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Hi Andrew, Great to have you on board. You'll see the solution I installed for the rear scoop bumper tomorrow. Removal is challenging because it leaves a lot of exposed metal that the testers don't like. Anyhow, looking forward to seeing you ... we may just about let the F150s and Prado spoil the fun! See you soon in the sand.

Looking like we will have quite a Pajero party (except for the F150's) Friday. Thanks for the update.

@Mo. @Ashhad Siddiqui Thanks for signing up for the drive. Please can you share with us the following information: Your car and any modifications you made Your off road experience if any What you want out of driving with a 4x4 club. Please make sure you do check out the videos and tutorials designed for first time drivers before arriving and make sure you have the 4x4 gear required for the drives. Myself and Alex look forward to meeting you on Friday. See you soon in the sand.

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Hi Asad, Thanks for that. I am surprised that the Prado has no rear tow hook as standard. The short term solution is to use a hitch receiver onto which a shackle can be affixed. We cannot use a ball (like you use to tow a vehicle), but a hitch point will work https://www.aceuae.com/en-ae/bushranger-recovery-hitch-hooks-with-shackle-silver/285633.html?gclid=Cj0KCQiAnuGNBhCPARIsACbnLzr-XS5sTyed5Ql50-C0i4RUfCRwEkn1f5vYuG0cakpAAuw_yb0CSQ8aAjMDEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds If there is no rear towing point, we cannot let you drive, because the risks are too high to your vehicle of towing from a different point.

Don't worry I will do that when we meet. #pajerolife

Hi @haridas kt that's great. No mods needed for the first drive, that's for sure, but if you do it, it cannot harm your drive. I drive a Pajero - so I think you have the perfect vehicle! We cater in this drive especially for first time drivers, and desert exploration is what we are about, so good to have you on board.

@takeshi sobue The drive you signed up for is Absolute Newbie - you did this already, so I am afraid you will be signed out of the drive. There is a space on this drive @haridas kt @Andrew McCarthy @Swaroop K.R Thanks for signing up for the drive. Please can you share with us the following information: Your car and any modifications you made Your off road experience if any What you want out of driving with a 4x4 club. Please make sure you do check out the videos and tutorials designed for first time drivers before arriving and make sure you have the 4x4 gear required for the drives. Myself and Alex look forward to meeting you on Friday. See you soon in the sand.

Drive in D at all times. Never had an issue, no upgrades at all. Mine is SWB, which clearly makes a big difference.

Join us to explore Al Qudra Desert to find what's beyond Qudra lakes And learn the art of offroading in a versatile playground for your first off-road adventure. You will learn to self-drive your vehicle from experts having decades of off-roading experience in the UAE. This area offers a good mix of playable long set of dunes and broad ridges to practice your off-road skills slowly but surely. Drive is open for all 4x4/4WD/SUV/AWD vehicles having 8-10 inches of ground clearance and (MANDATORY) Front and rear tow hooks (MANDATORY) This is an off-road drive for beginners where you'll drive and learn at your own pace: This is not a training session. This is not a 1:1 teaching class. This is not a Desert Driving Course. If you are interested in comprehensive 1:1 training sessions, please check Desert Driving Courses. Desert Driving Masterclass Desert Recovery Champion Advance Desert Driving Course First time with Carnity Off-road Club: Please share your vehicle details - Make, Model, Year. Do you have any prior off-road experience? Confirm your vehicle has front and rear tow hooks / eyelets. Learn More About: Carnity Off-road Club STRICTLY: For ABSOLUTE NEWBIE who are driving for the first time with Carnity. MUST WATCH: NEWBIE VIDEO BRIEFING Important links to read: Off road Club Grading Structure V.3.0 Frequently Asked Questions - Click and scroll down. How do I join? Is my car fit for off-roading Many more FAQ's - ANSWERED. Mandatory Safety Requirements Essential Off-road Gear Ultimate Compressor Review Transfer your previous off-road experience Drive Details Level: Only for "ABSOLUTE NEWBIES" or first timer with Carnity Off-Road Club When: 17 Dec 2021, Friday. Meeting time: 7:00 AM (SHARP - Without any exceptions) Meeting Point: https://maps.google.com/?q=24.818832,55.255631 Type of Car: Any 4x4/4WD/SUV/AWD with front and back tow hooks and 8-10 inches of ground clearance. What to bring along: Tire deflator, pressure gauge and compressor, Loads of water, snacks (for yourself), face mask, rubber gloves, enthusiasm and willingness to learn. Approximate finish time: 11:00 AM LIMITED SPOTS AVAILABLE: Limited to 12 new members only. RSVP will close on Thursday - 5PM. If the RSVP is full and you wish to join, please mention your name on the drive thread to add on the waiting list Latecomers or members who are not on the RSVP will be returned back - without ANY EXCEPTIONS. Please cancel you RSVP if you cannot make it, so your spot can be taken by others. Please RSVP on below Calendar

Post Drive Report Liwa YT #2 Waking up inside my condensation filled tent on Thursday morning I was filled with a little trepidation of the drive and day to come on what would be my 2nd lead into Liwa in search of the Yellow Truck. I should not have worried. With a fantastic convoy and support, we completed the drive in less time than I expected and without incident - a blessing for all, as it meant that the day was not extended to the point where drivers are too tired to continue to concentrate, and we had such wonderful smooth running that the people on this convoy are probably asking 'what's all the fuss about?'. My first call out is going to the amazing support team. First on what list is @Thomas Varghese. I asked Thomas to play the role as sweep for the day. He has massive experience, so I knew his drive ability already. What I saw was a fantastically supportive, balanced and enthusiastic support throughout the day. We benefitted from the fact that at the back of the convoy no-one was left behind, that the drivers at the end knew there was help nearby if anything happened and we did not have a lot of radio chatter so everyone could focus on the task in hand. @Richard Franks has been my 2nd lead before. I knew I could trust him to follow where needed and find another way if required. In these drives that is not the easiest of tasks, but Richard managed to reroute when I came across the recently born camel and her mother and after I had driven into the only impossible to escape from bowl of the day. Other than that, Richard faithfully and expertly led the convoy leaving me to focus on navigating the best possible route forward. While it was not the busiest day for support, @Alain Canivet-Abikhalil demonstrated once again his immense value on a convoy. It leads to a question: Does Alain ever lose his cool? Probably not. Even though he had spent 6 hours in recovery mode the day before, this was also a flawless performance. The rest of the guys on the convoy @Damien Ranjit @ShereenMK @Alphin Aloor @Nabeel Abdul Rahman & @Alexanderrr you were amazing. You were the first Carnity convoy to see the revised Yellow (not so Yellow UAE 50th flag) Truck. Because of the incredible skill you showed, the additional time that I factored in on the drive for refusals and recoveries, was simply not needed.. Never under estimate your achievement in driving this route, through some of the softest sand patches we face, the star shaped technical dunes, climbs to the top of dunes and descents to the bottom as anything other than magnificent. Truly, I was surprised at how quickly we made it through the drive. And, as I say, we could have pushed harder, of course, we could have added a few more climbs and descents, or play bowls: but let's put that into the context of the day. The two other convoys that were from Carnity that left with us both had to return to the start because of mechanical failure of one of their vehicles. Neither made it to the main road before it was dark. You also benefitted from the recce drive I had made the previous day ... because we could increase the pace significantly as I knew where we were headed. For me, it was a perfect 50th Anniversary drive, because I could claim to have gone to one of the iconic UAE 4x4 locations, witness the transformation of the Yellow Truck into the Yellow UAE Flag Truck and still get home to Dubai to enjoy an evening of National Day celebrations. You can't ask for more than that. See you soon in the sand.

Post Drive Report Liwa Yellow Truck What a day! Any Yellow Truck drive is an accomplishment that cannot be under estimated. Control, concentration, composure and guts are needed to cope with this as a first time drive - moreso, when your lead has only been there once before and that as 18 months before. This was a Rock Solid Crew day: Everyone on this convoy was fantastic, throughout. @Pacific your 2nd lead was impeccable. Adjusting and leading the convoy away from the moments where I got stuck (two in particular were excellent). I really appreciate the support that you brought to the front of the convoy. @Niki having your calm, encouraging, insightful support MUST have made every recovery easier for the few times it was needed. Your driving was immense, taking everything in your stride and apparently enjoying every second. Your energy incredible and infectious. @Jeepie Is the inly one who knows quite how terrified I was of heights (well to be accurate, it's not the heights it's the rapid deceleration on landing that scares me, the falling but is OK). Not only is it a pleasure to know you're there on a drive supporting and keeping everything tidy, but sharing the experience (albeit in different cars) was fantastic. The convoy @Vaibhav, we are waiting for the photos and the drone video, @Waqas Parvez you proved why the promotion you requested was justified - in spades - @Daniel Rodas 2nd drive in 2 weeks and I really want to see more of what you can do, @AlexM strong, quite silent, but deadly effective. Bottom line, you were brilliant. Managing to get to and from Yellow Truck without more than a few refusals among the convoy cannot be underestimated. You don't get there and back without having had to drive through numerous challenges and obstacles. As I think was explained by Pacific, this was an intermediate drive in terms of challenges, driven at fewbie speed. As an exploration drive, I think that we covered as much of the Liwa experience as possible. Massive climbs, making Faya look miniscule, massive descents, dwarfing Fossil Rock, some play in bowls (but not much, admittedly), and high technical sections. For me, the challenge was overcoming my fear of heights - yes, the Liwa lead, where the drive is all about massive descents has a problem with that - but your patience and trust in my leadership got me through, and we all got through safely, carefully and with having had a challenging long day out. I factored in much more recovery time in my drive plan - which in the end we did not need, so had the pleasure of exiting in daylight and people being able to return home while it was still light. Maybe next time out, we can go and play more on the bowls and have more aggressive challenges, but by then you are already an old hand in Liwa. And you can say what a lot of people cannot: you made it to Yellow Truck, and out. Thanks for everything guys. I am really proud that I got to share my first proper Liwa lead with you. See you soon in the sand.

The great news for you Paolo is Alain and me will be looking to you to assist on recoveries on the drive. So bring your biggest shovel.

Dear Liwa Leaders, AlexM @AlexM Vaibhav @Vaibhav Pacific @Pacific Daniel Rodas @Daniel Rodas Waqas Parvez @Waqas Parvez Some additional housekeeping for our drive. niki @Niki will be our centre forward (as he will be the most rested person on the drive Jeepie @Jeepie will sweep - a much more critical job than usual because of the fact that rerouting here or returning is so challenging Pacific @Pacific will be taking on the 2nd lead role as the next most experienced driver on the convoy. It's likely that the convoy in between will then be: @Vaibhav (3) @AlexM (4) @Daniel Rodas (6) @Waqas Parvez (7) We will decide on radio channel in the morning based on what other convoys are using. Get a good night's sleep. We will be leaving at 7.30, so don't be late. See you soon in the sand.

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Hi Kiran, Well done. Yes, you must have hit the wrong button. That's fine and enjoy your drive on 2nd.

Please make sure, Thomas to add yourself in the RSVP. I still do not see you name.

Hi Richard, Thanks. That's great. Knowing we have one on the drive is useful as it helps me in thinking about responsibilities and convoy position. I would advise a 20L can, just in case. Last year in LIWA on our TJ (SWB) we were completely out of petrol by 3.30pm. We would not have got out of the drive without additional gas (20L - but I think that the tank on the TJ is only 55L. You can always fill by the side of the road if you don't use it in the desert.

Dear Day Two Liwa Wanderers Alexanderrr @Alexanderrr Richard Franks @Richard Franks andy_macdxb @andy_macdxb Damien Ranjit @Damien Ranjit Michel Van Woudenberg @Michel Van Woudenberg Alphin Aloor @Alphin Aloor ShereenMK @ShereenMK PaoloMaraziti @PaoloMaraziti Thomas Varghese @Thomas Varghese Welcome to the drive - you all made it this far. To make sure you make it to the start line, please do read carefully the post above. We will be checking all cars before we leave. Once into Liwa, there is no easy way out like on our normal Friday morning drives. So, please, come prepared. It's a long way back to anywhere if you find that you cannot drive once you are at the start line. As I am driving the Fewbie drive on Wednesday, this will be my 2nd Liwa lead and I hope to use some of the learning from day one into day two. But let's not kid ourselves. For a first time driver in Liwa, this place is immense. The size and scale of the dunes is massive. Descents off the top of a crest can be 100meters and more - which means that there is no way back as a reroute so we need to be sure everyone is driving with care and concentration throughout: especially me! We will not, however, be driving at breakneck speed and trying to claim every dune - but making sure we enjoy the majesty and grandeur of this place. Even with the great support we have on the drive in @Alain Canivet-Abikhalil we will need to be looking out for each other and being prepared to get involved, or not, when required. I'll cover that in more detail once we are all in place at the start of the drive, and set the convoy numbering at that time in case someone does not make it for what ever reason. For those of you pondering, should I camp the night before or drive up in the morning? Let me put is this way ... If you think that you will be a great team member to the other drivers in your convoy having got up in the middle of the night, driven hundreds of kilometers before arriving at the start of the drive and then started a 10 hour drive in the heat of the desert, before you even think about driving hundreds of kilometers home, then feel free to do what you think is right. One question, just in terms of preparation: Please let me know if any of you has a winch. That just helps us in deciding where the convoy positions could be. Other than that, look forward to seeing you all on Thursday, bright eyed, and bushy tailed. See you soon in the sand.

Dear Liwa Wanderers, kiranshinde @kiranshinde AlexM @AlexM Vaibhav @Vaibhav Pacific @Pacific Daniel Rodas @Daniel Rodas Waqas Parvez @Waqas Parvez Welcome - we are the Fewbie team for the drive on Wednesday. With the support of @Jeepie and @Niki it looks like we have a great day of adventure before us. A word of caution: This will, in some ways be an exploration drive. I did not yet lead in this area so we need to be prepared for anything that might come our way. Housekeeping - please look at the post above. It's essential your vehicle is in good condition before we leave. We will be out the whole day, there are no easy and quick exit routes, like in other drives. Once you're in, you're in. It will be grueling on car and driver, and the sands in the Liwa area are deceptive. There are humungous dunes and long descents. If someone is at the top of a dune that we descended with a problem, we cannot quickly and easily reroute and come back. That's why we are so lucky to have the support on this drive we do. It will instill confidence in me to know that there are such experienced drivers in the convoy. I will be deciding on the final convoy order on the day of the drive, depending on whether there are people that don't make it to the start and identifying the best position in the convoy for everyone. PLEASE - if one of you has a winch, let me know. It's good to know this from the outset in case it's needed and that also helps determine where you might be in the convoy. Otherwise, Liwa, Yellow truck is almost a right of passage drive. The sights we get to see are quite stunning so bring your cameras. We will be stopping for photo breaks and food breaks when needed as well as taking a bit of time out just to enjoy the nature around us. We will also hopefully get to see the rare black racing Camels in the farms we pass on the way in (for anyone wondering they are actually native Australia). Please post any questions you have here. Otherwise, see you soon in the sand.

Looks to me like we can add @PaoloMaraziti and @Thomas Varghese to this drive.

1. Please ensure that you are there at the meeting point on 7:30 AM sharp. Late comers would be sent back. 2. Firstly, get lots and lots of rest the previous day. The more the better as Liwa will not only challenge your vehicle but your mind as well. We would need your complete focus and fatigue due to less rest is the last thing that is needed on such a terrain. For those who prefer camping the previous night, you can do so at the starting point as its a nice spaced out area. Bring some firewood incase if you wish to have a bonfire to keep you warm. Cleaning up after the bonfire is mandatory. 3. Ensure that your 4x4 is well serviced recently and all the lubes and fluids are topped up. 4. 20 Liter / 40 litre fuel jerry can is needed depending on your vehicle. If you have any doubts, please post your query on the drive post and we will assist. 5. A full fuel tank at the meeting point. 6. Spare tyre should be in good working condition. If not been used recently, ensure that you take it out and check the condition properly. Also ensure that you have the wrench that can be used to remove your tyre (if needed). In the past we have seen that people upgrade their tyres but still keep the the original wrench which is of no use to remove the upgraded tyre. So please ensure that your car has the right tool to remove the tyres (if needed). 7. Air compressor, proper shovel, flag, fire extinguisher, first aid kit, 8. Fully charged radio (tuned to all Carnity Frequencies) with spare battery / radio. If you have a car charger for your radio, please bring it along. 9. Please ensure that you know how to switch off traction control (turning off Air bags is not mandatory for this drive). If it requires pulling the fuse, please research before the drive or better still, post your queries on this drive post and we would assist. 10. Car charger / battery pack for your mobile. 11. Plenty of water, approx 5 litre per person per day. 12. Bring along your breakfast, lunch, snacks, etc in easy to eat packing. We shall be having breaks in between the drive. 13. Dry food, energy bar, cookies, nuts, crisp to munch while driving 14. Bring garbage bags along to carry your trash. Littering in the desert is strictly prohibited.

1. Please ensure that you are there at the meeting point on 7:30 AM sharp. Late comers would be sent back. 2. Firstly, get lots and lots of rest the previous day. The more the better as Liwa will not only challenge your vehicle but your mind as well. We would need your complete focus and fatigue due to less rest is the last thing that is needed on such a terrain. For those who prefer camping the previous night, you can do so at the starting point as its a nice spaced out area. Bring some firewood incase if you wish to have a bonfire to keep you warm. Cleaning up after the bonfire is mandatory. 3. Ensure that your 4x4 is well serviced recently and all the lubes and fluids are topped up. 4. 20 Liter / 40 litre fuel jerry can is needed depending on your vehicle. If you have any doubts, please post your query on the drive post and we will assist. 5. A full fuel tank at the meeting point. 6. Spare tyre should be in good working condition. If not been used recently, ensure that you take it out and check the condition properly. Also ensure that you have the wrench that can be used to remove your tyre (if needed). In the past we have seen that people upgrade their tyres but still keep the the original wrench which is of no use to remove the upgraded tyre. So please ensure that your car has the right tool to remove the tyres (if needed). 7. Air compressor, proper shovel, flag, fire extinguisher, first aid kit, 8. Fully charged radio (tuned to all Carnity Frequencies) with spare battery / radio. If you have a car charger for your radio, please bring it along. 9. Please ensure that you know how to switch off traction control (turning off Air bags is not mandatory for this drive). If it requires pulling the fuse, please research before the drive or better still, post your queries on this drive post and we would assist. 10. Car charger / battery pack for your mobile. 11. Plenty of water, approx 5 litre per person per day. 12. Bring along your breakfast, lunch, snacks, etc in easy to eat packing. We shall be having breaks in between the drive. 13. Dry food, energy bar, cookies, nuts, crisp to munch while driving 14. Bring garbage bags along to carry your trash. Littering in the desert is strictly prohibited. My advice is that for safety, it's not the best idea to drive up, then drive 10 hours in the desert, then drive home. Your choice entirely, but I would not do that. I will be camping.