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I was in a similar situation few year back, and bought my Mustang GT from auto mall employee who have bought the car from automall 6 months back. Never had any problem and car served me for 2 years without any issues. I agree with Fredy that automall cars are 5-10% expensive but it's worth it knowing the inherent risk and suffering that can come from abused cars and plus 1 year warranty. As it's a road car and not an offroad, so buying and inspecting is lot easier. Just make sure that it has full service history from Dodge and not from outside garage. Definition of FSH from seller stand point is always yes, but as buyer you should insist on seeing all services done with granular details. As it's a bit of task to pull each service full detail, so seller might make you run around or wait, but still insist. Unless you see each service date wise breakdown and what all has been serviced in printed or electronic format, dont buy. I mean it. I have been doing the same for all my cars and surprisingly spot major issues in service history, either big gaps (means owner wasnt responsible enough) or doing minor service at dealership and major ones outside. For older cars this is fine, but for cars within first 3 - 5 years I would prefer FSH from dealer and I'm ready to pay 10% extra for peace of mind. Once FSH is really FSH, then you can get it check at any garage for computer and mechanical testing, if all comes clean, you are good to go. For the mileage its tad high, so you can try to push on that point and see if they give some discount. Trick for that is to visit automall with cash in hand (my fav trick) or bank approval and get the last minute discount by showing your fair reason to negotiate (mileage and/or any issues) and your seriousness to buy (most imp). Good luck it's a beautiful fun car,

Reg. points from @Benjamin and @Vaibhav on Rubicon vs sports vs Sahara, heres my input based on 2 years of riding Sahara and 5 months back having upgraded to Rubicon. a.) Price delta between all models is beautifully designed, so buying one and trying to transform it to other is not worthy exercise - you will end up spending more without reaching anywhere. Yeah i did the exercise of checking up that if i buy Sports and transform it to Sahara - numbers just didnt add. So, went with Sahara itself (that too limited edition with all black trim). b.) Aesthetically, though a personal choice, i always liked Rubicon those vents on the bonnet, silver rims, aggresive tyres, high fenders, red piano dash all just give it a beautiful edge. Sports was never on cards for me as needed leather seats and good slick interiors (its my daily ride, needed something comfortable for my suited ass as well as with weekend pyjamas ) c.) So, price and aesthetics aside - all three trims are superb for Off-roading. I had Sahara stock and not even once over 2 years of offroading felt any limitations - i drove it on Intermediate and Extreme drives, led some drives as well, with no challenge from vehicle perspective. d.) Sahara over Rubicon - On-road Sahara is super smooth. 18inch rims with Wrangler Tyres, never felt i am riding a jeep. I had limited edition, which had adaptive cruise, forward collision warning - so was comfi heading for long drive. Had that fiber glass rear wheel cover, giving it a G Wagon look and then all black trim looked super slick (again personal choice). My first week onroad with Rubicon made me think if i made the right decision upgrading to Rubicon . Its bumpier and lacks those special features like forward collision warning etc. So genuine reason to go Sahara if more On-road use then off-road. e.) Rubicon over Sahara - Off-road its a beast. Has all that Sahara has plus --- Dana 44 axle is super solid - As Vaibhav already mentioned doesnt need reinforcement - though i never did it for Sahara as well, but if you will add lift (especially 2.5 inch), surely would be better to get it reinforced for Sahara. ---- 18 inch rims of Sahara means if going for bigger tyres, you will have limited options. Few companies have above size 285 in R18. ---- Ofcourse the diff locks, Sahara doesnt have them. Though in last 4 months, i havent used them in Rubicon as well. Perhaps as i am not used to having them, so i tend to forget that i have that feature ---- Fenders are a inch higher - this is big plus, as with Sahara going for 295 would have needed me to get atleast 1/1.5 inch lift, just to avoid rubbing. ---- Aux Switch inbuilt - so ease of adding aux lights etc. ---- Metal front bumpers - If would have retained Sahara, would have surely got it changed to Rubicon bumper. Apart from durability, also it has inbuilt arrangement to fix Winch, if planning to. So, depending on your usage you can decide. On Road Sahara is by far much better, Off-road - yes Rubicon has its edge that justifies the price gap. Plus Rubicon is ready to try wadis (in case you plan to explore that part sometime).

@Vijaya Kumar Doppa Dubai dealers give 5 years warranty and Abu Dhabi dealer gives 3 years. But it does not mean you cannot extend your warranty. Its just a gimmick the dealers do. Other sellers like Offroadzone and Jeepers source their vehicles from Abu Dhabi hence you will get a 3 year warranty but without service package. My suggestion is to do the comparison between both Dubai and Abu Dhabi dealers with price. May be Abu Dhabi dealer would be cheaper as they offer 3 years warranty and no service package. You can always extend the warranty and also take a service package after buying it. No dealers offers extra 2 years warranty and service package free of cost. They add it to the cost of the vehicle. Insurance do not take from the dealer as it is always higher. Take it from outside where you should save around 2k. With regards to the which model, Go for Rubicon as it has a stronger Axel compared to the sports and Sahara model hence you will not have to reinforce it. Plus bigger tires, Lifted by 1 inch and Aluminum bumper where you can fix fog lights later on. But finally depends if you would like to spend that amount. One point for you to remember is any modification you do for any part you lose the warranty for that part. Modification shops will convince you do stuff to your car which is not required and eventually will lift their hands if it is not covered under warranty. Your stock jeep is very capable without any modifications. Just buy a jeep and fix a flag and your ready to go. Good luck and Great choice.

Welcome to the Club @Wile E ! I see you are currently on WL and in the order WL 3, so the 2 other WL attendees before you gets priority, unless its their 2nd drive, in that case the folks with their only drive for the weekend gets priority .. So you can hope for atleast 3 people dropping or convoy number getting extended I remember my younger days with the club and even today - ( On a lighter note - you will soon realise the importance of 18.59 anxiety on Mondays :D followed by the desperate attempt to be among the 10-12 fastest fingers first , ensuring a confirmed spot , all happening in fraction of seconds ) . - Looking forward to seeing you soon in one of the drives !

Welcome onboard @Daniel Rodas Fellowship is now complete.

My Gladiator Sandrunner came from Western motors in Abu Dhabi , it had only 34km and had never been registered, but I bought it from Cars24 , I did get a very good price. And it comes with a lot of standard upgrades like larger axles, fox remote reservoir shocks, rear locker, bed lined and railed, aux buttons, plus other features.. the Sandrunner/Mojave is worth a look I’m guessing the 2024 models won’t be seen here until q2 2024.

Hi @Jithin BenjaminAl Futtaim usually tries to sell these cars at a premium but it is worth it because of the 1Y warranty. How thorough the pre-inspection is from Al Futtaim when they buy this vehicle is a bit of a question. I don't think there shoud be serious issues with a car that's only around 4 years old, but you should definitely research where the car came from (Al Futtaim does this), and look at the maintenance history of the vehicle. If the car has been serviced under a dealership you can perhaps approach that dealership and request to see if all needed maintenance was done. With the VIN number at hand, you can also do a quick search to see if the car has been involved in an accident:

Hi @Vijaya Kumar Doppa it’s all up to you of which you go for, but I highly suggest looking into getting a stock rubicon mostly because you’ll have much more ground clearance compared to other trims and larger tyres, making it the most capable jeep model for off-roading however other trims are also very capable of tackling the desert and mountainous terrain. As for myself I have a 2018 jeep wrangler sport trim, for this same reason I decided to go ahead and modify my car with a 2.5inch lift and a front skid plate. Apart from that I’ve had to replace a stock rear bumper; everything else is stock. Personally I recommend you do anywhere between 10-15 drives to get to know your car before you decide to add modifications if you have gone to a stock model. However you’ll probably find you don’t need them whatsoever.

DRIVE DESCRIPTION South-east of the Badayer region in Sharjah, we have one of the most iconic offroad areas, with massive dunes standing stall and where only the brave hearted ones are allowed to go. Expect a fast paced roller coaster drive with a visit to the famous ghost town to top it off. DRIVE DETAILS Level: Fewbie Plus and above When: 15 April'23 Saturday Meeting time: 7:00 AM - Sharp (Without any exceptions) Meeting Point: Behzad Ranch: https://goo.gl/maps/4BTUAfHXGPHbDSqg8 Approximate finish time: 11AM Type of Car: Any proper 4x4 with front and back tow hooks and 8-10 inches of ground clearance. What to bring along: Loads of water, snacks (for yourself), smiles, enthusiasm and willingness to learn. Mandatory off-road gears: Tire deflator, tire pressure gauge, compressor, walkie-talkie radio, off-road flag, shovel, first-aid kit and fire extinguisher. MUST READ AND COMPLY Offroad Flag Guideline Two Way Radio Guideline Off road Driving Etiquette's Emergency details for all off-roaders Off Road Driving - Roles & Responsibilities LIMITED SPOTS AVAILABLE This drive is limited to 10 cars only. If the RSVP is full, you can add your name to the waitlist, once anyone drops, you will be moved to the RSVP list. RSVP will close a day prior to preparing a convoy list. Latecomers will be returned back - Without any exceptions. Members without RSVP will be returned back - Without any exceptions. Please withdraw your RSVP, if you aren't joining, so your spot can be taken by others. Repeated no-show members after RSVP will have their account suspended for a month Please RSVP on below calendar

Oh we have some additional stakeholders as well ofcourse story couldn’t have been complete without @Mehmet Volga and @Looper - I don’t want to say who is who 🤪🤪

@Bjoern I want to know the secret of ability to do 2 drives same day, same time please - very curious

Based on feedback I have from friends planning to buy cars - no car companies negotiating these days. Though one thing which worked for me - check with Western Motors AD and Al ain, they might have stock and at times prices are better too - though compare config properly as AD models have subtle changes compared to Dubai - for eg fabric seats instead of leather, even there were some diff in rims etc. Also, enquire on demo/management models - i and some more ppl at carnity got a zero Km demo model with some good discounts - was pre registered but never been on road. Every car store has some models registered for events and demos, need to press the button of sales guys to get to know about them. You will lose couple of months of warranty in worst case with these models. Though 254k isn’t a bad price check with off road zone and Jeepers as well for stock models. Maybe you get better color or better price or better delivery.

Hi there! I'm back on the waiting list and eager to join a drive this time. Last week, I tried but missed out. Fingers crossed for an opportunity soon! It'll be my first club drive, and I'll be in my yellow FJ. 😊

Congratulations @AlexM for reaching the Intermediate Level with Carnity Offroad Club. Looking forward to seeing you growing further and helping others to learn the art of offroading in a safe environment. Please make sure your Carnity user profile is always updated with all the latest Emergency contact details. P.S. Trip lead might deny your participation if you don't have required off-road gear. INTERMEDIATE Drives Attended (Indicative) Minimum 10 Fewbie Plus drives are required within last 6 months for Intermediate promotion. What you'll learn Basic GPS and navigational skills Basic tow rope and winch recoveries Extreme side sloping and long hill climb Tall dunes ridge riding and criss crossing Precise control over technical dunes Fast pace desert driving Clear radio communication skills Advance recovery skills Self recover from dune crest Soft sand recovery Pop-out fixing Skills required Adventurous and thrill seeker but in a safe manner Level headed under stressful situations Responsible, dependable and accountable Car Worthiness Capable 4x4 vehicle with low range gearing Suitable approach and departure angle High profile tires Off-road gear required Safety flag, tire deflator, tire pressure gauge, shovel, fire extinguisher, medical kit, radio (walkie-talkie), air compressor, tool kit, rated recovery rope and 2 rated shackles, GPS. Drive teamwork Manage center forward position with Trip Lead’s permission Learn/assist recoveries under Trip Lead’s supervision Re-route convoy and coordination, when needed Learn to lead small portion of Intermediate drive under Marshal supervision Drive Joining Join Newbie, Fewbie, Intermediate and Exploration drives only Forum participation Active participation on the forum Share drive experience + feedback Share drive pictures in the gallery Post trip report after the drive

Congratulations @Andrei S for reaching the Fewbie Plus Level with Carnity Offroad Club. Looking forward to seeing you growing further and helping others to learn the art of offroading in a safe environment. Please make sure your Carnity user profile is always updated with all the latest Emergency contact details. P.S. Trip lead might deny your participation if you don't have required off-road gear. FEWBIE PLUS Drives Attended (Indicative) Minimum 10 Fewbie drives are required within last 6 months for Fewbie Plus promotion. What you'll learn Advance dune and sand reading Advance recovery techniques Rocking and crawling to make path Learn to flatten/compact soft sand patch Self recovery from crest Advance side sloping and long hill climb Advance ridge riding and criss crossing Advance control over technical dunes Slightly faster pace desert driving FULLY control and avoid fishtailing Never fight or challenge gravity Skills required Enthusiastic and positive attitude Willingness to learn and help others Extremely attentive and focused while driving Car Worthiness Any 4x4 vehicle with low range gearing Suitable approach and departure angle Bash plate and skid plate protected Off-road gear required Safety flag, tire deflator, tire pressure gauge, shovel, fire extinguisher, medical kit, radio (walkie-talkie), air compressor. Drive teamwork Manage second lead and sweep positions upon request Intuitive and proactive to support Trip Lead Observe recoveries and offer help, when needed Drive Joining Join Newbie, Fewbie and Fewbie Plus drives Forum participation Active participation on the forum Share drive experience + feedback Share drive pictures in the gallery Post trip report after the drive

Thanks a lot guys. Will make sure all the points suggested are in my checklist.

Congratulations @Andrei Son the promotion

Congratulations @Xavi Moyanoon the promotion

Thank you too Marketa and Jaro. See you guys soon ☺️

@Patrick Gluckwunsh and see you this weekend:) well done!

Well done @Andrei S, congratulations

Well done @AlexM, congratulations

Well done @Xavi Moyano, congratulations.

Congratulations @AlexM

Congratulations dear.

Thanks Gaurav! Thanks everyone! looking forward to exploring new horizons! wroom wroom! 😀

¡Felicitaciones @Xavi Moyano 🎉🎉🎉!

@Tatsiana Chase welcome to Carnity and happy to see you in my drive !

Hi all I am Tatsiana, this will be my first drive in the desert driving my husbands shiny red Jeep Rubicon. My experience so far in the desert is as a passenger with my husband so now I am looking forward to getting behind the wheel and trying this hobby for myself. Our car has all of the necessary off road gear and tow points. looking forward to meeting you all in the sand on Saturday.

Congratulations @Xavi Moyano, Enjoy your new level:)

well done @Xavi Moyano!!

Pozdravlayu @Andrei S. Well done and deservwd.

Congratulations and well done @Andrei S enjoy the new level

Congratulations and well done @Xavi Moyano Enjoy the new Level

Congratulations and well done @AlexM Enjoy the new level

Congrats @Andrei S !!

Well deserved @Andrei S !!

@Mahmoud Taha allah allah congrats

Congratulations @Sam K! Enjoy the new level

Congratulations @Ahmad Nerat on your promotion. Well Done!

New update: After a long gap of 3 months of not off-roading with Carnity or a change of vehicle, you should join at least one lower-level drive, before resuming at your existing level.

Congratulations @Ahmad Nerat Enjoy the new level and will see you there soon inshallah 😁

Well done @Ahmad Nerat, congratulations.

Thanks @Varun Mehndiratta.. looking forward to drive with u more and explore new areas and new challenges. for sure more drives = more videos 🤗🤗

Congratulations @Ahmad Nerat

congrats @Sam K... Well deserved,.. Enjoy your new level.

Well done @Jona, congratulations!

Felicidades @Jona!!! 👏👏👏

Well done @Jona

Congrats @Jona enjoy the new rank!