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  1. 6 minutes ago, Gaurav said:

    Sizes, type of tread and quality of rubber determine price than marketing style.

    Once inside that range rest all is marketing jargon to promote that specific set of audience.

    For best all terrain tire I always recommend Yokohama Geolander AT, based on my own 8 years of experience with Geolander and 14 years in offroad. BFG, Cooper ATR or STT, Mickey Thompson are awesome tires for off-road and rocks, but very heavy to limit your hill climb unless your ride has power mods. Secondly very noisy on road and drop fuel mileage being heavy to rotate.

    Geolander AT are well balanced tires, to give awesome offroad performance and grip with very little road noise and little drop in fuel milage vs HT tires.

    Unless you have highly modified desert only toy, don't bother with aggressive treads.

    Thanks @Gaurav for giving cost effective explanation. Well noted. 

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  2. 50 minutes ago, Gaurav said:

    I'm giving you basics, so you put it together however you need to decode. @Wrangeld is almost right on everything, Ill add few more clarity points.

    • Any increase in tire size: width or height will help in increasing sand flotation to have bigger footprint, however length increase is tad better to give flotation + ground clearance (which is prime requisite in off-road). Width is better when you need to increase the center of gravity by widening your stance. 
    • Tire weight is the prime factor, that many people don't research, understand and factor as not many manufacturer like to share this data. Having bigger size tire, which is lighter than smaller tire is better for off-road long hill climb and better for fuel mileage because you have less weight on per axle to rotate.
    • Tread size and pattern cause major difference in off-road and on-road (comfort and mileage) than tire size or weight alone.

    In your friend case 265 -275 is mere 1 cm width, that is TOTALLY NEGLIGIBLE for comfort, mileage, noise, offroad etc. unless you share more data of which tire brand, tread and size he used like 265/65/17.

    The more detailed information you share with your precise requirement, the better and productive advice you will get.

    Thanks @Gaurav for your valuable feedback. For Pajero, I don't have further details as of now.

    But when i compared tyre size for FJ-GXR & FJ-Extreme, GXR comes with 265/70 R17 and extreme comes with 275/70 R17. In this case also, its seems minor difference. Is it a kind of marketing style to justify price /trim or make some difference? 

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  3. 11 minutes ago, Wrangeld said:

    Hi Chirag, 

    As I think our our experts will tell you (so aologies for offering an answer as you did request 'expert' advice only!), the secret in the sand is not the width of the trye, but the length of the track when deflated (so it's actually more to do with the height of the tyre than the width).

    Being wider will of course give a wider footprint, but that is along a perpendicular line to the vehicle, and what you really want to achieve is more parallel coverage on the sand. 

    Issues such as economy/tyre life/noise are driven just as much by the tyre thread pattern and quality of the tyre as the width. What I learned (as I needed two tires recently so have a tiny bit of understanding from that experience) is that the quality of tire is more important than just about anything else. I was tempted to buy some really great looking big tyres for my car  - because they would look great - until one of our real experts brought me back to earth. 

    The tires are the only thing in the car between you, the road and crashing. They have a really small footprint when you think about the job that they are supposed to do - which is keep you safely where you need to be on the road while the car tries to rip them apart with it's 00's of horsepower. 

    A hgher quality 265 might be quieter, last longer, give better road holding and improved performance than aless expensive but really good looking set of 275s.  

     

    Do you think, increase in tyre size width shall influence fuel economy up to certain extent?!

  4. 5 minutes ago, Wrangeld said:

    Hi Chirag, 

    As I think our our experts will tell you (so aologies for offering an answer as you did request 'expert' advice only!), the secret in the sand is not the width of the trye, but the length of the track when deflated (so it's actually more to do with the height of the tyre than the width).

    Being wider will of course give a wider footprint, but that is along a perpendicular line to the vehicle, and what you really want to achieve is more parallel coverage on the sand. 

    Issues such as economy/tyre life/noise are driven just as much by the tyre thread pattern and quality of the tyre as the width. What I learned (as I needed two tires recently so have a tiny bit of understanding from that experience) is that the quality of tire is more important than just about anything else. I was tempted to buy some really great looking big tyres for my car  - because they would look great - until one of our real experts brought me back to earth. 

    The tires are the only thing in the car between you, the road and crashing. They have a really small footprint when you think about the job that they are supposed to do - which is keep you safely where you need to be on the road while the car tries to rip them apart with it's 00's of horsepower. 

    A hgher quality 265 might be quieter, last longer, give better road holding and improved performance than aless expensive but really good looking set of 275s.  

     

    Since I am jack of all in terms of off roading, for me, each advice is expert advise!! Hence, thanks for your expert advise.

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  5. Hi,

    While changing tyre in friend's Pajero, he chooses to fix 275 width against previous tyre size of 265.

    For getting more clarity, your expert guidance seeks on:

    1. Whether increase in tyre width really make any difference while driving on sand / wadi / on road / all terrain?

    2. Will it make any effect on fuel economy / tyre life / extra noice while driving?

    3. Other points

     

    Thanks!!!

     

     

  6. 18 minutes ago, desertdude said:

    Unless you are a very seasoned and confident driver with a trustworthy ride it's never advisable to go alone and even then better to avoid it. 

    I know this better than probably anyone here because I went on numerous trips more than I care to remember on my own because I had to because it was part of the job and on quite a few of these trips I had to spend a great deal of time tending to situations which would have taken minutes if I wasn't alone. Like getting stuck in axel hub high newly bulldozed powder sand. Getting ridged or the one out of two times I ever had a popout

    Popout more a flat actually being the worst because I was driving a company rented bushanab and had nothing but the factory Jack in it.

    Totally agreed on risk of driving alone while off roading!!

     

     

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  7. 2 minutes ago, desertdude said:

    Ideal situation for any sort of offroading. Both. Then you can also add rear wear steering, bash plates, lift kits, body armour etc etc and turn your car into a tank.

    Or let common sense prevail and suggest to learn how to drive properly in the desert first. Get good at it, while you are doing this you will also get familiar with how to tow properly and then if you must get one one installed at the front.

    I'm in disagreement here that winch is a necessary piece of kit for offroading. If it was you would see majority of the off roaders having one. But it's a rare sight. 

    It's a great thing to have but not a must and not very practical for many either. First the costs involved, then most cars requiring some kind of modification to have it installed, then maintaining it and keeping it in good working condition supercedes the odd and rare occasion when you really really do need it. 

    This is my take on this whole situation, take it or leave it and feel free to disagree.

    Agree with your point of view. On the other hand, we can accept their advantages, As, these optional gadgets are helpful to get rid from uncertain /surprise situations, especially when you are alone!!

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  8. 12 hours ago, Gaurav said:

    Adding metal bumper is whole lot another story from 20 kg - 100 kg depending on need and choice.

    I really doubt that you cannot fit winch in stock bumper, as FJC Stealth comes with plastic bumper and winch option. I manage to squeeze TJM 9.5 ton winch on 6mm plate sandwich between the chassis in my dinky Pajero that has notoriously cramped engine bay.

    If you really want to do something you will find a way.

    Front mounted winch or Rear mounted winch!! Which is better one for desert driving or driving in wadi?!

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