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@Looper@Gary F@Benjamin any inputs on this ? Doesn’t the Jeep stay on rev limiter while flooring in first gear ? Or do you guys play with the throttle to keep it just before it hits the limiter ? My trooper has no limit . 😜

Thanks @Frederic for today’s drive. The track was flowing like water. A perfect and balanced mix between some play and a fluid drive. Couldn’t have been a better one. Thank you to all the supporting members as well. Everyone was all over the convoy and specifically the new joiners like an iron net. To all the new members that joined @Carnity, this spirit and mentality of passing it forward is what makes this club unique. It’s not about extreme driving or a chest pumping contest, it really boils down to this specific point which is the community feel and team spirit. Freddy, one more, no pressure

What an amazing drive it was today. I returned to the sands today after a break of 2 years almost finding to the adrenaline filled dune climbings and ridge crossings. My big fat Armada also debuted today. Honestly I wasnt very sure about its performance and I did struggle today with the car and traction control which gave me few stucks and refusals. But all in all my elephant didnot let me down. Coming to the heroes of the day. I am short of words for your leadership @Davie Chase. You kept your calm and and made sure no man is left behind. The episode where most of the cars were stuck behind the dune, it sounded like a warzone on the radio though we coudn see on the other side.You led the army like a general with your orders and advise. I have a video of you looking like a lone survivor. @Mark B your gladiator did fight like the romans saving a lot of us today. Thanks for pulling me out a couple of time. @nithish468 get your car fixed soon. You cannot miss your Saturday ritual. Thank you everyone for the amazing drive. Would love to drive more under your leadership @Davie Chase @Mark B.

as @DP1011 predicted, after my 100th drive i am going back to Newbie fun drive 😂

Dear Desert Wanderers @Stumpy, @Cesar Chacon, @khlief, @essam ibrahim, @Pramod B, @Gary F, @Shiju Raju, @Shaun J, @Mahmut, @Bravoecho, & @Bjoern, Firstly thank you all for being on time so that we could get away sharp in the morning that is always a bonus. i hope you all enjoyed the drive as much as I did, I did say at the briefing that the sand would be soft after the recent sand storms, however, even i was surprised at how soft it was. You guys dealt with the conditions brilliantly, we had a few stucks and refusals but that is all part of the hobby and learning journey, not just for the car that is stuck but for the other club members and the support team. @Stumpy fantastic second lead mate, absolutely nailed it, great gap between me and you allowing you to anticipate my issues and great communication, to stop me if you heard anything on the radio that I maybe did not hear top marks today for my Second Lead. @Bjoern great job at sweep mate, keeping me update as to whether we were moving or had issues, great job and thanks for your support today. @Gary F, very busy Centre forward, but you are getting stronger in the support role with every drive. you handled all of the stucks in a calm and professional manner with very little input from me, great job mate thanks for the support could not have managed without you today. Hope you all have a great rest of your weekend and see you all in the sand again very soon

Thanks @DP1011 for organizing this drive at one of my favorite play areas. Enjoyable route with some fun lines. Yesterday's rain created some tricky terrain with a thin layer of wet, hard sand on top of some really soft patches in areas. Quality support as usual from @Benjamin & @Mark B. Real pleasure to have you guys on the drive. You dealt patiently and efficiently with the few stucks and refusals. Top notch! Hope you can figure out your ESC/ 4WD issues @Mark B really amazing what you've done with the big truck and kudos for doing most of the work on it yourself - wish I was that handy Always good to see @Batuhan Kulac, @Cesar Chacon, @J-P L, @Wilfredo Perez, @Jeandre Bezuidenhout & @Deepak Eswar. Best of luck on your travels @Wilfredo Perez hope to see you back in the UAE in future. Try and do some drives while you are in Saudi, from videos I've seen it looks like there are some unbelievably stunning playgrounds there @Zubail Good to see you again mate and to see you gaining confidence in handling that whale of a car. Great driving today Nice to meet you guys @khlief, @Danny G & @Prithvi Raj. Great driving with everyone! See you all again soon

Dear all @RiadJL @J-P L @Wilfredo Perez @Cesar Chacon @Deepak Eswar @Zubail @Jeandre Bezuidenhout @Danny G @khlief @Batuhan Kulac & WL @Prithvi Raj ( Thanks to my Fellow Jeeper Support members @Benjamin @Mark B, we can afford to have 14 member convoy - Not more) ! The Convoy ordering will be shared by tomorrow noon, and am Looking forward to seeing you on Sunday, interestingly looking at the weather forecast, its expected to be at lowest i.e 30 Degrees just about our meeting time ! In case you have changes to plans, please can I ask you to update your RSVP accordingly, otherwise, I see you Deflated 5.45am On Sunday morning !

Another fantastic drive @Frederic. It is always a pleasure to be your S/L. Along with a terrific line-up of support from @Imran Asghar, @Zed, @Dodi Syahdar, and @Srikumar. It was a pleasure to meet you Sri, after so much time with the club. Looking forward to driving on one of your drives soon. I had our newest club member behind me, @Abhishek Chikara. Well done on your first official drive with us. You drove well and controlled your descent nicely on the way down some of those steep drops. You also had watched well your prep videos because you got yourself inflated without issue. Positive (Red) first then Negative (Black) next. Reverse for disconnecting. @Carl Stanley got a tip on disconnecting ABS and traction control for his Pajero by pulling out the relay. This will give some additional control over your car next time. Frederic wrote about this here: Have a great week ahead and see you next weekend.

RSVP IS NOW CLOSED Good morning peeps ! @Emanuel@achikara@Siddharth Sai G@Imran Asghar@Gilberto@Carl Stanley@MICHAEL PAJERO single door@Sumedh Krishna@Zed@Zubail@J-P L@Mehmet Volga@Glenn W@Ahmed Wagdy@Mike M.@Richard Franks@Srikumar@Dodi Syahdar Please find your convoy numbers posted above. After the Newbie briefing, we will head out for some fun in the nice dunes of this area. The plan is to explore a bit and cover some distance. We will be using Channel 4: 446.081 Mhz on the radio. If you are joining for the first time, there are instructions posted on how to program the radio here in the topic, but if you are in doubt we can probably help you out or lend you a spare radio if needed. Please try to arrive 10-15min before the actual meeting time. This ensures we can head into the dunes while it's still nice and cool. By 10AM it gets too hot so we need to make the best use of our time. See you all tomorrow !

Some advice once you get the bug for off roading, always stretch your budget more then you think if you are going to be in the desert almost every week, I believe myself and Ben went through 4 stages of compressor envy. With this years ADihex show we upgraded to the ARB twins, self installed, including a self fabbed bracket for the rear of the gladiator. Next outstanding task is to source 10 gauge wire and wire it up.

Yeah thank you @Davie Chase for a great drive today although it nearly killed me 😂 my fitness levels were definitely challenged! Couldn’t have done without @Bjoern who’s winch definitely saved the day! And that cold bottle of water from your fridge saved me 😂 was great to see everyone still in good spirits at the end even tho we were waaaaay over time! So thank you to all of you for your patience. I think we all probably learned something today! I know I did 😊😊 you all drove brilliantly today and I look forward to seeing you all again in the sand soon

Good afternoon desert wanderers @Emanuel, @Nizar Shawwa, @Yusuf Esaf, @nithish468, @Mark B, @Mahmut, @Marek, @Ishak and @Bjoern Thank you all for being on time this morning it is always a good start to get the briefing done and away sharp. As we soon found out that this time of year the sand can be very soft in places and indeed hard underneath. so we started off with a couple of semi popouts for our second lead @Emanuel AKA the White Rhino, but they were quickly dealt with by our center forward @Mark B. we then had a few stucks in the softer sand and between @Mark B and @Bjoern they were dealt with superbly. we had one that took a bit of time to resolve so we went on a short cut up the pylon track towards our exit of Sweihan. Then we turnt right to enter the last patch of sand before exit and boy did that last 30 minutes of the drive give us some fun, so much so that the 30 minutes extended into two hours :). So thank you all for your patience it was amazing that you were all still smile at the end. You guys drove amazingly well apart from the couple of issues mentioned above, so take Solis from this that it was not easy terrain and that we had a few technical stucks to deal with but that we did only have a few that took time to resolve. well done everyone. My Second lead @Emanuel did amazingly well to keep my lines smooth and to react to all of my instructions quickly and accurately. Thanks Emanuel always good to have you in the S/L position. Our sweep for the day @Bjoern did amazingly well keeping me informed and assisting with several of our sucks with his winching skills and usual calm demeaner, thanks and appreciate you being there today, you will sleep well tonight. And lastly to the busiest man on the drive, a big thankyou to @Mark B in the center forward position keeping the middle of the middle of the convoy synced with the front and back, and whilst doing that dealing with all of the stucks, pop outs and refusals that we encountered. Thanks again for all of your hard work and the professionalism and calmness that you showed as we dealt with all of the issues that we faced. Excellent support and great to see you growing into the support role as well as you have. Once again thank you all for your patience and hope to see you on one of my drives in the very new future.😊😊 Have a great rest of your weekend... @RiadJL unfortunately we were all ready to go at 06:15 so could not wait for you as it would not have been fair to all those that were there on time. hopefully you will get on a FB+ drive very soon, if you sleep and cant make the start time +/- 5 minutes, then it is always best to just post on the forum that you cannot make it rather than drive to the meeting point as we may or may not still be there. hope you get on a drive soonest. have a great rest of your weekend

Thanks for the heads-up @Theo09. As soon as the weather cools down i will start posting them RSVP IS NOW CLOSED @Mike M.@Gilberto@MICHAEL PAJERO single door@Carl Stanley@Sumedh Krishna@Zed@Zubail@ChrisW@Ahmed Farouk@Anoop Nair@Asif Hussain Thanks for signing up ! We will be using Channel 2- 446.031 Mhz on our walkie talkies. Please make sure to bring your radio, flag, and a good shovel. The plan is to have a decent paced drive across the white sands of Fayah, with the occasional socializing break You can start deflating to 14-15psi if you have Highway Terrain (HT) tires, and 12psi if you have All Terrain Tires (AT). See you all at sunrise !

Dear Desert Wanderers @Stumpy, @Cesar Chacon, @khlief, @essam ibrahim, @Pramod B, @Gary F, @Andrei S, @Shiju Raju, @Shaun J, @Mahmut, @Bravoecho, & @Bjoern, the RSVP is now closed for this drive. Please be advised we will be using Ch4 446.081 for this drive and the convoy order will be as below. I am looking forward to seeing you all in the morning deflated and flags up at 06:00 for some great adventures in the sand.

thanks @DP1011 for the drive, great weather for it. drive faced quite a few issues throughout however all manager expertly by our team of Marshalls. Thanks @Islam Soliman and @Looper for supporting the drive. hope your jeeps okay @Julien Recan and hope you didn’t take too much longer to get out that last patch with the overheating vehicle @Islam Soliman thanks to everyone in the convoy for an enjoyable morning in the desert @Davie Chase hope you can appreciate my flags shown in the first picture in person soon. Flying proud!

Agreed @DP1011 finding the sweet spot is crucial and that sweet spot changes on several variables. As someone whom drives a Jeep Gladiator I’m already at a disadvantage for climbs, carrying an extra 250+kg compared to short and long wheel base Wranglers. Climbing needs to be approached with care, and momentum which can be hard to maintain with the amount of crosstracks in popular climbing spots around Dubai. i also use “Part-Time” and off-road plus on alL my drives. Anything in the range of iftar bowl I’ll use tiptronic as my jeep has a terrible habit of change up to the next gear just as momentum is sapped. At the same time the Jeep gearboxes computer also has a terrible habit refusing to change down with a shift not allowed message when it does not like the rev range . one crucial component of a climb is the slope you are climbing, this is hard to judges visually by the nature of large dunes playing with your visual perception. for the throttle always feather, as it’s not connected by a linkage it’s always better to have scope push a little harder assuming the jeep computer allows it. Incidentally I drive lower than 11psi -t the start of drives, but I’m running geolander all terrains the Light truck variant, these have stiff sidewalls and extra layers compared to the regular AT.s my advice next time you are out there at a climbing spot, ask the marshal if you can do a few more practice runs. This immensely helps to build skills and consistency and then there are some days that no matter what, you just are not gonna get as far up as you want, don’t push it and accept there will always be another future drive.

POST OF THE YEAR. So perfectly elaborated!!

@Abhishek Chikara Jeep's handle relatively funny when it comes to climbing especially in different dune environments. The first thing that could be contributing to this rev limiter doing that would potentially be traction control or electronic stability control (more likely) kicking in when you begin to climb. So, when you're in 4H make sure to press and hold the traction control button for 10 seconds shortly after you'll get a charm sound which means TC and ETC are both off (in my early days this was contributing a lot to my issues in climbs I was just turning off TC) Now if you have already done that and your engine is still limiting your revs try using Tiptronic manual on all the large climbs you'll want to be in 1st gear until 5000 rpms change to second (remember to let off the throttle anytime you change gears, it makes a large difference when you lay back down on the power) once you begin to drop in second gear switch back to first repeating the same foot-work. (Sometimes in the jeeps the gear change acts a little off if you just lay on the accelerator my take is some software preventing throttle within the change of gears but I'm unsure) If you're still facing the same problem, there are two things you can do. Either you're in 4H auto and the computer is learning this more aggressive driving style (high likelihood) so more drives = computer adapts better to your command in the future. or you can try using 4H part-time. (FYI 4 auto is 4 wheels turning based on computer processing where to send the power 4 part-time is 4 wheels spinning all the time) my recommendation is to stay in 4H auto though. Overall, I've faced your issue before, and I think you can eliminate that rev cut by using both tiptronic gears and correct foot-work into your climbs to maximize momentum and rev issues. on a side-note practice on flat-ground to figure out which RPM and gear gives you the most initial torque that will also make a world of a difference by changing your gears within the right RPM threshold. Keep an eye on coolant temp 110 degrees is overheating

Another drive that lived up to it's name, a lovely fast paced roller-coaster thanks @Simon D! A big thanks to the support team of @Imteeaz and @Benjamin for the advice and working hard with the flat tire and pop out! To @RiadJL and @Mahesh_ great to drive with you guys again, always good! All in a very good Sunday morning!

That is a real Fredy's signature.

@Brett Eicher, something for you: @Zed some more snaps of your impostor... I keep hearing your cutoff when you were going up that bowl, amazing @Alexanderrr, I somehow managed to catch only one shot of your beast: @RiadJL and his 392: @DP1011 of course: @Nizar Shawwa hope you'll like it: @Mahmut, I shared all of hi-res with you already Photogenic red as always: Who did I miss?

Epic drive!

Thanks @DP1011 for the amazing drive and introduction to FB+ ! Very well paced, short and sweet drive. After the difficulties faced last week on Davie's drive I was expecting more issues but we luckily managed to get out today with only a few minor refusals and zero stucks. The sand was quite soft in some areas but well managed by the Jeeps and the imposters Was great to see familiar faces again and to meet some of you for the first time Thanks @Zed for helping us out with the few refusals in what was a pretty stress-free drive for you Looking forward to seeing you all again on the sands. Enjoy the rest of your weekends gentlemen!

It's a safety feature

RSVP CLOSED. Dear JEEPERS & IMPOSTERS 😛 ( @Aser @Brett Eicher @Mahmut @Nizar Shawwa @Marek @RiadJL @Alexanderrr & @Zed ) Below Convoy order - you all have driven earlier with me and hence I will not re-iterate about start time of the drive 5.55am we leave. Please factor in every possibility of Fog and leave accordingly to be on/before time ! The meeting point is : https://maps.app.goo.gl/uoPKsJH8NAUYKdnS6?g_st=ic ( updated in the description) We will use Channel 2 : 446.031. See you tomorrow 5.40 DEFLATED AND FLAGGED UP.

Thanks @Gautam Banka i got it Fixed !! that was a test to check who reads the Description !!! 😂🤪

This was @Frederic’s plan to keep it a Newbie drive by using the truck as a sand plower to keep the track smooth and tidy for the new guys.

Good morning everyone, The soft sands were certainly our nemesis that dogged us all morning. Thanks @Davie Chase for your kind words summarising my support as S/L and for your leadership throughout the drive. It was certainly most valuable when things got tricky for so many of the convoy in that final leg of the drive. Thanks @Bjoern for helping winching me up enough to then make my own way out of that stuck. Again, our nemesis in her finest hour. Thanks to @Mark B and @Ishak for helping me with my semi-pop outs. I don't recall seeing those before in the desert drives and all mine needed was a bit of air. No jack required. Makes sense, they only looked like a flat tire. I briefly had a S/L today. 🤣 Thanks @Nizar Shawwa for following the plan to make our way back to the convoy. You went down that tall and sharp decent with solid control and appropriate speed. It is so important to listen to the radio and follow the instructions of the marshals and support team. I know ego and or adrenaline can impair our listening abilities but this risks making things worse for yourself and holding up the convoy because what could have been an easier recovery now needed more time and effort. It's for your own safety and for the safety of your fellow drivers. As Davie mentioned, listening up even if it isn't you the marshal is speaking to gives us an idea of what to expect when it is our turn and what to do or not do in order to have a successful attempt. It's also best not to pass another driver in front of you in convoy order or to park beside and above them on a side slope. Especially on a soft sand slope. Safety Bear rant over. 🤣 Have a great rest of the weekend everyone and see you next time on the sands!

3 cars at the back me, @Mahmut, and @Marek were planning to run away back to the fence 🤣🤣 until @Davie Chase called on the radio “who’s next?” 🤣🤣. I added last pop out and stuck to make it perfect 👌. Thanks @Davie Chase for a great drive today 🫡. Thanks to @Mark B and @Bjoern for your support 👍🏼👍🏼. looking forward to seeing you all on the future drive

Dear Desertnauts a very quick briefing before this Sunday PM drive. The mission is clear, as stated in the drive's description: to beat the previous record of cumulative climbing in the Badayer/Area 53 area. That is climbing a total of 2,272 meters, to pass the previous record by at least 1 meter. Therefore, we'll move from star dune to star dune, with the goal of reaching each formation between Badayer's shops and the planned exit at Ericsson Tower in Al Madam, and climb every slope from bottom to top, with multiple side slopes (and some occasional criss-crossing. The convoy at the moment is the following: @Andrew John Melvill in Second Lead @Abhilash Kottakkal at #3 @Cha at Center @RiadJL at #5 @Jon L at #6 and @Mahmoud Taha in Sweep. The meeting point has been posted at Badayer's Shops, past the Quad rentals' area. Looking forward to seeing you on Sunday PM. Enjoy the end of the week.

Thank you all for joining this drive his morning ! We set off a bit before 7 after the briefing, and the farm trails brought us to some nice scenic areas, with some nice challenges along the way in the area behind the arboretum, consisting of larger dunes where we could wake up our cars a bit and do some recoveries as well All of you drove really well ! I hope you enjoyed the style of drive this was, and if you see "scenic" labeled drives coming up this winter, and you enjoyed this drive, you will be able to expect a similar thing. During the winter of course we will drive longer and further. As long as we are in summer, we need to head out off the sands by 10AM. See you soon on one of the drives ! You can find the picture gallery below: Newbie - Faqaa Leisure Drive - Dubai - 31 Aug 2024 - Carnity.com

Thanks @Shaun J .. yes actually was a stupid one.. just a lose nut causing bad connection .. once we tightened it all was ok and we drive out with no issues. thanks @DP1011 for a wonderful drive .. route, pace, and overall one of the best. Was pleasure to meet and drive with you all and special thanks to @Looper and @Anoop Nair for staying back and keeping company until we found the lose 🔩.

The above seems to be estimated torque curve for JL in first gear. So it seems it's not productive to go beyond the 5000 rpm point. The best way to is to anticipate the gear and climb and generate enough momentum and keep the pedal modulated (not flooring) to keep the rpm between 4000-5000.

Dear @Mahesh_, @Andrew John Melvill, @Imteeaz, @RiadJL, @Benjamin. It have been nice to see you all again after some time everyone drove really good , the weather was acceptable but a bit windy . The first half consisted of the warmup and practicing and wakening up our maneuver instincts by going through some awkward and angles before hitting the sharp edges and the tall dunes. we slowly increased the pace over those wonderful dunes, till we stopped for the break. unfortunately, the 2nd have was not as fun as the 1st half of the drive as i got my front tire slashed by a rock and we had to practice changing the spare tire process 😂. after we fixed @Mahesh_ pop out i decided to exit at 2nd of December. Thanks @Benjamin and @Imteeaz for the support and @Mahesh_ for the Sweep looking forward to see you again

@J-P L @Zubail Uploaded a video of you guys riding the tall dune. There are two other cars in the video but not sure who they are. The last car is black Jeep, I believe it could be @Mehmet Volga or @Sumedh Krishna Al Ajban - tall dune

Indeed. 😃

Dear Friends, @Mahesh_, @Andrew John Melvill, @Mahmoud Taha, @Imteeaz, @RiadJL, @Gautam Banka, @Benjamin I hope you are excited for our tomorrow's drive. Looking forward to see you all tomorrow morning , always emphasized and required that everyone make sure of your car is in a perfect shape and have all your gear as per your rank. Meeting Point: https://maps.app.goo.gl/8h8yf4zznDE4jQbJ6 Meeting time is 07:00 AM Sharp We will use Carnity Radio Channel 7. The convoy order will be as the following :

Doing first FB+ in Nahil isn't a good idea tbh, especially after the holiday gap. You can test your skills in other areas first for safety reasons. Nahil with steep climb, soft ridges, big bowls can be overwhelming.

Excellent write-up @Marek. The storyline only begins to tell the tale of what was the 7 September 2024 Fewbie Plus Desert Drive in Nahel, Abu Dhabi. 🤣

come on gents, nobody's dropping out on the last minute? 😭 edit: Thanks @Davie Chase for adding me!

Great drive today. If there was a level between fewbie and fewbie plus... that's what I would class this drive as. Diverse and exciting. Nahel is a great area for criss crossing and looong sidees. Thank you @Ale Vallecchi for organising and giving me the pleasure of sweeping. I hope I was helpful to everyone . See you all again soon on the sand. Dig and Claw!

@Frederic thank you for a great morning out it was a lovely drive, the convoy effortlessly moved through the desert! Some impressive driving from drivers new to the desert! Was very impressed with the level this morning and I felt a really nice team spirit today which made it even better, you don’t get that on every drive so makes it even more enjoyable. thank you all and hope to see you again soon.

RSVP IS NOW CLOSED @Emanuel@GregoryHorn@Amal Sunil@J-P L@Mike M.@Arvindraj@Ishak@MICHAEL PAJERO single door Thank you for signing up ! Please find some notes below on the drive: 1. There could be fog in the early morning. Please be safe and don't rush. Leave the house a bit earlier if needed. 2. We will be using Walkie Talkie Radio Channel 4: 446.081 Mhz 3. The plan is an easy leisure drive with a few challenges built-in along the way. It will be more focused on long distance driving with good pace. Not very technical. @Arvindraj as you are joining us for your first club drive (MC completed), please bring a flag and radio. (if you do not have a radio yet, we can lend you one for this drive). I am sure you will enjoy this morning out Please also take some time today to watch the Newbie Briefing Video that was listed in the drive. It contains important information. Once you reach the meeting point, you can start deflating your tyres to 14 psi if you have HT tyres, and around 11-12psi if you have AT tyres. Do not hesitate to approach me if you have any questions or doubts. See you all tomorrow !

Convoy order as below, Channel 2: 446:031, See you all in about 10 hours time🤟🏽!

Please find the convoy numbering below. We will use Radio channel 8. @Jeandre Bezuidenhout @GregoryHorn @Steven Noronha @MICHAEL PAJERO single door @Frederic @Amal Sunil @Damian @Glenn W @Bjoern @J-P L @RiadJL @Andrei S @Looper @Senthil Kumar Gaurav Silver Pajero Jeandre Bezuidenhout 2024 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon, 4door, Yellow GregoryHorn 2024 Ford Everest - 4 door - black Steven Noronha Baic bj40 2023 MICHAEL PAJERO 2006 3.8 V6 PAJERO Frederic 1999 Isuzu Trooper - Green Amal Sunil 2018 Fortuner V6 GXR - white Damian 2023 Landcruiser GR Sport Bjoern 2022 Jeep Wrangler 4 door silver Glenn W 2017 Toyota FJ Cruiser - Cement Grey J-P L 2021 Suzuki Jimny 3 Door Grey Senthil Kumar 2014, Jeep Wrangler 4 door- Red RiadJL 2022 Jeep Wrangler 392 Silver Andrei S Grey FJ 2015 Looper 2019 Jeep Wrangler Sport - 2 Door - Yellow

I am at the garage now, will update soon. Thanks all for the short but intense drive 😁

@Shaun J yes they are flying high and proud, well done mate I will look out for a St. George’s cross just for fits and giggles lol