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If affordability isn't a question then newer will offer 5 years of peace of mind with warranty, for sure. Model wise 2017 upward all are JLU and have the same power and features more or less. Don't worry about wrecking your car in the sand, as far as you are driving sensibly and with good comprehensive off-road insurance, which covers almost all unforeseen situations, very well in UAE. Awesome choice.

You definitely can't go wrong with Rubicon, it's one of the best off-road toys. I agree with Mark that sway-bar disconnect is more for rock crawling features, not apt for sand. Diff locks are truly essential if you have it for sand, if you don't, yes they aren't a deal breaker. So if you buying a dedicated off-road car, look for one that comes with a factory rear diff-lock (at least) + the front locker is a luxury (in Rubicon). Now 2 door vs 4 door comes to your need, but for sand 2 door is always better for having the best power-to-weight ratio, which can offer years of smiles on every tall dune climbing.

Totally agree with Pavel, if you can split the budget into two cars, nothing like it to have the best of both worlds. I would split 200k for a road car and 100k for an offroad car that is a couple of years old (max 5) and not previously driven off-road, with full-service history but no warranty and under 50k-100k kms road driven. These strict parameters are there for a reason. When a car runs out of warranty, it loses big money and comes a lot cheaper. So buying a 3-5 year-old Wrangler, FJC, etc will give you a sweet spot to get the max off-road worthy car in the least amount of money (minus initial year heavy depreciation). At the same time, it's not so old that it will fall apart on every off-road drive and you keep fixing it month after month (that's why dealer service history is crucial here).

Congratulations @BIBIN THOMAS for reaching the Fewbie Level with Carnity Offroad Club. Looking forward to seeing you growing further and helping others to learn the art of offroading in a safe environment. Please make sure your Carnity user profile is always updated with all the latest Emergency contact details. P.S. Trip lead might deny your participation if you don't have required off-road gear. FEWBIE Drives Attended (Indicative) Minimum 5 Newbie drives are required within last 3 months for Fewbie promotion. What you'll learn Basic dune and sand reading Self-recovery techniques Shoveling at right place Crawling out of difficult situations Blip Blip - Coordinate steering and gas control Basic side sloping and hill climb Basic ridge riding and criss crossing Basic control over technical dunes Slightly faster pace desert driving Ability to manage stuck/refusals with radio Learn to control and avoid fishtailing Never fight or challenge gravity Skills required Enthusiastic and positive attitude Willingness to learn and help others Presence of mind and attention to detail Car Worthiness Any 4x4 vehicle with low range gearing Suitable approach and departure angle Off-road gear required Safety flag, tire deflator, tire pressure gauge, shovel, fire extinguisher, medical kit, radio (walkie-talkie), air compressor. Drive teamwork Manage second lead and sweep positions upon request Intuitive and proactive to support Trip Lead Observe recoveries and offer help, when needed Drive Joining Join Newbie and Fewbie drives Forum participation Active participation on the forum Share drive experience + feedback Share drive pictures in the gallery Post trip report after the drive

I'm sure in the process, Mia learned a lot and made huge memories to brag about with her friends now. I rem, I let Iraj pour half a liter of engine oil once and heard those stories from across the globe.

Great topic @Looper, let's start some coaching again with the lens lover club, I miss those big time. Im still in love with my single lens AF-S NIKKOR 28-300mm f/3.5-5.6G ED VR on my Nikon D750 that always served me well from close up to wide angle.

4T is really overkill for desert use as it's huge and super heavy. Good for home repairs or workshops. 1.5 - 2.0 Ton jack is plenty because at any time you are lifting one tire and not the whole car (2.5 Ton car divided by 4 = 700 - 1000 kgs roughly on one tire). Buying a reliable and good quality one is the most important in my eyes. Jack stand are awesome for lengthy repairs and double protection in tricky places.

To me, it seems he is a professional desert safari driver with impeccable response to steering down in less than half a second. Roll must have happened, due to split-second distraction, wrong line, high speed, or soft sand (unfortunate case). @M.Seidam what's written in Arabic?

Congratulations @Mohit Gurnani for reaching the Fewbie Plus Level with Carnity Offroad Club. Looking forward to seeing you growing further and helping others to learn the art of offroading in a safe environment. Please make sure your Carnity user profile is always updated with all the latest Emergency contact details. P.S. Trip lead might deny your participation if you don't have required off-road gear. FEWBIE PLUS Drives Attended (Indicative) Minimum 10 Fewbie drives are required within last 6 months for Fewbie Plus promotion. What you'll learn Advance dune and sand reading Advance recovery techniques Rocking and crawling to make path Learn to flatten/compact soft sand patch Self recovery from crest Advance side sloping and long hill climb Advance ridge riding and criss crossing Advance control over technical dunes Slightly faster pace desert driving FULLY control and avoid fishtailing Never fight or challenge gravity Skills required Enthusiastic and positive attitude Willingness to learn and help others Extremely attentive and focused while driving Car Worthiness Any 4x4 vehicle with low range gearing Suitable approach and departure angle Bash plate and skid plate protected Off-road gear required Safety flag, tire deflator, tire pressure gauge, shovel, fire extinguisher, medical kit, radio (walkie-talkie), air compressor. Drive teamwork Manage second lead and sweep positions upon request Intuitive and proactive to support Trip Lead Observe recoveries and offer help, when needed Drive Joining Join Newbie, Fewbie and Fewbie Plus drives Forum participation Active participation on the forum Share drive experience + feedback Share drive pictures in the gallery Post trip report after the drive

Im booking my turn now to play that in dunes.

Please find your connvoy number below. We will use Radio Channel 4. @Brette @Shiboo Kr @Faraz94 @DTG @Arun Menon @Benjamin @Thomas Collins Jayakumar @essam ibrahim @Benjamin williams @Theo09 @PETELCZYC PAJERO - luke @DP1011 Gaurav Silver Pajero Brette Black JGC Shiboo Kr Silver Wrangler Faraz94 Grey Haval H9 DTG White Pajero Arun Menon Black Xterra Benjamin Silver Wrangler Thomas Collins White FJC essam ibrahim White Land cruiser Benjamin williams Silver TJ Theo09 White Prado PETELCZYC - luke White Pajero DP1011 Black Wrangler

@Shiboo Kr welcome to Carnity. Please introduce yourself with your car and previous off-road experience (if any). Please make sure to carry the mandatory off-road gear mentioned on the above drive post.

Nescafe - Americano is my first choice (still old school) Second - Starbucks is closest. old habit die hard

You can't go wrong with either, Prado with little mods, and Rubicon is a perfect beast for sand offroading. Go with whichever suits your style, comfort, preference, budget, and availability. Rubicon will be a tad better in performance and Prado will be a tad better in comfort and reliability.

Totally agree with @Simon D, word by word. Oil is cheap and the engine rebuild is expensive. Folks still in doubt, please check your owner's manual as it has two columns. Normal condition: 10K. Adverse: 5K. In Dubai, many dealers consider road driving is under adverse too due to extreme heat and the presence of sand in the air. If you drive one off-road drive in a month, then also my highest recommendation is to get your engine oil and oil filter changed early. The reason is with extreme heat, when oil cools down it's no longer as efficient as before. So after 5-10-20 drives engine oil loses its lubrication property and starves engine critical components when you redline on the next drive. I busted one engine on top of Faya, by listening to the same BS. Must be around 8-9K when that incident happens. So bottom line, if you like to do 10k service, join NB drives only.

Congrats @Ale Vallecchi on a double century, you always set the bar too high.

RSVP closes a day before, but better RSVP now and leave later a day before in case the drive gets full.

@Arun Menon and @Faraz94 you need to click on the "Going" selection in RSVP to join the drive. Manage is meant for the leads and support team who manages the drives. Please leave the event and then click again on the "Going" link, before the drive gets full.

Congratulations @Benjamin for joining the Support Team with Carnity Offroad Club. Looking forward to seeing you grow further and helping others to learn the art of offroading in a safe environment. Please make sure your Carnity user profile is always updated with all the latest Emergency contact details. SUPPORT TEAM Pre-requisite 1) Minimum 10 any level "Carnity" drives are required after your Intermediate promotion to become eligible for the Support Team. Once you decide to join Team Carnity to excel further with your off-roading, people, and commanding skills, you will be extensively trained by the whole Team Carnity from Expert - Marshal - Crew at various stages by supporting different levels drives. Activities for Support Team Members Support different Marshals and Crew at Newbie level drives to demonstrate: Your ability and willingness to support new offroaders. Ability to gain control of commanding situations. And clear communication skills to help manage the convoy. Possible progress toward becoming an Advisor Once you have proved to be a regular Supporting Team member and have supported different trip leads on several Newbie and Fewbie drives, we will gather your periodic feedback. Based on this feedback and reviews you might receive an invitation to become a Carnity Advisor for further advancement within our community. You will also need to have completed a minimum of 10 Intermediate Level drives, and be a regular club member (minimum supporting 6 Newbie or Fewbie drives per quarter) to become eligible. Being invited to an Advisor role means we put our faith in you as a passionate club member who displays maturity and passion to carry your knowledge on to new off-roaders who are still progressing through the ranks.

Congratulations @Marketa Dobesova for reaching the Fewbie Plus Level with Carnity Offroad Club. Looking forward to seeing you growing further and helping others to learn the art of offroading in a safe environment. Please make sure your Carnity user profile is always updated with all the latest Emergency contact details. P.S. Trip lead might deny your participation if you don't have required off-road gear. FEWBIE PLUS Drives Attended (Indicative) Minimum 10 Fewbie drives are required within last 6 months for Fewbie Plus promotion. What you'll learn Advance dune and sand reading Advance recovery techniques Rocking and crawling to make path Learn to flatten/compact soft sand patch Self recovery from crest Advance side sloping and long hill climb Advance ridge riding and criss crossing Advance control over technical dunes Slightly faster pace desert driving FULLY control and avoid fishtailing Never fight or challenge gravity Skills required Enthusiastic and positive attitude Willingness to learn and help others Extremely attentive and focused while driving Car Worthiness Any 4x4 vehicle with low range gearing Suitable approach and departure angle Bash plate and skid plate protected Off-road gear required Safety flag, tire deflator, tire pressure gauge, shovel, fire extinguisher, medical kit, radio (walkie-talkie), air compressor. Drive teamwork Manage second lead and sweep positions upon request Intuitive and proactive to support Trip Lead Observe recoveries and offer help, when needed Drive Joining Join Newbie, Fewbie and Fewbie Plus drives Forum participation Active participation on the forum Share drive experience + feedback Share drive pictures in the gallery Post trip report after the drive

We request every member that joins this drive to go through the below information and strictly follow these guidelines, etiquettes and responsibilities. MUST READ AND COMPLY Environmental Policy Offroad Flag Guideline Two Way Radio Guideline Off road Driving Etiquette's Emergency details for all off-roaders Off Road Driving - Roles & Responsibilities First time with Carnity Off-road Club: Please share your vehicle details - Make, Model, Color, and Year. Do you have any prior off-road experience? If yes, pls share details. Confirm your vehicle has front and rear tow hooks/eyelets. Advise if you don’t have a programable radio and safety flag. MUST WATCH: NEWBIE VIDEO BRIEFING DRIVE DETAILS Level: Absolute Newbie, Newbie and above When: 8 July 2023, Saturday Meeting time: 6:00 AM - Sharp (Without any exceptions) Meeting Point: https://goo.gl/maps/pHtng9gys8ZUdHxJA Approximate finish time: 10:00 AM Type of Car: Any proper 4x4 with front and back tow hooks and 8-10 inches of ground clearance. What to bring along: Loads of water, snacks (for yourself), smiles, enthusiasm and willingness to learn. Mandatory off-road gears: Tire deflator, tire pressure gauge, compressor, walkie-talkie radio, off-road flag, shovel, first-aid kit and fire extinguisher. LIMITED SPOTS AVAILABLE This drive is limited to 12 cars only. If the RSVP is full, you can add your name to the waitlist, once anyone drops, you will be moved to the RSVP list. RSVP will close a day prior to preparing a convoy list. Latecomers will be returned back - Without any exceptions. Members without RSVP will be returned back - Without any exceptions. Please withdraw your RSVP, if you aren't joining, so your spot can be taken by others. Repeated no-show members after RSVP will have their account suspended for a month. PLEASE RSVP ON THE CALENDAR

I didn't vote for you, as we haven't driven together for a long time since hashtag Y62 - duct tape fix, lol. When for regular promotions, we use 360 feedback, so, for Hall of Fame, it goes 720.

Apart from Fredy, you also got 9 votes for this selection.

Congratulations to all the great heroes of Carnity. @Asif Hussain @M.Seidam @Looper @DP1011 @Zed and @GauravSoni Keep rocking guys. Many thanks, @Frederic - The data god to bring the best ones into the spotlight.