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    Thanks everyone for joining and making this drive a truly "unforgettable family get-together" with lot of adventures. Started little late due to rough weather and those who reached early enjoyed a second round of breakfast at meeting point. In all we had 10 cars from sports cars - 4x4's. Soon after we started few cars got deviated from the route due to bad visibility in windy weather and lack of coordination. Once we all join back we straight head to Kalba area from Maleiha road to enjoy the most scenic mountain view in the UAE. Due to lost time, we only managed to stop in one place through the mountain range and everyone clicked enough pictures for their social media profile and family portraits. Once we reached to Fujairah, to our our surprise whole corniche was closed due to some para games organized their from 18-24 Feb. We tried our luck for next Khorfakkan beach and we could find a sweet spot in grass and shade to settle all family and kids. By the time we reached khorfakkan, weather has changed completely for good and become very stable and pleasant (thank god). It was about 18-20 degrees with very slight drizzle (occasionally) along with nice and pleasant breeze. We settled down and opened our grand lunch buffet loaded with multi nationality specialty cuisine. Thanks everyone for bringing awesome finger licking food in such generous quantity for all. Next time for such Friday lunch, please skip the breakfast to save space for so many specialties. After a sumptuous lazy Friday lunch, it was an action time for all ages. Toddlers and younger kids have enough beach rides and sand toys to keep them occupied. Few decided to stay back and enjoy the chill time at beach and keep an eye on kids. We went straight to our much awaited adventure rides. Thankfully all activities in Fujairah beach and khorfakkan beach are same, so we haven't lost anything by change of place. First of all we decided to hit the Jet ski and though it was my first time, so I learned very well after my first fall off the jet ski with Govind. It was an amazing experience and I can easily co-relate this with off-roading as if you really wanna enjoy then go as fast as you can to glide above the bumpy waves. After that we aim for para sailing, again it was my first time in such adventure sport so I was ready for all surprises. By the time I reach on top I realize this isn't an adventure sport, it's a scenic ride. It was so slow, serene and calming to glide in a parachute above the sea and enjoy the beautiful mountain view is far from scary and thrilling. It was as similar as in flying in cesna in low altitude and enjoy the city view in Dubai. The only sad part about this ride was it lasted in less than 5 minutes and we landed much before we can actually capture anything. Last but not least almost everyone decided to go for a boat ride. More than the boat ride I personally enjoyed the real sport of negotiation with the boat guys as everyone offering different rates for per person and for full boat. So some of our expert negotiator's landed with different proposal and strategies to knock those boat guys down in a multi billion dollar deal, lol. Finally after 15-20 minutes of sporting session both parties came to an agreement and all of us went for a much awaited boat ride. As we reached half way, we realized that this boat trip was not for dropping all of us to the island but just to show the island and come back. Surprise.....! Anyways in the middle of Arabian Sea none of our expert negotiator's thought of challenging the boat guy and we quietly decided to come back to shore with a hope that next time we will visit that island. Overall it was one fully loaded road trip + family get-together + picnic + special lunch + endless adventures in super perfect weather on the beach. By 7:00 PM, we all started packing up our cars and ending up with a discussion for our next week location, which is already decided now and will be soon announced in trips section. It's a very special, unique and hidden "natural lake" in the desert. Hope to see everyone for this special surprise, as 90% of the people haven't visited this lake in UAE.
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    Thank you to all the active members of Carnity who have supported the drives by coming out in numbers and have shown the enthusiasm and the will to learn, As you would notice after this weeks drive that I am trying to pick the level slowly so that every one gets the confidence and the know how of how to tackle different dunes in different situations. I'm pleased to announce the upcoming drive on 10th Feb, Friday afternoon to let the members of Carnity experience the ultimate terrain in the UAE. This drive is going to be slightly more challenging than our previous 2 drives and will be an addition to your learning curve which so far has been impressive. The beauty of this area, the wide open dunes, and with the occasional sighting of wildlife like gazelles and oryx are all resons to set your pulses racing. The plan would be to meet up at 2:30 pm as per the below link and than head out to have some awesome fun through terrain that will leave you wanting more, and we will end it with a good spot to sit around and have a BBQ session with chats about the drive, general talk and share some jokes. When : 10 February 2017 at 2:30 pm Where : First Emarat Petrol station on Dubai - Al Ain Road after Outlet Mall. GPS Coordinate: https://goo.gl/maps/KD4Lath3cB42 Level of drive: Newbie/Fewbie Plan: Drive followed by BBQ What to bring along: Stuff for BBQ like grill, charcoal, lighter fluid and BBQ meat or chicken, water, liquids, smiles, stories, enthusiasm and willingness to learn. Approximate finish time : 9 pm Note : Drive level can be changed if required to suit the level of the convoy. List of participants: Rahimdad Kadwani - 050 6749099 Mujtaba - 050 810007 Srikumar - 055 9567471 Himanshu - 055 6533648 Jason - 050 5547290 Joseph John, Sharon and Dennis - 055 120 7383 Gaurav Khanna - 050 5258706
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    Just came across this on whatsapp, may be @amid this seems more viable solution for your worries. I think / hope this device should be available in market to install too for private vehicles too, so that you can interrupt the tailgater radio for few seconds to run the warning in 4 language, very creative attempt by RTA dubai.
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    @Barryis right- quick lube joints are a plague upon the face of the earth, and they should be eradicated. How to do this is perhaps a topic for another discussion though. @desertdude is also right when he says that heat is one of the biggest factors that break down oil, but heat does not break down the base oil- heat breaks down the additives in the oil, and especially the detergents, which is mainly what causes the sludge that Barry found in the engine he shows in his post. However, ambient heat is not the problem. The real problem is that the ultimate temperature the oil reaches, (as Gaurav correctly points out), moisture in the oil, poor quality additives, and mixing different brands of oil all combine to reduce the overall lubricity of the oil in the engine. Let’s look at each factor- 1.) Moisture collects in all engines when they cool down. Eventually, this moisture combines with the sulfur in the base oil, and when this mix is heated as the engine warms up, you end up with sulfuric acid when certain combustion products are added to the mix. There is nothing anyone can do about this- it is a simple chemical reaction that occurs in all engines that use mineral oil. 2.) Some oil manufacturers use the cheapest additives they can find, but more importantly, they do not always balance the proportions of these additives to ensure efficient lubrication from one production batch to the next. For instance, friction modifiers need viscosity improvers to prevent the friction modifiers from settling out, so if they do not add enough viscosity improver of the correct type and grade, you may end up with all the friction modifiers in the bottom of the sump, instead of being evenly distributed throughout the oil matrix. 3.) NO two oil companies use the same additive packages in their final product, even though their spec sheets “confirm” that the product meets or exceeds any number of specifications. Thus, it often happens that when you mix different brands of oil, you end up with a mix where one type of additive interferes with the function of the same type of additive in the oil already in the engine. This happens more with detergents and anti-foaming agents, and it can even happen that two different detergents can “cancel” each other out, which means that the oil mix in an engine may have no, or very little cleaning properties Then there is the issue of oil standards. For instance, oil that conforms to the America SAE standard does not have to take into account the special needs that same engines may have. All American oil has to do is pass the crude standards of the Clean Air Act, and then just barely. By comparison, European oil standards require that all oil grades bearing the ACEA (European Automobile Manufacturers' Association) seal must comply with standards that are specified by European car manufacturers, which is why sludge in European engines is unheard of in Europe. This has nothing do with European sensibilities; it has to do with proper quality control standards, which state (among other things) that all ACEA oils of any given grade must all contain additives of the same quality, and in the same amounts, regardless of who the ACEA-approved oil manufacturer is. Overall, and because all things are NOT equal when it comes to engine oil, I agree with @Gaurav when he says that the onus is on the car owner to make sure he gets the oil that is best for his particular vehicle. However, I will be the first to admit that this is not an easy thing to do in a market where used oil can be collected, mechanically filtered, and then sold as “virgin oil”. Thus, the only real advice I have is for people to stick to the oil grade and brand recommended by the manufacturers of their vehicles, and NEVER to mix oil brands, even if they are of the same grade. How often oil is changed is largely up to individuals, and if they can afford it, there is nothing wrong with replacing oil more frequently than the manufacturer of their vehicle specifies, but there is really no need to replace oil every 3000, or even 5000 km. This is just wasting money. However, oil change intervals should NEVER exceed recommended times, but changing oil a few thousand KM earlier cannot do any harm, and especially on vehicles with 15 000 km (or longer) oil change intervals. Bear in mind that the additive problem applies to synthetic oil as much as it does to mineral oil, since synthetic oil is nothing by an improved version of mineral oil that is distilled from various hydrocarbon-rich gases. Synthetic base oils also require additives to work, but because the molecules in synthetic oils are all the same size, this type of oil lasts longer because the load of lubricating the engine is shared equally among all the molecules, which is not the case with mineral oil. Nonetheless, new generation synthetic oils do NOT mix well with ANY other oils, including most old- generation synthetic oils, so if you want to use synthetic oil in an engine that is not designed specifically for synthetic oil, make damn sure you get the right synthetic oil that will mix with what you have in your engine now, or, end up with the amount of sludge Barry found in the engine he shows.
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    Thanks to all the Carnity active members for joining the previous off-road drives and have shown the great enthusiasm. We plan to give equal opportunities to all car enthusiast's to enjoy the carnity drives. Hence this time we plan to head out to Fujairah through Kalba road to enjoy the most scenic view in the UAE. Perfect opportunity for photographers to hone their skills and make good use of their camera (in my case). Meeting point: Last ADNOC on Sharjah-Kalba (Maliha) road GPS Coordinates: https://goo.gl/maps/PBLWyryWVyH2 Meeting time: 10 AM Photo stops: 3-4 stops en route (15 mins each) Reaching Kalba: 12:30 (for Friday prayers) Mosque in Kalba: https://goo.gl/maps/cEJHwkBnDHB2 Reaching Fujairah: 2 PM Fujairah Corniche: https://goo.gl/maps/HZDwCicvuGz Enjoy Friday lunch on Fujairah beach with the whole group Enjoy Jet skies, Para Sailing or boat ride on Fujairah beach. If we have enough interest will hire a boat to visit neighboring island (1 hr) for more photo opportunities for the shutterbugs. What to bring along: Friday lunch whatever you like to eat and share with others, water, liquids, smiles, stories, enthusiasm and eye for picture perfect. Approximate finish time : 6-7 PM List of participants: Rahimdad Kadwani - 050 6749099 Derik Jignesh - 050 9758650 Radhika 050 4732445 and Ravi 055 4220344 Girish (Presism) - 055-7446740 Sohini and Iraj - 050 4642690 Raju and Sunny - 050 9507948 Gaurav Khanna - 050 5258706
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    What a lovely spent Friday. Truely an amazing drive with lovely people to catch-up with...@presism bhai .. Aapke aloo Ki sabzi was lajawab . So was rahim bhai aloo parotee.....Looking forward to catch up next week....Thanks a ton GAURAV Sharing few pics which are readily available. More shots on the way......
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    This I blame on the car manufacturers. I've often been told the analog speedometer show numbers more optimistic as compared the car's real speed. The main thing is that cars come here with certain options. If you spec up your car at the dealer like putting larger rims, etc., then you need to re-calibrate your car's speedometer. Most of the time this is not done. I do not know if this imbalance is done on purpose. Probably is, but you know that when someone then upgrades or updates their car's wheels and tires, makes it worse. If your car has digital read out of the speed, then please use it. If you see a difference in between the analog and the digital readouts, then do visit your service dealer and ask them to re-calibrate it. Its not a hard thing to do.
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    Here is the most awesome drive video, especially for the people who missed it
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    Totally agree and that is because of all litterbugs go there only. Same thing ended up with hatta pools and so many other beautiful scenic spots in UAE. Driving off-road seriously come as a blessing in such scenario, so we can venture out and about to scout a clean spot. BTW, below estimated track from lisali to qudra may excite everyone more here.
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    This is a very simple and cheap test you can do on your own car. All you need is a cheap multimeter at 40-50dhs. You can probably pick one up even cheaper online or at somewhere like dragon mart. I'm sure some of us have experienced a problem where you parked the car up in the morning and went back to it in the morning and it wouldn't start because of a flat battery. Why did this happen? It was working fine last night? You should first test the battery with a proper battery discharge tester. This is a bit more expensive than a multimeter and I appreciate that most people won't have or won't buy one. Next thing you need to check is the functionality of your alternator. You can do this with a multimeter which is one of the tools i recommend everyone should have. Set the alternator to VDC. DC volts. Measure the battery voltage across the positive and negative terminals with the engine stopped and ignition off. It should be 12 volts give or take half a volt either way. Next, start the car and measure the voltage again using the same method. Depending on the car, you should see a voltage of 13-14 volts. If you rev the engine and see a wild fluctuation the charging regulator could be fried but this is a whole other topic. Ok, now that you're sure that your battery and alternator are fine, let's find out why your battery is draining overnight. Disconnect the negative battery terminal and connect the negative wire on your multimeter to the negative terminal on the battery. Tape it on if you have to. Next connect the positive wire on your multimeter to the cars earth lead. Again, tape it on if you have to. Now turn your multimeter on. Set it to the highest possible amp setting and turn it down gradually until you get a reading on the screen. Once you see a reading, this is your battery drain. Pull the fuses out one by one and watch for the reading dropping to zero. When you pull a fuse and the reading drops, you know you have found the circuit where the problem is. Check your cars fuse diagram and see what the fuse corresponds to and you know where to start looking for the problem.
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    Gaurav and Rahimdad explaining the techniques of going up and over a dune! Class on the basic gear to have The full set Deflating First view of the deep desert! So calm and surreal! From the inside of Rahimdads trusty Pathfinder
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    Dash cams are now legal in UAE, http://www.khaleejtimes.com/dash-cameras-legal-in-uae The most important thing to do is stay calm. Dont let them goad you into driving faster, stick to a speed you're comfortable with. Sorry mr police man, I had another car up my ass isn't an excuse that will get you off with a speeding fine. If you can, pull to the right and let the idiot past. Don't get too close to the car in front either. It's bad enough if you happen to get rear ended but it's even worse getting sandwiched. There's a chance you won't walk away from it. There is also the temptation to brake test them but just remember that if they're already up your ass over the speed limit and flashing their lights, there's a chance that they're not a particularly well adjusted or civilized human being and you could end up with a broken jaw next time the traffic flow stops. For some reason, certain people turn into big assholes when they get behind the wheel.
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    In a country where even a can of coke that costs AED 1.50 is being ordered over the phone to deliver to the house, or someone blocks traffic just to stop by a grocery store to honk and get it delivered to his car when he could park his car about 2 minutes walk and get it himself, it is a tough ask for such lazy people to read and understand their car. They rather go to someone who treats them like arbab, charge them a dime and get his engine to give torubles after some time so that their garage is full and they can earn more from the damage done to these engines. In a population where we have over a million cars on road, an excellent forum like Carnity has less than 15,000 members out of which many are not active. Not everybody is as passionate about their cars to know more about it, all they want to do is have the biggest, baddest ride in town and being totally unaware of what is happening underneath the hood. A few active people here can talk all they want, but these are the people who are aware and care about their rides and have some knowledge, and dig out information from like minded people when needed. Others just don't care, but they are not on the forum to read and understand and base their actions on advise from the great people in this community. Keep sharing @Barry, @Gaurav, @taqirr, @desertdude. You guys are doing a great job sharing such important information, just hoping that more people would be involved. Some of us buy second hand cars and just imagine if we were to get our hands on a ride from one of the idiots who knows nothing about his car. Just recently I did not make a purchase f a Jeep Grand Cherokee 5.7 litre hemi because of the attitude of the person who was selling it. When i started asking him questions about the maintenance of his vehicle, he snapped at me and said if you don't want to buy the Jeep than thank you for wasting my time. Shocking.
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    Moonlighting as a Producer, Mixing and Mastering engineer I can fill out pages on this subject, but I'll keep it short and sweet. Since I don't know your car type, or what kind of music you prefer to listen to, I'm going to keep it generic to get a good overall balanced sound. Technically one speaker cannot produce the entire frequency range of the sound spectrum. So assuming you have a regular sedan, I would say get a decent set of tweeters in the front, placed at ear level, usually the A pillars, And for the doors ( assuming your doors have only a single speaker and don't have low range [bass] encloures built it ) get the speaker with the widest frequency range, between 12Khz to even 60Hz would be good. All this info should be available on the box or the website of the speaker in the form of a frequency response chart. Keep the speakers within the power output range of the head unit. Don't go too low or too high. ( Like your headunit will say 50w x 4 ) That means you can connect 4 speakers of 50w and be OK. Speakers too low can get blown out or distort the sound badly at higher volumes and speakers too high will mean you will really have to pump the volume to be able to listen at a decent level. As for brand any of the popular and known brands should be OK. Since its a Kenwood headunit I would say go for Kenwood speakers and they could be better matched with the headunit. Pioneer is another good make for DIY car audio.
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    Wah Jignesh bhai, what an amazing video with the old times feel. Looks every part a relaxed drive as it was intended to be.
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    Thank you Carnity again for this not-so-adventurous adventure but so much fun!!! Looking forward to the next one. 😊
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    This is awkward, I am lost for words. Thank you Gaurav bhai for the great initiative and an amazing route and drive ending with a different kind of an adventure, loads of food and smiles on every face in our group. To top it all of what a wonderful trip report which takes me back to the drive and the moments that made the drive a successful one, with pictures which will stay ingrained in our memories forever. Thank you Girish Sir and Govind bhai for sharing the amazing pcs. We had a very young explorer and adventurer on our journey nic-named Happy and that about sums up the feeling within the group throughout our trip. Thank you to all for an amazing lunch which was so much and so well prepared that Gaurav bhai and I decided to just have a taste of everything, and I was so full that I barely had my dinner last night. At the end the choice was discussed with the group for the next adventure and a unanimous decision was reached which will be posted shortly. As described by Gaurav Bhai it is going to be a natural lake in the middle of the desert, which is completely different to the man-made lakes in Al Qudra area. It is the promise of a drive where normal saloons can go through and there are beautiful and slightly challenging dunes to satisfy those who have been bitten by the desert bug. Hope to see our regulars and many more on the upcoming scenic, plus off-road drive.
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    This is not a spy shot, this escalade is pretty famous in Dubai, surprised no one knows about it, it called the Yeezy car. It's supposed to resemble a pair of Yeezy sneakers by Kanye West. Belongs to a rich Emarati 14yr old kid Rashid from the Bel Hasa family. He also goes by the name of Money Kicks, also has a YouTube channel with that name where the escalade can be seen in many if his videos. Kid has a huge and very expensive sneaker collection as well as a private zoo in Al Aweer. http://media.dishnation.com/content/uploads/2015/06/yeezy-boost-350.jpeg
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    @Rahimdad Spot on... Patience is the key. This might sound a bit racist but I have noticed that the most impatient drivers that I've seen on the road are always the local Emiratis and the expats from the Arabic speaking countries. I mean no disrespect. They are perfectly nice people - very caring and very helpful. But the moment they get into the driver's seat, they're suddenly in Race-driver mode and they act like they're always in a hurry - even when they don't need to be. How do I know this? A couple of those people are friends of mine. Maybe it is a cultural thing, I do not know.. I've asked my friends many times about why they drive and behave like that, they just looked at me like I'm crazy. To them it is perfectly normal. Even your observations about driving in Europe is interesting. Yes, driving in Europe is certainly more civilized, but that is slowly changing I think. A friend of mine in UK was complaining about recently there are some people over there constantly tailgating and driving crazy on the roads. She managed to get 5 people to stop so that she can talk to them. All of them were people who migrated - Two Lebanese, one Egyptian, one Iranian and one Pakistani. The Pakistani guy grew up in Kuwait. For whatever reason people choose to tailgate or drive the way they do, it is clear that one person cannot make a difference. All we can do is drive as carefully, lawfully and respectfully as we can and hope that it gets better.
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    It is brilliant to see so many valid points of view, but one thing disappearing from this world is patience, and that stands true when it comes to driving also. I have been driving in the UAE since 1994, that is 23 years now and every year I find the patience is running out a little bit more than the previous year. Plus the different styles of driving from different parts of the world, the driving culture here is not the best, but with time and patience everything can be sorted. i was surprised when i was driving in Europe and I gave an indicator to come to the over-taking lane and the car in the over-taking lane slowed down to give me way, as soon as I completed over-taking the car and moved to the right the driver behind me speeded up and over-took me. In UAE if I indicate that I want to take-over, even if the car in the over-taking lane is 2-3 cars away from me, they would rush in not to give me way and opportunity to change my lane. It seems here that everyone thinks that the lane they are in is theirs and do not want anyone else to use it. Another example is I was on a red signal and while waiting an interesting topic came up and I lost track of when the signal turned green. Not a single person in behind me honked at me, one of my passenger's pointed out that signal was green and I moved out a little embarrassed from that incident. If I am in the same situation here, I would be honked at when the signal turns amber at the other junction asking me to race off as soon as our signal turns green. Simple equation is there is no more patience in driving. For instance, when I want to overtake, I so not use my high beam, from a distance I give my left indicator which is little less offensive and demanding and little more pleasing to the car ahead, and due to the distance he has time to move. If the indicator does not work, my next step is to use my high beam to make him aware that I need to over-take him, if that does not work either than I use my honk. i do all this from a little distance and do not tailgate any cars. As pointed out slow drivers in fast lane are a problem in UAE, but so are tailgaters. 2 wrongs never made a right. We should at least take a pledge among us not to tailgate anyone, and at the same time if we have place to give way to the car approaching behind us to overtake us. Someone has to start the right culture for it to catch on, lets us be the pioneers of a good driving culture in the UAE.
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    According to the tests i personally did with Ford Explorer, Mazda 3 and Honda Civic, Analog speedometers are the worsts!! I have digital and analog both in mazda 3 with hud display I drive at flat 122 with cruise and never get a flash, where ford explorer had to drive 124 to match up to my car, We used the same application i mentioned above in my comments to check the speeds, Honda CIVIC had to do 125 to achieve actual speed of 120. Yes you are right i don't understand this too, its actually manufacturers + car condition + age of the meter + tyres pressure and lots of things, I have digging this topic for a long time and there are alot of things which result in slow driving. I have adaptive cruise so whenever i get close to someone on the fast line the speed drops from 122 to 180 or sometimes 160 just to keep safe flat distance from the car which means the driver must be thinking he is going at 120 which he isn't so i get frustrated too that if you don't wanna drive move to the right, because at the same time I don't want to overtake from the hard shoulder the only option is to get close a little bit and cancel my cruise to let em know. and if its Abu Dhabi number plate i just overtake lol because they simply don't care.
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    I hate to say this, but this type of driving will not go away from U.A.E.; no matter what kind of fine is enforced or whatever device is installed. It is the mentality of the people that needs to change and that never will. This kind of driving has been the thorn on my side ever since I started driving and it has not gone away. I keep hearing about the many campaigns that the RTA and UAE Authorities have tried, none have been successful; except in making revenue for the departments. That too, not much. The Dubai is a nation of speed and the Emirati people are proponents of it, thus turning roads into race courses and much as they can. I've seen drivers pass speed cameras and speeds and show no sign of remorse or concern when the camera flashes. They continue, being caught by the other ones after. Upon seeing this boldness in breaking the law, one can only draw up two conclusions: They are so incredibly rich that they would gladly pay any fine. They have someone in the Police or RTA who is able to fix it for them. Probably some of the worst offenders and tailgaters are the ones from the capital, Abu Dhabi. I have never seen a car with a red and white number plate drive at the speed limit. It has always been way over and quite often tailgating someone. Its prompted a response that if you do see a car with a red and white number plate, you'd do well to park on the side and hide behind a tree. You're safer that way. If you think that tailgating happens only on the fast lane, think again. Its happened to me on even the slow lane. I'm driving at the speed limit and this guy was tailgating me and flashing me. I'm on the far right lane, where does he want me to go? It is irritating and frustrating. But that is something that we are going to have to accept. It is not going away. You cannot avoid it.
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    One of the best and most amazing trip we have done so far with carnity, too bad for the people who missed it as only 4 car made it for this wonderful drive, after 3 pulling out last minute. I am sure Jason got full attention to bond with his cherokee as closer to the end, his drive style has changed (for good) completely. After all Lisali to Qudra is not an easy track, but he managed to complete 2+ hour dunes with only single stuck at the beginning. Enjoy the pics, video will follow shortly.
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    The standard price for a mechanic here is 150 per hour. I was thinking of hiring out lift time for 100 per hour. With my usual 20% carnity discount, which would leave it at 80 per hour. A full day would cost 500 for Carnity members. The garage is all set up and ready to go. We just need customers. Tell your friends, tell your family, tell your grandmother she can change her own oil and @Barry will be on standby to help. Garage hours are 8-6 sat-thurs but out of hours can be arranged.
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    We missed you too @slick72 Apparently air-bag didn't deployed may be coz the vehicle angle was less than 90 degrees tilt (may 89.9 degree lol) due to sand or it may not be working at all. The switch for traction is very good idea if your vehicle is too irritating to not to let you spin the wheels (must for sand). In most of the Japanese and American it's not very strict as compare to UK and German cars. No idea about on switching off ABS. Switching airbags off seems to have a big trade-off to not to let them operate even when vehicle has a roll, I wouldn't choose to switch airbag off unless I am hitting super extreme drive where while cris-crossing angle may increase by 90 degree tilt (45 left + 45 right) in less than fraction of a second. Back to OP: For sharing the flip / roll info, I and rahimdad also never understood the real reason with so many offroad club we drove, but we never question to not to disrespect any club policy. While we had this small flip, we both agree to share for the sake of analyzing the situation and educating every off-roader whether they drive with us or with any other club. Understanding the risk involve is the only way to make people aware of adopting to use the best practice and drive safe and follow the convoy discipline and never underestimate the mother nature.
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    Hi Deepak. Give me a call after the weekend and I'll see about organizing the use of a lift for you. I might even make an appearance and help you 😉 With regards to painting underside components, a good scrub with a wire brush, wipe with thinners then hammerite brushed on is as good as anything. Rattle can paint looks good but it's not really a durable finish. If you want to be really flashy, you can disassemble everything and get it powder coated. This is what I used to do when I worked in the restoration business. As @derik said above though, rust isn't really an issue here in UAE. It's just surface rust, it rarely eats through things. Back home in Ireland it's a real pain in the ass. Every winter they treat the roads with salt to get rid of the ice. Salt is a major catalyst for rust. Come spring time, it's 2 months flat out welding older cars patching sills and wheel arches. As for rustproofing products, all I have ever used is Waxoyl. Bilt Hamber and Dinitrol also make alternative products but I have no experience of them. Pump it inside the chassis, sills and everywhere else. This is why vehicles have plastic rubber bungs in random places underneath, excluding the floor drains. Waxoyl is good but I don't think it would cope too well with an off-road vehicle here as the sand would scrub it off. What they used to do in the olden days is use waste oil. Brush it on thick all over the bottom of the car and the oil repels the water. It's not particularly durable, it needs to be done 2-3 times a year but it works. I can remember my grandad doing it on his Austin 1800 when I was a kid.
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    Very good point @derik after the drive on Friday Gaurav and myself started discussing on this topic with a hot cup of tea and samosa. I think @Gaurav bhai had it nailed down to the right school of thought. What do the off-road clubs offer to you as someone who wants to learn, some off-road trips and that is about it. If people come to know the number of roll-overs there are in that club than they would be deterred from joining that group. This goes deep in the core when there was only 1 parent club from which all these clubs have evolved. They never shared this information and thus the break away clubs maintained their experience and never wanted to show these kind of incidents in their club. Our next discussion was should we do it, why?, how it would help, and what will be the impact? I am sure these questions will pop into your mind also, so here goes: Yes we will discuss it. Why? We are not an off-road club, we are a car community where sharing vital information is important so that everybody gets to learn something out of this experience. It is not a platform on which we would like to name and shame people, and as human beings we all make mistakes. If we could learn from these and as seniors take the responsibility to share and educate people it is most important aspect of this activity. I hope I have answered your question and I would like to thank you for asking such and important and meaningful question.
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    There is only two things I like to add here after such a nice trip report and pictures by everyone: It was not only the driver's fault for the flip but also the extreme weather condition to be blamed for such an unfortunate scene. Sand storm made it difficult to read the dunes and rain made the sand harder from top to prevent the stuck, which resulted in a flip. By seeing the gopro footage (which is not very clear from a distance) I can see that driver wanted to follow the lead over a broad ridge and due to being too close he estimated that leader will take left or his car slided left, whereas leader has gone right. So to correct that immediate left to right on relatively soild sand (due to rain) car flipped on driver side. Secondly, unlike many other offroad clubs here in UAE we like to share and discuss these unfortunate situations to educate everyone to avoid same mistakes in future. Everyone should feel free to share and discuss these incidents in a healthy way to bring some valuable knowledge from which everyone can learn and enjoy this extreme sport carefully (no name and shame please).
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    Very humble of you @Barry. Thank you to @treks and @Barry for some eye opening information. This only goes to show I have a lot to learn from my knowledgeable friends here.
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    Buy a set, it's a one time investment which will pay for it self many times over. If you can change a tire you can change a spark plug.
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    Hey, check out this amazing item VLX 25 pcs Professional Socket Set, 1/2 inch drive VL425E for 150.00 AED on Souq.com App. Check out more deals @souquae or download the Souq.com App. http://uae.souq.com/ae-en/-12153503/i/?utmsource=Souq This isn't bad for the price and has 2 spark plug sockets in it. Extendable ratchet is nice too. We all have to start somewhere. Check out this handy guide I wrote too,
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    If you have a 4wd/4x4 vehicle and have never driven in the desert before, you have to take this opportunity. I was glad I joined the last one and learned a lot from the gents in this group. 4 thumbs up!
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    Hi Rahimdad , I will be joining this drive possible PAX my son and Wife .Please add us as tentative Deepak -+971 506026688 Drive / Ride safe ! Slick72 PS: I might pullout in the last moment , will inform if not attending ! Thanks for understanding
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    Here you go guys, video for last our Friday newbie drive:
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    I'm sorry I can't come to this drive but I will be on the next one !! Enjoy everyone, it's a factastic opportunity to learn from the experts how to prepare and drive your 4x4 in the desert. Jason
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    Im totally in.. as a passenger tho 0559799002
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    I have got this crap from small time shops too for my pajero obdII not compatible and they have to change the switch and I need to leave the car and pay 300 dhs. Took the car to barry expecting same story, and in one minute he found the right adapter and scan the car for free (in promo). Moral: If you go to big garage they have proper scanner that comes with loads of adapter to fit and these small shops must be getting cheapest obdII scanner with limited adapters. @Barry when next you are running free scanning promo for carnity members again...?
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    I seriously think onus is on the owner, as all petrol station here sells the most expensive (fully synthetic) to most cheapest (mineral oil) in all emirates. I remember when I had Cayenne turbo who needs topping up 1L every 1500 kms I used to buy fully synthetic oil from ENOC and never had any issues. Having said that, I do not get the oil change at any petrol station as I love one specific oil brand that I always stick to, it's kind of brand loyalty because whenever I put that in my car I can see the instant improvement from response, idle pinking, mileage and so on. I think barry reaction is of the interval more than the temperature rating to be honest, as outside temperature is only 25% of actual temperature inside the sump, in excess of 250 degrees. Second big thing is all owner MUST read and stick to car manufacturer specifications, as that's the best and safest way to keep your car happy. Once you know which type, then you can select the brand based on price vs experience vs convenience. I agree with desertdude that changing oil little early is much better than waiting for exact kms, as oil is so cheap and readily available that one should never ignore or delay that.
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    Not to say I disagree with everything you've said. I'll say I wont agree to everything you've said either. Once again as in most your post, you bring in your European sensibilities into the middle east. You being a professional should know first hand what is oils biggest enemy, heat. In a climate where its close to 50C for better part of the year, I don't think any oil will last close to 25k kms in this heat. As you know one of the reason why sludge forms is when oil gets over cooked Maybe in Europe and colder climates like up in N.Amerca and Canada where the temp hardly crosses 30C even in the hottest of summers and that also for a few days in year, you can have such huge intervals. As you you're self said consult your manufacturer and most manufacturers list such temps and dusty climate as extreme duty usage, sometimes cutting the oil interval changes in half. I remember reading this very thing in a VW owners manual I do agree that also consult you manual as to what grade of oil. I personally have seen people not put in cheap oil but expensive or good oil but of the wrong grade and mostly because thats what the official parts seller sold them as and many a times the dealer himself. And I think that is the biggest blunder that happens here. Putting in 30W oil at the peak of summer time, that oil is not going to last very long in this heat and dust. At the moment I wont name names here but I pretty much sure most know who I am talking about. One of our members work for a local oil company here and I remember asking him if all the specs mentioned on their cans are true or they just print them out on it with actually meeting those grades and specs for example API and SAE ratings. Unless you're buying oil which is cheaper than bottled water made in a shed somewhere in Saniyaistan from recycled old oil. I think you'd be alright with any decent brand, stick to the recommended grade and interval and you should be alright AND as I always say, oil is cheap but and transmissions arn't. IMO no harm done to an early oil change with right oil. How much extra you gonna spend in a year if you do, worth the extra peace of mind IMO And always before our valued internet warriors come crashing down on me, consider this, this is a still very debated subject, there are 1000s of pages on the interwebz on this, you can choose to be on whatever side you choose to be. This is just my own opinion and advise, as always free to accept it at your own risk and free to disregard it. Thanks From my cars manual
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    Set of 4 used: Twice Vehicle used: Land Discovery and Nissan Pathfinder Number of years used: 5+ Years Value for money: 5 / 5 On-road comfort: 5 / 5 Off-road performance: 4 / 5 Overall Performance: 4 / 5 Tires are one of the most important and integral part of your car. I have used Michelin Latitudes tires on my Jeep Commander 5.7 Hemi and Pirelli Scorpions tire on my Land Rover Discovery. I love both these tires equally with an inch extra respect for Michelin due to their softer side wall for extra road comfort and better sand flotation. While I was in market for tires for my Discovery, there were offer on Nitto I came across for our off-road club and to be honest Nitto tires were very competitively priced. After fair evaluation and considering my tight budget, I thought it was a good compromise to consider Nitto Dura Grappler for my Land Rover Discovery. This first set of Nitto Dura Grappler tires lasted me for 4 years for roughly 60,000 kms that includes on road and regular off-road driving every week. So in end I was very happy with this forcible compromise I have to make 4 years back due to budgetary constraints. The Nitto tires are made in Japan so it gives you that added peace of mind for your investment. I drove them for 4 years in all sorts of terrain: sand, wadi, rocks and road and here is what I think about the Nitto Dura Grapplers. On road they are really quiet and offer a very comfortable ride although their side walls are not as soft as Michellin, plus with the technology they call "Revolutionary Dura-Belt™ 3 Steel Belted Technology" that gives them good grip on the road in all weather conditions and avoids inconsistent ware of these tires. They lasted me 4 years with total abuse off-road, they always remained very smooth and quiet on-road and I felt confident having them on. My main concern however came how it does perform off-road being a highway terrain tire? The answer is simple, it was amazing as the straight threads of a highway terrain help them float better in the sands, although they seem a bit heavy (which is a bit negative mark from off-road side for stock cars). They served me very well for over 60,000 kms and I was very pleased with their overall performance. Recently I have changed my off-road vehicle from the Land Rover Discovery to a Nissan Pathfinder. And without a doubt I have got a second set of the Nitto Dura Grapplers again. I recently went to Liwa with my new set of tires, to test if they are still the same or not? The answer is mostly yes, they are still smooth, quiet and comfortable on-road even at 140 kmph and gives you good control with different maneuvers. This time however I found something different in off-road, that I have to deflate more in the sands. Instead of the 15 PSI that I used to drive it on, I had to go down to about 12 PSI. It did well for some time, but in the really soft patches the car sunk, what amazed me was that they have done something with the tire thread that pushes the car upward and takes you out of the soft stuff if you have your technique right. Even though the car would be lifted from its spot and move a bit then again bog down in the soft sand. The trip leader advised me to deflate it down to 10 PSI a couple of times, but I was hesitant to not to have a pop-out. Having to be pulled out on 2 occasions I decided to listen to my trip leader and deflated further down to 10 PSI. The result was amazing, I never got stuck again for the rest of my liwa trip, even in soft sand where it seem the car would just get stuck, I continued to push and felt the tire just found the smallest bit of traction that would keep the car moving and a lift upwards which just did the trick and did not allow the car to bog down. In conclusion I would only like to say, these are my second set of Nitto Dura Grapplers on 2 different rides, and if I was not impressed the first time around, this time it has surprised me with a change for the better. I am very happy to own the current set and feeling relieved that I have made a great investment for the next 4 years to come.
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    Recovery Gear Below is the most comprehensive list of all commonly used off-road gears and basic recovery tools - this is the stuff everyone needs and it has to be easily accessible at all the time, while driving in off-road terrain (Sand and Rocks). MANDATORY KIT AIR COMPRESSOR Bush Ranger Black Max, ACE @ Festival City. Also available Pro Air, Max AirII at different price points. ARB Air Compressors from ARB Abu Dhabi (call up and order, will deliver C.O.D) Chinese stuff at Dragon Mart - if you're feeling lucky. Other compressors at Carrefour/other Hypermarkets or car accessory shops are not really recommended. RADIO / WALKIE TALKIE Motorola, allegedly 20 mile radius, from the small Sabka shops Dhs.325 Dragon Mart, higher output (will fry your ears), cheaper, clearer. TOW ROPE / SNATCH STRAP Bush Ranger heavy duty tow (dhs.200 or so) or Pro snatch kit (Dhs500+) from Ace Viking rope from Robbie's Garage (to the left of Times Square, Shk Zayed Rd) Dhs265, I think. Kinetic Rope from International Trading Co. Opposite Everhot Water Heater - Al Qusais. SHACKLES Are available at ACE, 3.0 T to 4.75 T very reasonable rates, make sure you get the shackles with the screw and not the pin-type shackles. SAFETY FLAG - available from shops that sell Quads, alternately use Fishing Rods fastened with a bolt to the spare tyre rig, also available is the FireStik range at Robbies which is very expensive but very neat and professional). You may also want a gutter-mount for the same (if your vehicle has a rain gutter). SHOVEL Fancy chome-plated stuff rom ACE or other accesory shops - expensive & of debateable utility. Bushranger tri-fold shovel with its own cover - about as expensive, easier to carry. Regular construction shovel from a hardware or construction material store - Dhs.25 and much more effective but not so compact. Fiskars super-lightweight camping shovel. Most expensive but is also lightest (you want to carry sand, not metal!). I recommend this, but this is very budget-sensitive. BASIC FIRST AID KIT Available at all pharmacies, auto kits available at ACE and some specialized offroad joints, you can also put one together yourself or your vehicle may have one supplied with it. Should contain: Gauze (Large, Medium & Small sizes) Sticking Plaster & Adhesive Strips (Band Aid variety) Surgical Cotton Surgical Spirit/Antiseptic Basic medication/ointment for minor cuts and bruises Burnaid other burn treatment Scissors & Forceps Cotton Buds BASIC TOOLKIT + FIRE EXTINGUISHER + JUMP STARTER CABLES + USABLE STEPNEY HYDRAULIC JACK & STRONG WOODEN PLATFORM/PLANK (or HiLift Jack base) An alternative is the very expensive and equally heavy but neatly packaged Exhaust Jack Series II (dont buy Series I) from ACE, its upwards of Dhs.800. A Hi-lift jack is something a lot of people like to carry prominently like some sort of badge, but this is of doubtful utility in our really sandy terrain. Very useful in Wadis etc. DEFLATION KIT Valve remover for tyres - most tyre shops Dhs.10/- Pen-type pressure gauge (marked in PSI, not LbFt) - Dhs.25/- most car accessory shops. Other gauges are also available, the pen-type stuff is considered good. Use trusted brands like Milton, PCL, ARB, Victor, Rolson or Monkey grip. 4 Spare Tyre Valves to replace any lost while deflating. CAN FOR ADDITIONAL FUEL FOR LONG TRIPS Available from Ace Hardware, good for long distance trips where you are not sure about the petrol stations on the way, very handy in places like Liwa. YOUR VEHICLE SHOULD HAVE RECOVERY POINTS - FRONT AND REAR. OPTIONAL ADDITIONS Collapsible water can from ACE (Dhs.35 or so). Cool box with ICE (also useful for medical emergencies) and fluids of your choice (for more guidance, ask Kash). Cargo Net & Elastic Tie-downs to keep things securely fastened. GPS - Make sure it can store way points, record a track and pay the track back in reverse. Miscellaneous stuff that you should never need, but would want to keep handy - tire sealant gel/foam/goo, radiator leak-stopper (powder that you pour into your leaky radiator), exhaust leak fix (for small leaks, not cracked exhausts), flashlight, etc from ACE. Just to be on the safe side, one small 5 litre fuel can (Dhs.25 from any petrol station) and a manual siphon hose to borrow fuel from others (15-20 bucks). Duct Tape, Insulation Tape, Bush Knife/Pen Knife & Plastic Zip Ties. For camping trips - collapsible chairs/tents/sleeping bags/lanterns/BBQ kits/use your imagination. Small bottle of concentrated liquid Camp Soap or Dettol Hand Sanitizer + lots of Kleenex/tissue rolls. Working gloves to handle hot stuff in the engine bay + cloth/cotton waste. AAA or IATC Assistance as a sort of insurance for major breakdowns. Hope this helps. Please let us know if you need assistance or further information.
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    Thanks Rahim for this wonderful surprise as I myself have never visited this natural lake and heard a lot from hand full of people. People getting serious for regular off-roading please consider buying radio and inflator now at least as these two things are the first off-road gear you will need in every future off-road drive.
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    I look after a 4 year old HSE for a customer. In the past 8 months I've rebuilt the engine, two new front suspension units have been fitted, new front level sensor, new water pump, front lower arm bushes, rear wheel bearings, rear subframe bushes, front and rear drop links, 2 cv joint boots, new brakes all round inc discs and pads, fixed a problem where the dashboard said the bonnet was open when it wasn't. Someone else has rebuilt the rear differential at some point too. None of these were cheap repairs. This will give you some idea of what to expect in terms of reliability down the line. On the plus side, they are a comfortable vehicle to drive and you can play warning light bingo every time you go out.
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    @brandan 600 bhp from a 3.5 is nothing really. You could extract that from a 2.0 with proper tuning techniques. You'll need a big turbo but it is doable. If you guys are ordering food I'll have masala dosa please.
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    Asking which brand of oil is the best out of the three you mention, is like asking which colour of paint is best- red, blue or green. All three brands have both good and bad characteristics, and how well each works depends on the engine, driving style, fuel quality, environmental conditions (heat, dust, humidity), and how well the PCV system on that engine works. The best thing to do therefore is to try all three brands, and see which gives you the best fuel economy and throttle response. You may also find that the engine runs cooler with some brands of oil, so combine all these factors, choose the brand of oil that works best for you, and then stick to that brand and formulation.