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Welcome to Grand Iftar Drive - It's once in a year opportunity for all off-roaders in UAE to meet and sit in one place to enjoy Grand Iftar together. It's being held in coordination with most off-road clubs and approx. 400-500 off-road cars show up every year. Whether you are fasting or not, it's a must to attend to watch the union of off-roaders and witness the love and respect that everyone shares in this small world of off-roading in UAE. Please feel free to join us with your friends and family with your Iftari & a little extra to share with others. Please do not litter as it kills beautiful wildlife, so please carry enough garbage liners to pack the trash. Drive Details Level: ALL LEVELS ARE WELCOME When: 2 April 2023, Sunday Meeting time: 5:30 PM (SHARP - Without any exceptions) Meeting Point: https://goo.gl/maps/3zBbCKDhDnE3Hygd6 Gathering Venue: https://goo.gl/maps/aMni2oVeVhCydVwt8 (24°47'50.5"N - 55°23'52.6"E) Type of Car: Any proper 4x4 with front and back tow hooks and 8-10 inches of ground clearance. What to bring along: Iftar food and drinks for yourself and a little extra to share, camping chairs, mat, etc. Approximate finish time: 8:00 PM P.S. Only join if you have a compressor to inflate your tires after the drive. UNLIMITED SPOTS AVAILABLE: PLEASE RSVP ON THE BELOW CALENDAR EVENT

And then ppl say that leaf springs are made to take a lot of load than coil springs.

Congratulation @Ahmad Nerat ......👍

Ok @MisterPoet now we have a bit more info, I noticed you bought 2013 (10-year old) LandCruiser, and since my part-time job is also fixing my 20-year old LandCruiser 😂, this is how I'd approach it (in this exact order): Note A: The wheel bearings I wouldn't worry at this stage. Wheel bearings will make noise as you accelerate the car more, it's like humming or buzzing sound when you go above 80 km/h. It's good preventative maintenance for 10-year old car, but you can do it after you hear the buzzing sound from outside at high speed _all the time_ (not intermittent / unpredictable). Note B: Yes you can replace just the bushing only without the whole Lower Control Arm (LCA). I did that cos I was being cheap, but felt bad to the mechanics... they spent the whole day hammering because the bottle jack / bush-presser-tool couldn't push them out. It was much easier for them if I just replaced the whole LCA 😂 But it's worth it, the old bushing in the LCA was bad >> see https://www.instagram.com/p/CaFeRpJJuAR/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link Things To Do: Replace 2 Motor + 1 Transmission Mount. Because the vibration is under the seat, so this is a cheap fix. And because 10-year old rubbers will wear out in this climate. Do "ROAD FORCE BALANCING" . Stand behind them and make sure they use the Road Force machine and not being lazy and tell you they've done it without proof. Do "Propeller Shaft" Balancing. Propeller Shaft is the drive shaft that connects front axle to rear axle and it's under your seats. If it's a bit bent or unbalanced, it will cause some shuddering/vibration at certain speeds. Of course just like LCA, you can buy a new propeller shaft, but 500dhs of shaft balancing sounds cheaper than 1000+ dhs for new propeller shaft 😁 This is the last option: go to transmission specialist and ask them to Rebuild Torque Converter, but not the whole gearbox/transmission clutches, just the torque converter. My Jeep has this issue, when reaching 80km/h it would shudder/vibrate for 5 seconds before shifting gear, seems the torque converter is slow at locking-up. Last last thing: if 1-4 are done and you still get vibration: live with it and accept it as part of owning an Old LandCruiser 😅 Of course you can still throw money at it by replacing wheel bearings + CV axles, but as I've said before wheel bearings make buzzing sound constantly at high speed and CV axles make noise when making full U-Turns or Climbing upwards in mall & apartment parkings. Good luck!

@Krishna R did only one leaf break or the entire set? I don't think the spacers would have caused your leaf spring to break. I have had a case where both my rear leaf springs set had failed at the same time. But this happened only once in about 7 years of offroading. This didn't happen all of a sudden, but over a period of time which I realised later in hindsight. Whenever I used to overload the vehicle it would sag quite a bit at the back. So what exactly happened is that out of the 4 leafs the smallest ones had already broken and during the final drive in Sweihan while cross-crossing the big leaf gave away. And the same must have happened on the other side as well. In my case the springs had no rust as well, infact they are made of hardened steel that don't fail so easily. Your shocks are the ones that prevent the full flex of the leaf spring. Maybe it has a bit too much travel and allows the suspension to flex more than what it ought too.

Ok. This is an old thread but wanted to share my experience. In my last drive in Al Saad, as i was climbing, I heard a loud thump from the rear and found that the topmost leaf spring just cracked in half Replaced the leaf springs nearby and took it to my mechanic for a check up and identify the issue. The leaf spring that broke wasn't rusty, it looked solid. Turns out the rubber padding between the leaves had turned hard (not brittle) and rock solid and literally became a hard object between the leaves and were stressing at the contact point which ultimately cracked the leaf during a bump. So, rubber between the leaves is a good idea to stop the squeaks but they need to be replaced time to time and not let them become hard. I am currently running them stock (without the rubbers). Don't care about the squeaks but I cant handle another breakdown in the desert. Once the leaf spring cracks, the rear axle slides to the back of the car and the wheel touches the fender. Good luck with that if you don't have @Asif Hussain and @Jona in your convoy. FYI @Chaitanya D, @Foxtrot Oscar, @M.Seidam, @Tbone, @Rizwanm2, @Zulfikhar Naiyar@Ashutosh Garg@Chinthaka Ruwan, @Brendan White , @Xavier Treasurer, @Janarthan, @Mukundan Nair

Congratulations @Ishak

Congratulation @Ishak...... 👍

Hi @AlexM we do not allow sharing of business details in forums to deter spam. You can leave your mobile number here to get personal messages from other Abu Dhabi Jeep/4x4 owners, who wish to help recommend you a good garage. I am tagging a few AD members who might reach you on WA. @Asif Hussain @Zed @Mus_hus78

Last self-check: please mention if this vibration comes on a smooth road or not. If it's not, then it cannot be tire/wheel, as unbalanced tires make intermittent vibration at different speeds, especially from 80 - 120 bracket (exactly as u mentioned).

As u explained now with more details, it still seems like an unbalanced tire or when sand goes in any tire and makes them unbalanced. I know you've changed tires, but have you seen 0 and 0 on both sides of each tire while balancing with your eyes? If not, get all wheels balanced again and stand next to the machine and see every tire reach 0 and 0 with your eyes. If you've seen the 0 and 0 with your eyes, then do a straight rotation of the front and rear tires, if vibration comes from the front now, surely one of the two wheels is bent or cracked. If still noise comes from the back, then I would seek a professional mechanic to diagnose than just throwing parts randomly.

Congrats @Ishak looking forward to some drives together

Congratulations @Ishak looking forward to more pics from your adventures at a higher level

Thank you @Zed for such an elaboration. The vibration I feel is neither on steering nor on brake padel, its on car seats and at times I feel back seat on passenger side slightly shaking and making bit of noise. This vibration is not felt during whole drive but only when there is old highway patch. (like on E611 and E311). I feel it mostly between 80KMPH to 110KMPH speeds. Secondly, there is no clunking noise while hitting bumps or potholes. Yesterday, I got my car ramped and inspected front underneath - both side ball joints doesn't show any wear, neither the rubber looks old; but small wear was seen on exposed part of the lower arm bushes. Mechanic advised to leave the car, so that he could open LCA and UCA and check if replacement is required. If required, he suggests to change the whole Control Arms rather than only bush replacement which he said won't stay longer. I would definitely send you a message boss.

Thank you @Vaibhav @Waqas Parvez @JeromeFJ @Varun Mehndiratta @Jaro Tuzinsky

Congratulations @Ishak well done and looking forward to drive and talk together next time:)

@MisterPoet you didn't explain if the vibration is from your foot (brake-related) , steering wheel (rack & pinion, bushings), driver seat (suspension-related). To accurately diagnose, you need to find a garage with RuidCar suspension-testing machine like this >> https://www.instagram.com/reel/CpSBXlGKQWD/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= Then they will use stetoschope or long screwdriver + funnel to find the source of vibration by pressing the screwdriver to all metal parts until "not normal" noise is found like here >> Since we can't mention any garage in forums, send me whatsapp on 056-724-2156, my friend recently found a garage who uses this stetoschope method to fix his 4WD not engaging but making noise only (Ford uses actuator at the wheels to automatically switch to 4WD, one of the actuators was stuck and the stetoschope pointed which one)

Congratulations @Ishak surely well deserved 👍👍

I would say visit a decent mechanic and they can spot the torn/crack bushes or wheel bearing play in a few minutes.

Congratulations @Ishak ! Continue to enjoy driving, and to take nice pics !!

Good news @Frederic : squeaking sound is back after yesterday's offroad drive. Slightly squeaking though, no possible comparaison with what it was before... You will need a lightbar.

@Frederic It looks like you won’t need lights for our night drives...

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That's a shame... I was looking forward on the next night-drive where i could follow your car with my eyes closed 😂