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Hi @Foxtrot Oscar, can you add me to the wl pls? Thnks

Hi @Luca Palanca Falsini, missed my alarm, so won’t join the drive today 😭

Hi @Emmanuel and team, just want to post this video here (subscribed to this guy on Instagram) - how would you rate the difficulty of this dunes and drive? Also - can you recognize the place where it was taken in Abu Dabi? (could be a destination for one of the future extreme drives)

Short memories from the drive

Would be great to incorporate this wording into the standard meeting's announcement template

I borrowed this one for a weekend only. Mine will come by next weekends only 😬

Thanks @Srikumar and team, it was one of the best intermediate drive. A short video is on youtube

I've recently got this one as a second tripod. Surprisingly robust and strong for 18 AED(!!!), keeps good my Sony A7 with the lens. Extremely good for trips when you limited with weight and space, and when you unsure whether you will need a tripod or not https://www.amazon.ae/Flexible-Tripod-Octopus-Spider-Holder/dp/B07MJ3FHMC/ref=sr_1_4?crid=WNUQIUCII8OZ&dchild=1&keywords=tripod+flexible&qid=1613644812&sprefix=tripod+flex%2Caps%2C262&sr=8-4

Hi @sertac, please add my to the WL, 2nd drive

Hi @Emmanuel, sure, after promotion to IM I've done 4 intermediate and one Fewbie as a second lead, so 5 in total but 4 in IM

Great video, thanks Mohamed

We are in a unique situation here, in Carnity in the UAE. We have plenty of Jeeps - stock and lifted, with 285/70 and 315/70, we have many high sand dunes - so we can run a proper set of tests and even film it The aim of the test is ONLY to test the car's adherence to sand. It can be a dedicated drive - why not? The disadvantages of having big tires are clear and not questioning (however, it sims that with 285/70 has nearly none of them), people who go for big tires usually understand it and accept it as a price for a nice look I put 315/70 on my Sahara just recently (made it for a great look only, actually wanted to go to 305/70, but it was impossible to find them in the UAE). I had a strong feeling that the car easier drives on the sand (I am only talking about the adherence). BUT I can't exclude the placebo effect, that's why I am open to doing a comparison

Yes, wheels must be disassembled for installation, and these parts are quite heavy - so for sure

Installed these Fast Deflation tire vales - absolutely love it. In Formula Tires got them at 550AED with the installation Deflating the tire in 15 sec (I normally do 2 meausures to catch the correct pressure, but in any case it takes another 5 sec per tire)

@Rahimdad, I am not questioning the importance of skills (skills are much much more important than anything else), I believe this is why many of us here, to learn What I am saying is, that with equal skills in the equal conditions 35'' might be better than the stock ones for Wranglers. Because there are arguments supporting this and not, I proposed doing a test Also, big tires don't come alone, you normally do new suspension, shocks, etc.. so you can drive faster on bumpy areas, so you can get more momentum for the place you need it.. but this is one more time about driving technics and skills. I think the original topic was more about traction and adherence itself

As physics/theory of the phenomenon was described, the most correct and reliable way of the experiment would be exactly a set of short "laboratory" experiments, to eliminate the impact of driver's skills, etc. On the other side, conducting a real scientific experiment will not be easy, as usually with widens you also get a bigger overall diameter. So we actually don't know what factor's impact is growing faster, and in practice, we can only do a comparison between standard and large (wight + diameter) wheels. It seems to me that at least Wranglers perform better on upgraded 33", rather than on stock. On 35" without regearing you losing power significantly (I feel it very clear), so by default 33 can be better than 35, easily. But after regearing - not sure.

Would be great to have a clear experiment. We have a lot of Wranglers, with both stock and and upgraded tires. So we can shoose hill with no bumps (so driver can just drive), soft sand, same starting point, manual gear... Happy to be part of this excersise!

Please add me to the wl, second drive this week

A little bit of ridge riding shots here

A short video from the drive. Thanks to @Goutam and @Francois Germishuys, their shots where also used here

We are pumping, will be 10 min late based on the google maps. Is it still ok to join? If not - it will be of course well accepted

Hi @Foxtrot Oscar, is in not too late to join the drive?

Hi @Emmanuel I've done probably less than 5, but during last monthes I did a few serious drives + lifted my JLU + added larger wheels. Any chance to get into the drive?