Mike M. Posted April 22, 2025 Author Share Posted April 22, 2025 On 4/20/2025 at 9:49 PM, Aser said: I voted for "what I'd like to do" (outdoorsman/overlander) but what I really do is kind of dune basher... due to multiple factors like lack of free time, not having a group of friends interested in the same etc. 😅 Well now at least you have an idea some of the club members who share the same preferences when the weather gets better. "Out there in the sand, engines roaring and tires grinding, it's not just the terrain we tackle — it’s where friendships are forged, one trail at a time." On 4/21/2025 at 8:36 AM, Frederic said: Fantastic topic, and a good opportunity for some self-reflection. As much as i love a brisk pace to carve our way through pristine dunes, i am only really at ease when i can navigate and have the time to observe the terrain and "get lost in time". There is something about the undulating terrain, the way the sand crumbles and shifts, and how the car engine noise and throttle provides the perfect soundtrack. Just like @Aser, time is my main enemy, otherwise i would prefer long overlanding treks in UAE and abroad. Two years ago we spent 12 days on the road in Oman, and i still look back at it as being one of our best vacations ever. I have Oman Salala in my To Do list...Just need to plan it right 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike M. Posted April 22, 2025 Author Share Posted April 22, 2025 (edited) On 4/21/2025 at 10:38 AM, Gaurav said: I've chosen the title "Dune Basher," but truthfully, I prefer to think of myself more as a "Dune Navigator." I've ventured into various off-road adventures—overlanding, mountain exploration, and long-distance drives—but ultimately, my passion remains firmly rooted in the dunes, and there are several compelling reasons why: With overlanding and extended road trips, despite our heart's genuine desire for adventure, practicality inevitably intervenes. After some time on the road or off-road, creature comforts like a proper washroom, a cozy bed, fresh and clean food, ice, large screens, and familiar music all beckon, drawing us back home. In contrast, dune driving presents an exceptionally dynamic, versatile, and endlessly engaging experience. Each drive into the dunes offers a fresh and unpredictable journey. I find navigating the dunes particularly exhilarating, much like solving an infinite puzzle. The dunes constantly present new choices—paths we can confidently take and those we must skillfully avoid. This fluid and intuitive form of navigation excites me a lot, enabling me to lead drives effortlessly, even when I'm tired, sleepy, or sloshed. The challenge and thrill of identifying the best lines across the sand offer a unique form of pleasure, one that deeply resonates with my love for exploration while maintaining harmony with nature and respecting its delicate ecosystem and rules. Moreover, each dune crest reveals a breathtaking and unique viewpoint, an unbeatable reward exclusive to this form of exploration. These ever-changing views from atop each dune are truly irreplaceable, adding an exceptional dimension to every journey and making the experience irresistibly captivating. Dune navigation also offers significant additional benefits compared to overlanding: Quick and spontaneous adventures: You can head out for a few hours or an entire day, making it easier to accommodate a busy schedule. Lower logistical burden: Fewer preparations and supplies are needed, making dune trips more accessible and less cumbersome. Skill enhancement: Dune navigation significantly improves driving skills, reflexes, and decision-making abilities, which are less intensely tested in overlanding. Social bonding: The dynamic and collaborative nature of dune navigation fosters stronger camaraderie and teamwork among fellow enthusiasts. These added benefits further solidify dune navigation as my preferred off-road pursuit, offering unmatched excitement and convenience. Thanks for taking the time for an elaborate answer @Gaurav. I completely hear you on the passion and the joy from Dune Navigation. I was sharing with @Frederic the other day, now that i am in a position where i have command and control over desert driving and acceptable navigation skills (still a lot to learn but you get the point i am sure), the feeling of being able to pick a location visually and put the pieces of the puzzle to get there is a Priceless sense of freedom! Plus it gives such a rewarding feeling once mission accomplished. Yes, Solo driving is a big No No but i think it is the best school and knowledge accelerator at the same time, once the basics are acquired. As for the word Bashing, I am not sure if it came from American English or British English as they differ in meaning depending which language you use. In American English, Bashing means a hard blow which i understand why you prefer the word Navigation instead. As for the British meaning of Bash, it means attempt. so attempting to navigate the dunes would be called Dune Bashing in British Engish Finally, my only 2 cents on the comfort of home being compelling, i fully agree with you and this is why after every trip i do a lessons learned on what to improve in the experience for next time. After a few of these exercises, i am willing to have a wager that the shower experience today has a better water pressure and overall experience than most Dubai homes and the same applies for the rest of the experience. You have to take my word for it I guess I am sure every offroader has a mix of the 3 profiles in them but there is always one that is stronger than the other 2 and there is nothing wrong with that. We all enjoy the trail and the outdoors and that is the common denominator with us all. Hope it was not too poetic On 4/21/2025 at 10:56 AM, Luke K P said: Where is my wolf @Luke K P ??? The Outdoorsman. This is utter discrimination! 19 hours ago, Abhishek Chikara said: This is a fun topic. For me, it's definitely dune bashing by a big margin. There's something nice about hearing the engine roar as you climb a dune (especially the raptors with that exhaust), or feeling the car shift and slide as you switch ridges. The adrenaline rush and the bursts of intense focus are what make those early weekend mornings so exciting. I'd love to get into overlanding someday, but the lack of time—and not having a group of friends equally into it—makes it a bit of a challenge right now. I would suggest to start with same day trips so that you see 1- if you like it , 2- what gear you need 3- IF you are taking family with you to see how they handle it ....And then, expand from there on any of the 3 points above. Just my 2 cents @Abhishek Chikara Edited April 22, 2025 by Mike M. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike M. Posted April 22, 2025 Author Share Posted April 22, 2025 18 hours ago, Ishak said: Hi @Abhishek Chikara I don’t see your name on the vote result Are you turning this into a competition to see which pool is larger ?!?!? @Ishak 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_luke_ Posted April 22, 2025 Share Posted April 22, 2025 17 minutes ago, Mike M. said: Thanks for taking the time for an elaborate answer @Gaurav. I completely hear you on the passion and the joy from Dune Navigation. I was sharing with @Frederic the other day, now that i am in a position where i have command and control over desert driving and acceptable navigation skills (still a lot to learn but you get the point i am sure), the feeling of being able to pick a location visually and put the pieces of the puzzle to get there is a Priceless sense of freedom! Plus it gives such a rewarding feeling once mission accomplished. As for the word Bashing, I am not sure if it came from American English or British English as they differ in meaning depending which language you use. In American English, Bashing means a hard blow which i understand why you prefer the word Navigation instead. As for the British meaning of Bash, it means attempt. so attempting to navigate the dunes would be called Dune Bashing in British Engish Finally, my only 2 cents on the comfort of home being compelling, i fully agree with you and this is why after every trip i do a lessons learned on what to improve in the experience for next time. After a few of these exercises, i am willing to have a wager that the shower experience today has a better water pressure and overall experience than most Dubai homes and the same applies for the rest of the experience. You have to take my word for it I guess I am sure every offroader has a mix of the 3 profiles in them but there is always one that is stronger than the other 2 and there is nothing wrong with that. We all enjoy the trail and the outdoors and that is the common denominator with us all. Hope it was not too poetic Where is my wolf @Luke K P ??? The Outdoorsman. This is utter discrimination! I would suggest to start with same day trips so that you see 1- if you like it , 2- what gear you need 3- IF you are taking family with you to see how they handle it ....And then, expand from there on any of the 3 points above. Just my 2 cents @Abhishek Chikara @Mike M. we also use the term 'bush bashing' in australia... when trying to navigate through terrain with no defined paths, ie just waypoints to hit whilst hiking/skiing or during orienteering.... Sorry that image was the best chatgpt could conjure up 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike M. Posted April 22, 2025 Author Share Posted April 22, 2025 2 minutes ago, Luke K P said: @Mike M. we also use the term 'bush bashing' in australia... when trying to navigate through terrain with no defined paths, ie just waypoints to hit whilst hiking/skiing or during orienteering.... Sorry that image was the best chatgpt could conjure up Gaurav has more of a reason to be ok with the word Bashing now As for the image, just pulling ur leg buddy 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DP1011 Posted April 22, 2025 Share Posted April 22, 2025 @Mike M. - Fantastic topic ! I voted for what Kind of Off-roader I am - Not what I end up doing, for reasons highlighted by people like @Aser / @Frederic . Having been often in Himalayas on drives, thanks to Fred's post, I realized what Oman could offer and those 3 days solo drive to Oman is still closet to my heart among all drives I have done with my machine here :) , although i cherish those early morning sunrise drives while sipping coffee with a view of those Hot air balloons over Lisaili and at times Qudra - that's one of my must do activities, which I ensure, for all my friends / relatives visiting - Of course weather permitting ! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishak Posted April 22, 2025 Share Posted April 22, 2025 1 hour ago, Mike M. said: Are you turning this into a competition to see which pool is larger ?!?!? @Ishak You are indeed a mind reader @Mike M.. I have to be careful with you 😂🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zubail Posted April 22, 2025 Share Posted April 22, 2025 3 hours ago, Mike M. said: the feeling of being able to pick a location visually and put the pieces of the puzzle to get there is a Priceless sense of freedom! Man! I have goosebumps when I read this part! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishak Posted April 24, 2025 Share Posted April 24, 2025 On 4/22/2025 at 2:36 PM, Zubail said: Man! I have goosebumps when I read this part! Hi @Zubail, I don’t see your name in the vote results. 😅 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike M. Posted April 24, 2025 Author Share Posted April 24, 2025 13 minutes ago, Ishak said: Hi @Zubail, I don’t see your name in the vote results. 😅 Your message cracked me up! You do know that being an Outdoorsman requires skills and the right gears/tools in almost everything to enjoy the outdoors (didn't want to dramatize it and say "survive"). The outdoorsman can drive a 4x4 and build a shade for you instead of looking for trees for shade as a Dune Basher. So of course you will see the highest number in Dune Bashing, then overlanding and the Outdoorsman would be the least. Good discussion for next time we meet on the sand ... On 4/22/2025 at 1:15 PM, DP1011 said: @Mike M. - Fantastic topic ! I voted for what Kind of Off-roader I am - Not what I end up doing, for reasons highlighted by people like @Aser / @Frederic . Having been often in Himalayas on drives, thanks to Fred's post, I realized what Oman could offer and those 3 days solo drive to Oman is still closet to my heart among all drives I have done with my machine here :) , although i cherish those early morning sunrise drives while sipping coffee with a view of those Hot air balloons over Lisaili and at times Qudra - that's one of my must do activities, which I ensure, for all my friends / relatives visiting - Of course weather permitting ! The idea @DP1011 is really to capture the preferences of our members and not what we do because what most of us do in the UAE is Dune Bashing only. This topic could also be used as a nice ice breaker for next time when members in the same preference bucket meet. On 4/22/2025 at 1:15 PM, DP1011 said: @Mike M. - Fantastic topic ! I voted for what Kind of Off-roader I am - Not what I end up doing, for reasons highlighted by people like @Aser / @Frederic . Having been often in Himalayas on drives, thanks to Fred's post, I realized what Oman could offer and those 3 days solo drive to Oman is still closet to my heart among all drives I have done with my machine here :) , although i cherish those early morning sunrise drives while sipping coffee with a view of those Hot air balloons over Lisaili and at times Qudra - that's one of my must do activities, which I ensure, for all my friends / relatives visiting - Of course weather permitting ! Would you do Oman again @DP1011? On 4/22/2025 at 1:16 PM, Ishak said: You are indeed a mind reader @Mike M.. I have to be careful with you 😂🤣 Not a mind reader but I am literally seeing what you are doing ! or what you are trying to do at least 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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