop-out fixing Skills required Adventurous and thrill seeker but in a safe manner Level headed under stressful situations Responsible, dependable and accountable Car Worthiness Capable 4x4 vehicle with low range gearing Suitable approach and departure angle High profile tires Off-road gear required Safety flag, tire deflator, tire pressure gauge, shovel, fire extinguisher, medical kit, radio (walkie-talkie), air compressor, tool kit, rated recovery rope and 2 rated shackles, GPS. Drive teamwork Manage center forward position with Trip Lead’s permission Learn/assist recoveries under Trip Lead’s supervision Re-route convoy and coordination, when needed Learn to lead small portion of Intermediate drive under Marshal supervision Drive Joining Join Newbie, Fewbie, Intermediate and Exploration drives only Forum participation Active participation on the forum Share drive experience + feedback Share drive pictures in the gallery Post trip report after the drive

Leading a desert drive is the most amazing experience to have, where you can combine fun, freedom, creativity, strategic thinking and survival skills all at once. Leaders lead is the drive where selected Advisors will learn to lead under close guidance. Backed with the right techniques, experience and supervision so that you can learn the art of leading with peace of mind without any fear or pressure. You will be learning the basics of leading in the desert in three different sessions: Advance sand reading, plan your lead, plan your exits. Use navigational software for selecting the right course of the path. How to plan and scale the lead and recoveries in the most grueling terrain. Level: Selective Advisors only - @Looper and @Davie Chase When: 11 March 2023, Saturday Meeting time: 2:00 PM, (Sharp, without any exceptions) Meeting Point: Al Lisaili - https://goo.gl/maps/UDzJ7FKT2Aq5HcyFA Type of Car: Any proper 4x4 with front and back tow hooks and 8-10 inches of ground clearance. Approximate finish time: 6:00 PM Please RSVP on the below calendar:

@Misha Puskar i will agree with @Benjamin. But if you have plan for bigger you can step up. I have kumho 285/70/17 AT. Good for desert. Arent expensive, means sub 3k.

Hi @Misha Puskar Nice car! In my personal opinion it might be a good idea to have a look at the used car & accessories market. The reason for this is because I was faced with a similar issue when I found my thread was worn through on my old sport trim tires. Usually, you can find stock all-terrains from different JL-JK trim Jeeps from people who bought brand new cars and instantly switch to a larger tire or a different brand. You shouldn't have to worry about the difference between JL-JK wheels as both of them should fit onto the JK, this way might be cheaper that to buying 4 new tires much like how it was for me at the time. Also considering they are OEM parts off newer/older jeeps you shouldn't have to worry about petrol consumption increase as much. However, keep in mind changing your tire from road to all terrain will give on-road changes and may slightly increase your fuel consumption not by a massive amount though. P.S keep away from mud terrain tires if they end up being an option.

Congratulations @Sam K, well done!

@Looper and @Davie Chase - you guys floored it! All the very best!

Hi @Misha Puskar what’s the rim size you have? Sahara in JL is with 18 inch, am not sure about JK. This is a limiting element for JL as All Terrain options are limited with 18 inch above a particular size. JK in general I understand is okay to go upto 31 inch tyre without any challenge or need for lift etc. Most ppl here prefer Geolandar but heard some issues in new model with side wall. I have BF Goodrich AT2 and love them though a bit agressive looking(not wide but aggressive thread) and not smoothest on road. There are some threads where ppl mentioned about good experience with Michelin as well. If you choose the right size upto 285/17, generally won’t be an easy issue in JK. @Anoop K. Nair @Pacific have JK and can advice. Just wow … how practical don’t know. I really like @Gerrit Bus setup. Check it. It’s a limo jlu 😀

Is it really what you use for? Pretty cool idea, we have quite a few truck - haven’t seen anyone use it to have tent on the truck. How’s been the experience? - first thought that comes to my mind whenever think of spending night in car is what to do with things already packed in it? Any ideas based on your experience

Congratulations @Sam K well done

Congrats @Sam K !

Congratulations @Sam K on your promotion enjoy your new level

Congratulations @Sam K on your promotion. Well done! Enjoy your new level.

congrats @Sam K enjoy the new rank!

@Sam K congrats mate - keep it up! enjoy the new level

hiya, I too have a question for my fellow jeepers! 6 months ago, I bought brand new, city tires that are great for SZR, however, with my now advanced 😁 offroad skills, I feel like I now need proper, all terrain tires. Google tells me all sorts of things, however, I d love to hear from you. I dont know much about tires, But I am looking for those that do not stick out like MAd MAx movie and wont increase massively my petrol consumption on SZR. NONO is chineese make but I also am not willing to spend ridiculously much, maybe upto like 3k? Any ideas? thanks! (My jeep is apparently JK Sahara 2017 - thanks to this thread I had no idea that jk and jl was a thing 🙊

Thank you very much everyone. I'm pumped to hit the sand and experience this next level of driving! 😁

Hi Misha @Misha Puskar The size obviously depends on if your Jeep is lifted or not and wheel size. JK comes in both 16" and 17" sizes I believe. As a general advice it's better to keep the current size for tyres to avoid any rubbing issues. For the type, I would recommend that you go for LT (which has 10 ply side wall which will give you more side wall strength) and AT tyres. BFG is standard coming as LT/AT but may be a little heavier for sand. Another favourite in the club is Yocohoma Geolander which comes as LT and non-LT version (the American spec with white writing is LT and without white writing is non-LT). Geo should not cost more than 650-700/ a piece so should be within your budget mentioned.

Well done @Krishna R, congratulations!

Hi @Misha Puskar can you share the details of your existing tire (size, brand and year) along with some pics to further advice you more appropriately? Also, share your current usage of your Jeep, is it only an off-road toy or office+off-road vehicle? While off-roading are you only driving on sand or going to mountains often?

Congratulations @PETELCZYC PAJERO - luke for reaching the Fewbie Level with Carnity Offroad Club. Looking forward to seeing you growing further and helping others to learn the art of offroading in a safe environment. Please make sure your Carnity user profile is always updated with all the latest Emergency contact details. P.S. Trip lead might deny your participation if you don't have required off-road gear. FEWBIE Drives Attended (Indicative) Minimum 5 Newbie drives are required within last 3 months for Fewbie promotion. What you'll learn Basic dune and sand reading Self-recovery techniques Shoveling at right place Crawling out of difficult situations Blip Blip - Coordinate steering and gas control Basic side sloping and hill climb Basic ridge riding and criss crossing Basic control over technical dunes Slightly faster pace desert driving Ability to manage stuck/refusals with radio Learn to control and avoid fishtailing Never fight or challenge gravity Skills required Enthusiastic and positive attitude Willingness to learn and help others Presence of mind and attention to detail Car Worthiness Any 4x4 vehicle with low range gearing Suitable approach and departure angle Off-road gear required Safety flag, tire deflator, tire pressure gauge, shovel, fire extinguisher, medical kit, radio (walkie-talkie), air compressor. Drive teamwork Manage second lead and sweep positions upon request Intuitive and proactive to support Trip Lead Observe recoveries and offer help, when needed Drive Joining Join Newbie and Fewbie drives Forum participation Active participation on the forum Share drive experience + feedback Share drive pictures in the gallery Post trip report after the drive

Well done @PETELCZYC PAJERO - luke, congratulations.

Well done @Ignacio Quindós, congratulations!

Well done @Jona, congratulations!

Congrats @Jona happy driving at new level.

Wow we have some super fast fingers... Thanks all for superb response to the drive, we can easily make another FB + convoy out of this RSVP list and still have some more on WL. Ofcourse, Sweihan is always special. Really good to see some usual suspects 😉, some old friends who i havent driven with in some time 🤘 and some new FB faces for the drive - may the force be with you 🤪🖖. We are in for some great fun with all the awesome riders and machines - needless to say the best of the best terrain UAE has to offer. PS: This weekend - have some special surprise for this drive - detail will follow. And its not @DP1011 , Deepak wrangleramazing bfast delicacies and @Looper's tried and tested tips to avoid repeated loops 😘.Though i surely wont mind either of these too. Thanks both for joining in to support the drive. In due course, we have a long WL and surely wont be able to accommodate all. So. please make sure that if your plans change, please update the RSPV at the earliest. @Beide Worku and @Ashutosh Garg noted that you are already added to @JeromeFJ drive this weekend in Sweihan too. Please confirm your interest. Ofcourse, always happy to have you on the drive. @Juan R @Gok Krish @Bravoecho @Krishna R @PETELCZYC PAJERO - luke @Mark B @Gary F @Ishak @Andrei S @Anoop Nair WL (not in any order) - @lucas amat @Bashar Beasha @Murtaza Bhuria @MohamedSherif @Pieter Potgieter @Mahmoud Taha @Ahmad Nerat @Jessica Lambert @Jona @Beide Worku @Ashutosh Garg Have a happy week ahead and looking forward to see you all this sunday.

RUBICON @Marketa Dobesova and with below pic, I rest my case

Hi @Marketa Dobesova Currently I'm driving a 2018 Jeep wrangler JL Sport trim, when I first got into off-roading I was generally surprised just how well the car performed, having said that I have since upgraded my car over time just based on preference however you can do all level drives with a stock Jeep. So first of all, with features including front and rear locking differentials, an automatic sway bar disconnect, and a Rock-Trac transfer case, the Rubicon is the most capable off-road variant however this isn't really needed (someone please correct me if I'm wrong) but I believe that the Rubicon transfer case has a higher crawl ratio which just means more torque. More fundamental off-road equipment like skid plates, tow hooks, and hill start assist are available on the Sport and Sahara models and too are present on the Rubicon model. When I first started looking at jeeps and their different trims it got confusing very fast, personally I would focus on trying to get a Sahara trim, because then you have the beauty of a sport trim with a little more comfort which if this car is also going to be a daily driver like mine it might be something to consider. The Sahara comes with 18-inch wheels whereas the sport comes with 17-inch. Now how does this make a difference? you get a little more height to work with when using the Sahara for this same reason I changed my Sport wheels for Sahara ones, and they also look really nice too! Style points 😂 Now it is all about what you prefer, older model jeeps are awesome but also with older cars comes more investment if something were to go wrong, I've had friends with 2004 model jeeps needing to get the engine rebuilt due to underlying causes. If you're in the market for an older jeep be careful because previous owners could've done a range of "upgrades" which will cause issues further down the line so just watch for engine modifications or jeeps that may seem 'too good to be true' Also, in the used car market look under the jeep it's common to spot bad rusting especially with older cars this usually occurs after taking the car to the beach and not getting an underbody wash to get rid of any salt that may have found its way onto the car's chassis. Overall, the Rubicon is the most capable off-road trim, while the Sahara is the most luxurious and comfort-oriented trim. The Sport is the most basic and affordable trim, but still has off-road capabilities. It ultimately depends on your personal preferences and intended use for the vehicle.

Thank you all for joining this morning. It was one of these drives where we use our vehicles for what they are designed for: reaching exceptional places, crossing large portions of desert. And driving these vehicles might look easy at first sight, when following an easy track, but passing through this variety of terrain, considering the slopes, the very soft sand, the bushes, the long climbs, the ridges to cross, require definitely some skills. Well done everyone, especially at the back of this long convoy, where the tracks were churned by the previous cars, as we had only a few refusals, and one pull. Thank you @Hisham Masaad for assisting the drivers from the middle of the convoy. Nice dunes with a lot of tree shade, farms spread out on flat areas, an old watch tower, isolated breeding camel mothers with their calf, bigger herds of camels, cows, young calves on a sand slope, sheep, an amazing green sabkha, African savannah, just a sample of what we could discover this morning. and we even found a steep side slope to push our engines ! @Stumpy Paj Nathan, thank you for the 2nd lead, @Joseph Raju, thank you for the seep, both roles perfectly executed, @Hisham Masaad, thanks again for the support, @Sayed Bilal, @Bravoecho, @Bashar Beasha @Frans M @Abdul Basit Khan, @Glenn W @Gary F @Ahmad Nerat, it was nice having you today. Enjoy the rest of the weekend and see you soon. Waiting for your pics in the gallery !

Enjoy the pace of FB+ in your tuned "X" @Krishna R

@Ignacio Quindós - welcome to the IMs where we talk more on the forum, than on the radios Enjoy the new pace!

Well done @Ignacio Quindós !!

Well done @Ignacio Quindós congratulations 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

Congratulations @Ignacio Quindós on your promotion. Well done. Enjoy your new level.

@Ignacio Quindós congrats mate - keep it up!