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@asifk, @Ralph Geonzon, @siddharth maheshwari, @Nacho, @luwaimn, @Mahmoud Hamzawy, @sheri, @Jose Martin, @Najeeb Mohammed, @Jamy B., @Nizam Deen, @Chaitanya D, @Melenany, @Matti Brockman, @Colin Jordan, @Ale Vallecchi Please read and understand all the points below before joining off-road drives. With the current COVID-19 pandemic, we all need to be very responsible for our-self and others. To keep the briefing short, please go through https://carnity.com/brief before joining the drive. Adhere to all the COVID-19 Precautions for Carnity Offroad Drives STRICTLY. Bring your own walkie talkie, as we no longer share spare radios, even for absolute newbies. PLEASE ACKNOWLEDGE THIS POST BY CLICKING "TOTALLY AGREE".

I guess that's why Germans and Americans have move that bloody useless handbrake to different location.

You miss the word "RATED" For such strong or repetitive tugs (more than 3, after soft medium and hard attempt), we secure the rope with support assist rope to absorb any projectile.

@Colin Jordan another space open, please join now.

Hi Colin, by mistake you have liked and follow the drive instead of RSVP. Check your activity and you can see that too. https://carnity.com/profile/29305-colin-jordan Following - Drive on Monday 9:26 PM Reacted - Like on Monday 9:18 PM

I just gave my "points, feedback and opinion" based on my own little off-road experience "knowing or assuming" some people might have been "brainwashed or influenced" with "brand marketing campaigns or their friends/family". Same way we tell everyone that do not drive regularly all the time in LO gear, as per prevailing myth from thousands other off-road clubs who only focus on power than developing off-road skills. Still if some off-roader wish to drive in LO gear, it's their personal choice. I personally don't feel good or bad if you listen/not to any of these advices, but feel relieved that we have conveyed the message. Job done. @desertdude I have tested my ML 500 (V8), Porsche Cayenne Turbo (V8) and Range Rover Supercharged (V8) in dunes but all of them disappointed me in delivering the power on the right moment I want it because of the technological advancement they offer. Which year latest V8 have you tested in sand? 2003 Armada.....Anything after that.....? The only V8 that performs really well in the desert are the one that are designed for desert extreme use and not multipurpose use: Raptor, F150, Chevy pickups, etc.

Wish you a speedy recovery and get well soon. See you soon.

Have you tried WD40 and gentle push to see if something is jammed or stuck? For such job any body shop in Al quoz or Aweer, whichever is closer can fix it. If you are near Aweer, I can share two places with who I recently had good experience.

Add a rated D shackle for 50 Dhs from Ace Hardware.

I'm not an expert on suspension technologies and go much with my user experience. I had a rally bred Aragosta suspension with 18 settings on each wheel. Tried almost every god damn setting and never enjoyed that Patrol on road. On off-road as @treks mentioned at medium hard it was plenty for sand. So as a best rule of thumb, go all options mid way and then go backwards to understand what solves your need better. If you are trying to achieve OEM softness for road comfort then don't waste your time. Off-road suspension are made, shown and advertised splashing sand, jumping dunes as that's what they do the best - except road comfort on tarmac.

Good marketing pointers. If it's true then whey after massive sales drop Nissan brought back Y61 after 1-2 year gap. I never mentioned the weight is a constraint, but it might be for sure. It's the host of technological advancement - that scares, fails and disappoint people after spending over 200K. We have had in Carnity drive, Y62 failing to engaging the LO gear and then failing to get back into HI gear, and then eventually I have to winch that Y62 which was running on 2 wheel drive. After self recovering and coming on flat ground after few minute it engage back to HI gear again. Watch it once for fun sake to witness more Range Rovers, Raptor, G63 in the desert - which are far above Y62 price point. I salute and respect Nissan to adapt smart and honest way to sell apple by calling it an apple, rather than a bow and arrow. I assume, they must have tried calling it a bow and arrow but failed miserably so they have learned based on their experience to call an apple an apple. Well let's drive together for a year and then we can revisit these comments again. I had a Range Rover Supercharged with 510 HP and I know very well it's limitation and capabilities alike. It's not the numbers, weight or size always, it's the instant availability of those numbers at a right time. In most modern technological advanced vehicle computers overthink than humans and that's what create lot of differences in the experience what I want and what I end up getting with. Yes @Chaitanya D, you are absolutely right. Y62 is a beautiful vehicle as far as you understand it's limitations and learn to play with those rules, you will enjoy without spending tons on modification.

UHF radio is enough.

OK I have been silently reading this space and holding my temptation to not to spoil your fun or be harsh on your emotions, but keeping all my good man behavior aside, I strongly think you all need to face the truth to get out from a stage of denial. SORRY, in advance guys. Y62 and Y61 are """"""""DIFFERENT"""""""" Animals all together. Please do not compare sofa with a television, they both have different uses. Y61 in a completely stock state can do over 90% of all off-roading you can ever wish to do, provided you learn the real art of offf-roading. Remaining 10% things reserved for motorsport, dune championship and flying from one dune to another dune contenders - usually shown in insta, fb and youtube videos for stunts or for provoking you to empty all your pockets. Y62 with all the possible off-road mods will be at par or lower with Y61 in a stock state, because Y61 has been designed to do almost everything that a normal offroader want based on decades of research and development along with extensive testing in GCC. Now same goes for any dedicated stock offroaders too like FJC, Xterra, Wrangler etc. Now firstly all you Y62 owners ask yourself if you are among 10% or 90% of offroaders. If you are in 10%, then you have a wrong choice of car, look for rally bred homologated vehicle that you can tow in a trailer every Friday and beat her to death on every dune with extreme modifications. If you are in 90%, then focus on learning the off-roading first and then decide to work on real limitation of your Y61 or Y62. Y62 are inherently heavy, so no matter what version you drive with V8 - 400 hp, you are always struggling to manouver a chariot on small ridges, pockets, bumps and sharp dunes. Please IGNORE the biased reviews, police cars and mod company advertisement if you want the real truth, as none of them selling you any truth, they are just selling you a modified cars or mods to make your heavy beast a looker than a real off-roader. Did you know how many mods any country police car has and all of them are not street legal to catch the bad guys or to reach to difficult places. So stop looking at stars and walking on earth, you will damage your toe or a knee. For finding a real truth, next time you visit any good known desert look around and see what percentage of people driving Y62 with or without extreme modifications and you will get an answer. What will I do, If I am in your place. Keep Y62 for family fun, light offroading, camping, beach trip etc. Get 20K-40K AED bone stock used Xterra or FJC or Y61 or Wrangler and learn off-roading first and then spend a single dime after 3-6 months of offroad driving.

Hi @asifk welcome to Carnity and its off-road club. I really don't know any place outside DM who sells radio. I heard someone mention once Bur dubai mena bazaar but I don't know the exact shop or whereabouts. For DM you can call Noman +971 55 780 7590 and I think he told me last I visited that now they do deliveries as well. Worth checking with him (if I rem correctly). For compressor I highly recommend Bushranger, and have you checked the sale at ACE as they always run some great offers on bushranger compressor as people stopped buying these now because of 1/4 price from DM. I'm using bushranger since over 8 years and still kicking and inflating fine after every week off-road. You can click on Leave Event as admin might remove you from all drives, tomorrow.

Thanks @Chaitanya D for your expert inputs. We have planned and added new briefing pattern on the announcement post above. Hope everyone complies to it for everyone safety and hygiene.

I havent heard of Reese, but they look quite sturdy. Check the rating, that is important and quality of rating printed is with good amount of information and not just 9000000 LB, AMP, PMPO lolol.

Bushranger is reliable and seems rated from your image. Ramy is not a brand, instead a shop that sells thousand brand product. Dig deeper and find out which brand pin is that? Is it rated? Why ACE doesn't have the bushranger pin....?

Hope it's a rated one and not the fake stamp with dummy numbers, because if it break it will be very expensive to pay for the damages.

Join Carnity Offroad Club for an adventurous off-road drive in the Al Qudra Desert. Al Qudra Desert offers amazing broad and tall dunes in Dubai offering perfect learning opportunity for absolute newbies for their first time desert driving thrilling experience. If you have already driven in sand before then you can learn more from experts having decades of offroading experience in the UAE. This area offers a good mix of playable long set of dunes and broad ridge to test your off-road control. Drive is open for all 4x4/4WD/SUV/AWD vehicle having 8-10 inches of ground clearance and front and rear tow hooks. You can bring your family, friends and kids, but if you are absolute new to sand offroading it is better to drive alone first to learn offroading without any distractions. Drive will start with detail briefing, followed by 3 hours of driving in sand dunes and then followed by a break for feedback and assessment session for each offroader. WHAT YOU'LL LEARN? We will teach you how to drive your vehicle offroad safely and learn the best offroad driving and recovery techniques. Even if you have never driven in sand before, you can still join and learn the art of off-roading with complete confidence and peace of mind. If you have already driven in sand before then you can learn more from experts having decades of offroading experience in the UAE. This area offers a good mix of playable long set of dunes and broad ridge to test your off-road control. CAN MY VEHICLE DO IT? This drive is open for all 4x4/4WD/SUV/AWD vehicle having 8-10 inches of ground clearance along with front and rear tow hooks. Please check these two mandatory and VERY STRICT requirement before signing up. CAN I BRING PASSENGERS? Yes of course, but if you are an absolute new to offroading it is better to drive alone first to avoid any distractions. WHAT CAN I EXPECT? The drive will start with a detailed briefing, followed by 2-3 hours of driving in sand dunes and then followed by a break for refreshments over a feedback and assessment session for each offroader. You will learn about the following subjects: Introduction to off-roading Desert driving basics and etiquette Desert driving tips, techniques, myth and best practices Off-road and safety gear familiarization and recovery procedures Vehicle orientation, risk analysis, deflation and outdoor safety advice WHAT ITEMS SHOULD I BRING? On your very first drive with us we only ask you to bring your enthusiasm and willingness to learn. From a second drive onwards we ask you to start collecting the Essential Tools as per below attachment. More information on these items can be found in the advices section and in offroad club. If you already have the off-roading gears, then it's better to carry them along to help you learn off-roading at a faster pace. ARE YOU JOINING US FOR THE FIRST TIME? Introduce yourself on this drive thread. Share with us your vehicle details. Prior off-road experience (Yes/No) Confirm 8-10 inches of ground clearance along with front and rear tow hooks in good usable condition. RSVP the drive calendar LIMITED SPOTS AVAILABLE: Limited to 15 members only. RSVP will close on Thursday. Latecomers will be returned back - without ANY EXCEPTIONS. Members without RSVP will be returned back - without ANY EXCEPTIONS. Please withdraw your RSVP, if you aren't joining, so your spot can be taken by others. Repeated no-show members after RSVP will have their account suspended for a month. Level: Absolute Newbie, Newbies and above (All level) When: 20 Mar 2020 Meeting time: 01:30 PM (SHARP - Without any exceptions) Meeting Point: Al Qudra https://goo.gl/maps/FbLs4vy99taAEzbTA Type of Car: Any proper 4x4 with front and back tow hooks and 8-10 inches of ground clearance. What to bring along: Loads of water, snacks, smiles, stories, enthusiasm and willingness to learn. Approximate finish time: 7:00 PM MUST READ: First off-road drive checklist Off Road Driving - Roles & Responsibilities Off road Driving Etiquette's Off-road Convoy Rules Off roading - Everything you need to know Off roading - Newbie brief Please RSVP on the below calendar:

Finally we have done the first ever Carnity drive on Saturday, thanks to all those who kept on asking on social media. I gather the courage to post a first test-out drive for Saturday and to my surprise we have had full house within first 3 days - 15 cars. After that I kept on getting messages for allowing 1 more car and 1 more car repeatedly. As per the new convoy restriction from safety aspect, we all are supposed to keep the count to max of 15 cars in any single convoy. Irrespective of that, still few people made on meeting point and they just got lucky as few others didn't show up, which gave a chance to balance the equation fairly. As it was an absolute newbie drive without a single absolute newbie, so I decided to bump up the level after first 30 minutes and to my surprise everyone managed very well and we all had plenty of roller coaster dunes, steep drops and side sloping in play area for fewbie and above level members. By 5 PM we have reached the pylon track and started our final climb to Fossil rock to enjoy the breath taking sunset view with a best desert landscape for our selfies. Before 6 PM all cars made on top of fossil rock except one, our dear friend @Alexander Sarte as his trusted Toyota 4runner decided to give up half way up the climb. There was no sign of engine overheating or any other mechanical damage or accident but just it wasn't moving in any gear. We tried shifting to Lo and High but gear wasn't engaging and kept on making grinding noise as soon as we drop in D or any other gear. With sunset almost there, we decided to split the team. @Xaf and @Ale Vallecchi started to help Alex by pushing the 4runner to flat ground as Xaf explained above. On the other side, @Shamil helped me in moving rest of the car from fossil rock drop and we manage to reach the tarmac just before it gets dark. After this test of time, we both rushed inside to coordinate efforts with others to get 4runner out to pylon track. Ale and Xaf did a wonderful job of doing the safest recovery as much as they could do and then stopped for sketching a new route. This approach is very important while doing any extreme recovery that every move you make should be well calculated and not based on emotions, aggression or chances. Once we joined them Ale showed me the path and we went ahead to correct a little and chalk out all options of our success rate to reach out. We analyse all options and gave all option to Alexander to choose: Call your mechanic to inspect or fix on site Call AAA desert recovery to tug vehicle out We tug the vehicle out but in case any of our car get damage due to extreme recovery then Alexander will be responsible for that damage. Although we have same thing written in our roles and responsibilities here, but before carrying out such extreme recover that has 50% success rate, it was important for us to mention this in advance. With Alexandar level headed approach, he decided to leave the car inside, Shamil was kind enough to drop them home and later Alexander came back with his mechanic in the night, which I assume didn't went well. Today afternoon, he got the car out with the help of AAA recovery experts and more we can hear from him, whenever he is free to share more updates. @Xaf I can understand your feeling but I think what Alexander did was the wisest decision to not to take a chance and let professional recovery experts handle the situation. Moving a dead weight of 2 ton vehicle over 2-3 km of dunes is extremely risky and complicated with our limited resources in hand and at night time. Of course such situation is not an every day story, sometime taking back few steps is a very good move, eventually. I hope his 4runner get repaired soon with least amount of downtime and expense.

Please share your previous desert driving experience here and we do take self declaration very positively. Based on your previous experience, trip lead might consider your participation.

Mirror finish reflecting the garage roof.

Not safe distance between white pajero and your patrol, you could have pulled over little earlier when you have seen the white Pajero stopped. Stopped on slightly inclined than on flat ground, which made it difficult to move up again. Pay 100% attention to close vicinity before you stop as you have completely missed the dip on right side where you hit the bumper. You could have reversed out if car had a refusal to climb up than going side ways which is not a part of the track that entire convoy took. If you knew that dip on right and if you still have to go through it, no matter what, could have taken that dip with very slow speed. Irrespective of all above "minor" mistakes, your bumper design, material or angle is not perfect for such use. Research more on the best ways to avoid such damage and get the strong bash plate and skid plate.