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Prado. Both capable doing offroad, but: 1. Prado is based LC platform, hence it is a way better "onroader" than the hillux utility pickup based Fortuner. 2. Prado is produced in Japan, you can always trust Japan made Toyotas' long term reliability and they tend to have highest resell value in market (LC, Prado, FJC), Fortuner is made in Malaysia if I am not mistaken. I owed a 05 Prado before, it ran better than my 10 Nissan Pathfinder with similar mileage. However, for Prado you will need to do some extra modifications/adjustments to the front bumper/skirting/bumper guard, because those lowered Car's approaching angle and can be damaged during offroading. Also Prado is more expensive than Fortuner.

Thanks Fred, noted😁

Its the exact same setup for both cars, the type of the points, the location, and the bolts. I plan to use the hitch one for recovery mainly, and keep the original left point as back up, and add a right point later on.

Thanks for the advices everyone, heading to sharjah for the beam replacement tomorrow. there is only 1 point on left side, and I have heard from many that those original points are weak, hence upgrading is necessary

Hi everyone, Need some valuable knowledge/ advices from you on this: As we all know, Nissan is famous for making weak recovery points. For my Pathfinder, I have already upgraded the front recovery point when I installed the skid plate. Altho the back one is still in healthy condition, I would like to upgrade it before any possible surprises can happen. I now have 2 options: 1. Install the recovery points on the frame, as I did in the front. 2. Replace my GCC rear bumper beam that has no hitch receiver to a original USA spec beam that has hitch receiver as a part of the beam and put on a rated D shackle as the rear recovery point. I prefer option 2 replacing the beam for various reasons, but I am not sure if the strength will be trustworthy during recoveries? Please enlighten me.

It was a fabulous drive today, long and high dunes ( I havent rode them in months!!), and technical ones at the second half. Thank you @Mehmet Volga @marks for leading this fabulous, and @Dodi Syahdar @Werno for the flawless support. The entire convoy did pretty well, we had minimum refusals all self recovered, and we successfully reached Faqa without surpries and delay. Thought I heard Dodi's Raptor in the back, but it turned out to be @Daniel Rodas 's "Rap - ajero"

Thanks Varun! Thanks Fred ! Thanks Mohammed, cant wait to learn more recoveries with you!

Thanks Gaurav for the approval, and Thanks all the marshals, supporting members, and friends, cant make it this far without any of you! Thanks Anoop, will see you soon~ Thanks Russ, hopefully haha, havent been to challenging drives recently yet so.... Thanks Vaibhav! Thanks munkybizness! Thanks Hisham! look forward to more learning from you! Thanks Ranjan, I will see you soon! Thanks Sunil, I was actually back to UAE a while ago, couldnt do more drives because of Xmas and Covid. I think yes, currently the only R51 IM, not a popular option for sand haha. Thanks Shaaz, look forward to more learning from you as well!

Great machine, and it's the best selling mid size truck in the states. But still go test drive Tacoma, because it's using the 3.5 engine, torque comes much later than the popular 4.0 engine. You will feel like driving a turbo car, not much torque untill you kinda push the rpm higher. I wouldn't like it in sand. But fuel economy is better than 4.0 On the other hand it's sibling 4 runner is more popular here, it's equipped with the 4.0 engine that's has wider torque band, and it's basically a LWB FJC made in US, with Atrac rear locker crawl control Tundra is a different story, tundra is indeed bigger wider more comfortable and has more powerful v8 engines, but lacks of offroad gears, it has only ABS simulated LSD or eLSD, and on Tacoma 4runner you can find rear locker Atrac crawl control stuffs that are more professional for offroading I personally would choose a 4runner if ever one day I'm giving up on the Pathfinder. BTW, Both cars I believe are compatible with the Prado and FJC offroad mods here.

Congrats! @ZULFIKHAR NAIYAR you definitely can go anywhere with Xterra offroad. Cant give you names but can tell you that front skid plate should cost around 1-1.3 k for 8-10mm thickness with radiator guard. and then you are ready to bash the dunes !

My point is that these can be added but at extra spendings, and cruise control is a must-have function to me ( staying on the speed limit accurately 😈)

Agree on what's said above, 40k is more resonable, in summer you can get it down to 35k if the car is a moderate condition As i remember from your previous y62 post, you want the car to be daily driving as well, the basic Xterra is too basic for a daily driving car, no cruise control, no bluetooth, not even front fog lights (altho they can be added). Get one with offroad package is better in long run it has most of the specs and diff lock with bilsten shocks. Diff lock is not game changer, but 30% of scenarios it gets useful. I have visited Al Futtaim automall once, every single car I tried were with signs body work, minor and major. I could have bad luck that day but check closely the body if you decide to close it on this one. yes it's possible, I guess the cost is 3k at least

Sad to see you leaving as well @Jeepie, wish you the best in all, stay safe!

It's really sad to see you leaving @Lorenzo Candelpergher, I didnt have the chance to drive with you more often, but the FB+ Faya you led on a weekday morning remains as one of my all time favorite, true enjoyment. I wish you the best in your new adventures!

Congrats @Charbel!

Congrats @Marwan Haddad!

quote of 8k for bash plate is a joke.... even a full steel offroad bumper wouldn't cost you this figure you should not spend more than 1.5k for just the front one, 8-10mm aluminium, try to call up more workshops. but dont get into the bash plat yet, with what you mentioned, 4L transmission high temp, 4wd disabled after a tug, unable to disable side airbags. if you cant solved them anyhow, perhaps looking into something else is a better option, those will definitely annoy you in more challenging drives, especially in summer heat that is coming not so soon.

that's exactly what I did lol😄. bumper trim, 2 inch lift, cheap yet powerful VQ40DE. I will give you some pros & cons as a pathfinder (R51) owner for half a decade: Pro: 1. Really powerful engine, and you can push the rpm to red zone without worrying about auto upshifting 2. cheap price but reliable in its category 3. the models from 2013-2015(6) are made in Spain, I dont see overheating issue even the Spanish removed the extra transmission cooler. (Mine is 2010, made in US, I have both coolant & transmission overheating issue during summer.) 4. full independent suspension, comfortable on road, and the highway handling is remarkable compare to other rivals 5. Second & third rows can be put down completely, It's all I needed during house shifting Cons: 1. the 2013-2015(6) ones only come with basic option, no cruise control, no center screen, and no all other buttons, it feels like a utility car. 2. Second & third rows are tight, Nissan has squeezed the second row space to accommodate third row 3. Stock ground clearance isn't enough, you probably will need 1.5-2 inch lift to be more comfortable driving in bushy terrain. 4. full independent suspension + no rear/front diff lock = less articulation, and more difficult to get yourself out once you have 1 wheel front and 1 wheel rear are airborne. 5. Power to weight ratio 122hp/ton, a bare passing score, but enough to get you on top the hills, I haven't failed any straight hill climbing yet, but its weight is indeed heavy @ZULFIKHAR NAIYAR Honestly if you are into Patrol, you can find some 320 HP Patrols with your budget, early y62 come with 2 engine trans options, 320HP (VK56DE)+5AT and 400HP(VK56VD, mentioned by Rawad)+7AT. Fuel efficiency & offroadability are similar, the only (probably) differences are power and ride comfort. I recently have witnessed a 2010 320HP Patrol sold at 4X,XXX AED (below actual market price), with just 100k mileage, incredible condition, so dont give up just yet.

Congrats @Chris Wing!

Just with skid plate you will be fine for fewbie. I did bumper cutting till just below the fog light, great for approaching and departing side ways. I havent had any bumper damage since the cutting. You can see from my profile picture HT or AT is debatable, we have members and marshals using HT as well. read the below thread to see their perspectives, https://carnity.com/forums/topic/16910-buying-a-car-no-off-road-experience-doubt-about-tires?tab=comments#comment-98494 My most satisfied modification is the 10mm alu front skid plate, shielded countless damage that could have be done to the car directly.

I have beening reading some reviews on the 4 cylinder ones for a while, it appears to me that most of the consumers are happy with its performance after 1 year, more reliable than the 2 cylinder camel one. BTW its sold cheaper in UAE than China's online retail website.....

it was such an eventful drive for me, heavy drop from a ridge end, broken inner fender, broken AUX fan, radiator cap leakage, and 2 stucks, but with the support from the entire convoey I made it to the end, oh ofc an almost fire alarm. Thank you @Shaaz Sha for bringing us there and showed us a whole new level of ridge riding, I still remember that I did my first ridge riding right behind your wrangler in the same area. I think the smooth, one straight line kind of ridge riding wouldnt bring me much excitment now! @Gregory I hope that I didnt make track too difficult for you, by lots of mistakes that I did. I didnt really have the time to check on your at mirror but I guess you were all fine, and thank you for saving my ass too~ @Matt.T @Thomas Varghese thank you for supporting the drive, really flawless, and your presence assured the whole convoy's safety See you all another time on sand!

Dragon mart is a very racist place, vendors price you base on your skin color/ethnicity by look. Go with a Chinese/South Asian for better pricing. 🙃One of the best battle field for negotiation master class in UAE

Congrats @Rsjiv Samuel

Congrats @Russ