Josh S

Self declaration: I have more than 20 drives in the UAE over the last 6 months and hoping for a Fewbie promotion after this drive. (e.g. Al Badayer, Qudra, Al Faqa, Nazwa, Lisaili, Sweihan driven). Thank you.

I used 4L on my Rubicon in Sweihan the other day, I got up to about 45/50 kmh, however I am nervous to do this too much as I understand it puts a lot of stress on the car. Can the transfer case / gear ratio be changed cheaply.

Very interesting approach. I never thought about it in this “reverse” way, but understood that shifting on a climb is not ideal as you lose all your torque. Perhaps that’s when starting in first and shifting up to second as you max the RPM of first.

For those driving in 4H, how often are you in First vs Second gear?

@Zed - I was just about to start a Beadlock debate

And if I do get to a large dune that I just can’t get up in 4H, then I guess I have no choice but to engage 4L.. (for example today on a climb I almost didn’t make it in 4L - any higher I would have needed to turn down, whilst others were okay in 4L). Also, totally understand the argument for sponsored clubs and there being an incentive to damage cars, but confident this isn’t the case with those I drove with). Finally, any thoughts on additional throttle control in 4L. Being able to blip the throttle if in a drifting situation or some soft sand to help correct yourself? I find I’m usually very high up the rev range in 1st, but if I’m in second probably won’t have enough torque.

@Frederic would the Rubicon put even more stress on the car in 4L when compared to the Sport/Sahara given the ratios? Ie. More likely to damage with excessive speed.

Hi All, My brain is about to explode regarding the 4H and 4L debate. Two of the clubs I drive with (Carnity one of them) swear by 4H, and the other two swear by 4L. Specifically, the senior Marshalls (200+ drives) on these other drives state that whilst 4H is absolutely fine for junior/newbie drives, once you get onto much more challenging dunes, 4H will struggle to get up the steep soft dunes, and the 4L extra torque is really important when you need to correct yourself, as you need instant torque. Ultimately, by all means drive in 4L but you may just keep having to re attempt obstacles. As it so happens I have a wrangler rubicon where the transfer case isn’t really geared right to get any speed, however I drove in 4L today and it was absolutely fine in 4-6th gear. Why are there strong advocates for either. If one technique was right and the other one way was wrong, this argument would never exist. I’m an indecisive individual at the best of times so this really isn’t helping. Are there any Carnity drivers that swear by 4L?. Why wouldn’t you drive in 4L? It offers more torque to the wheels which is surely what you want…

@Looper - Just reviving this old thread! I note you don't mention air bag deactivation within TC Kill. Is it possible to include this so it functions identical to an actual kill switch? I want to avoid air bags deploying which although I understand to be very rare, is expensive if it happens.

I assume the air bags remain active without the kill switch, so this increases the risk of them deploying (which is an expensive repair?) Also, has anybody noticed a significant difference between fuse/kill switch and the stock button, especially on more challenging sand?

@M.Seidam. So sorry, I have to pull out of this one. I hope it allows space on the waiting list.

Thanks for all of your comments, however, I am now even more confused! To try and get a clear understanding, once and for all, why would somebody choose to use Auto instead of Part time? If Part time uses 4x4 all the time, surely there are no disadvantages to doing that, whilst there are disadvantages to Auto. ie - if you drive in auto, there may be occasions you need to move to part time, however if you drive in part time, you’ll never need to move to auto I’m getting the impression this is purely down to personal preference and different people will teach in different ways? Also @Frederic - what are the requirements to become a Carnity instructor in terms of driving experience and teaching experience? Is there a general level shared across all UAE clubs? Many thanks.

So, I am several drives under my belt now and loving it... On my first Carnity drive I was advised to drive my JL in 4H Auto and keep the car in automatic. I did this for 3 drives. Over the weekend, I completed a drive with another large, leading offroad club in Dubai (sorry Carnity!) and the lead driver is an active instructor. He told me that I should be driving in 4H Part time + Manual which is the opposite of what I heard in Carnity. Could I please seek clarification? Finally, this particular club offers courses in addition to their weekly drives (Beginner, Intermediate and Night). Although I am now 4 drives in and feel confident, the lead instructor advised that anybody would progress significantly faster with a course or two under their belt - learning the exact techniques as opposed to just following. I had always planned on being self-taught, but if I can become a safer driver, and progress more quickly, it could be a winner. Has anyone here participated in a beginner or intermediate course, even after some experience.

@Frederic My apologies but I need to drop out of this. Hope you drive with you soon!

I’ll see you there! 2021 Wrangler Rubicon 2dr Grey @Chaitanya D Do you have map location yet?