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@Ale Vallecchisuper happy for you and totally deserved. Look forward to driving with you soon.

@VipinShetty I drive a Grand Cherokee Limited and have had to remove the front bumper lower facia and the lower lip of the rear bumper. I did a couple of drives without removing it and ended up damaging both. Not sure if the trail hawk also has the option to remove the lower facia and lip but if it does, please remove it before the drive to avoid damage. If it is the single piece bumper like the SRT, you need to be extra careful and use the highest level on the air suspension. Images below of what I have done to my drive bumpers

Congrats @Shadab Khan

@sertac I have seen quite a few 3.6 scale pink rock. If you have been around when the pathfinder group is there, you will see all of them zip up and down. A 3.6 though capable can also be tuned. The V8 in JGC is also tuned to different specs for different vehicles, the SRT at around 500 bhp compared to the same turbo boost engine churning out over 700 bhp in the hell cat. Since we were specifically talking about the JGC, I had to refer to the samples in the JGC group and not to Raptors. Would be interesting though to start another thread on just comparisons between a V6 and V8 along with the advantages and disadvantages.

Agreed, if that's what you want to do in terms of just zipping up and down a dune, then yes a V8 would help as it has a crazy amount of power. My response was based on the requirement posted by @Shadab Khan. Then again if you look at some of our seniors in this group, they do the same without the V8. What each one does with their car, be it V6 or V8, a lot depends on the driver. Agree with what you said @Rahimdad about the torque. I used the wrong word there. Should have said torque in stead of power for the rock climbs.

@sertac yes power is need but in moderation atleast for the desert. The momentum you build is better than all the power the vehicle has to offer. The V8 is just too much of power that is not required in the desert. It's probably good on rock climbs but on sand, you hardly touch the accelerator and if you don't have momentum going for you it just bogs you down. Although Jeep puts these V8 engines on the higher variants, they don't really want you to take those cars off-road, they are more for tracks. With even today's JGC, it's only the 3.6 variants that come with tow points and are a lot less problematic on sand. I drive with a JGC group sometimes and most of the issues we have there are the V8's whose drivers think that all that power on tap will get them through. But like anything else, if you learn to use it the right way, it's nice to have all that extra power for the 1 off case that you may need it.

@Shadab Khan I have a 2017 JGC, bought it new and love everything about it. I have always had a soft spot for Jeeps so when looking for a car, I looked for something that I can use on and off road. I drive about 3k km a month and enjoy every minute of it. Not sure about the older JGC but the 2017 has everything I could want. I am not a fan of of the computers and gizmos, never used cruise control, hill descent or any of the other driver assist features as it takes away the joy of driving. If at anytime I need it, it's there. Coming to the off road capabilities, I'd say it is a very capable off roader although there will be some who think otherwise. The problem that I had initially was fright, as at the back of my head I always feared flying over a dune or nose diving in a 200k+ car. Once you get over that fear and start pushing, you realize that it can hold its own out there. The electronics in the JGC are another issue when it comes to off road. All the safety features the car has like the ABS, ESC and brake assist are for the tarmac and literally hold you back in the desert as there is no way to completely switch it of on the factory set up. If you decide to use the car full time for offroading, you can install a kill switch and in the desert you can then turn off all these features completely. I have just got this done on my JGC and have only done 1 drive after that but it made a huge difference. Coming to the engine specs, I would not suggest the V8. In all honesty, you will barely get to use all that power on the tarmac and it will be a nightmare in sand. The 3.6 is more than enough in my opinion. The air suspensions on the higher versions are also very problematic as they lift and go down at all the wrong time in the desert as that again is controlled by the computers and if you pull the fuse, it sits at its lowest level and is no good in the sand. To sum it up, if you are keen on a JGC that you can use on the dunes, go for the laredo or limited. Spend about 5k on good off-road tires, a 2 inch levelling kit and wheel spacers to balance the COG and you should be good to go.

@Rahimdad Thank you Rahim Bhai. Yeah, miss those chai chats after the drives and the regular feedback and motivation from you. Your calmness and patience helped alot. Glad when I started off end of 2018 with the JGC, the club was still in its starting stages so I got to have you, @Gaurav @Srikumarand @Emmanuel on every drive to help and suggest how to tame the JGC. The patience and dedication from the seniors shows with the tremendous growth Carnity has seen in the last year, from 7-8 members joining a drive to 50 signing up in less than an hour now. Thanks again to the entire Carnity team.

Congrats @Jose Martin well deserved promotion. Had the pleasure of driving behind you last week and you did really well. Keep it up.

Congrats @Gregory Perkin. Well done and deserved.

@Mels Wolf congrats, well deserved. See you in the sand.

@E.C. TAN congrats buddy, well deserved.

Wow, I'm lost for words. Wasn't expecting this. @Gaurav @Rahimdad @Emmanuel @Srikumar @Frederic thank you for the endless support and patience you'll have had in helping me throughout this journey. @Xaf @Ale Vallecchi @Wrangeld @Jeepie @Shamil @Javier M thank all of you too for the help and assistance whenever required. Been a fun ride and looking forward to what the level brings.

Congrats @Wrangeld, well deserved. We all knew it was just a matter of time for this to happen. From your very first drive, you have @Jeepie have shown tremendous enthusiasm and willingness to learn and both of you going from newbies to advanced off roaders in a few months is testament to that commitment. Well done.

Congrats @Jeepie, this has been coming for a while now. Really impressed at the pace at which you and @Wrangeld have grown. It is a pleasure having both of you on the drives with your cool and calm approach and willingness to help in any situation. Congrats again to both of you. Truly well deserved.

Congrats @Jeepie. Your commitment has been outstanding and it is showing as you scale new heights every week. Well done.

Congrats @Desert Dweller, well done. It showed you were really interested when you would sign up for the drives even without a car and ride shot gun with the seniors and all that has helped. Good to see you go from shot gun to top gun.