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Dear friends @Ahmad Nerat @Sunil Mathew @Senthil Kumar and @Pacific see you all tomorrow inshallah, afternoon by 4:30 pm at the meeting point for a quick short yet enjoyable breathtaking sunset 🌅 drive around the pink rock and big red . convoy order will be done on site don’t forget to recharge your radios tonight 😅

Thanks for the update! That makes complete sense, will try to sign up for the other newbie drive then!

This is exactly what I am doing. Thanks

It’s neither Friday nor Saturday it’s Thursday . Fixed thanks

Hey all, it's controlz here (I changed my display name)! By way of update, I settled on a 2021 2dr Rubicon and absolutely love it. Had my first absolute newbie drive on Sunday and very glad about my choice of car. Already doing some basic mods (Apex rapid deflators, flag mount kit, built-in compressor, and finally I have trimmed the bottom of the license plate and moved it to the side, as I have been told by multiple wrangler owners that it will scoop up the sand and I will lose the bumper, so this cheap modification should save me in the long run). Can anybody suggest any iPhone Applications that run on CarPlay which may be helpful in the desert? Thanks

Hello @taz911 the feedback received internally from your first drive it would be better if you drive one or two more drives in day to be able to join the night drives . These advice are for your own safety and nothing else . For night drives unless you are leading (hopefully in near future) , regular lights are enough till FEwbie level.

Dear Gaurav, Thank you so much for the good news. ! I'm glad to reach the Fewbie Plus Level with Carnity, and I'm eager to continue the offroading journey. As a proud member of Carnity, I take this opportunity to thank the club, the dedicated trip leaders, the invaluable support team and fellow members for their guidance, encouragement and support. Once again, thank you for your support, and I look forward to many more amazing off-roading experiences with the Carnity!

@Pavel Pashkovskiy @Mark B First of all this only matters if you're driving in 4LO, but as a part-time Jeeper, I can confirm to this. I always drive my Cherokee in 4LO + 5th Gear, and 4LO + 3rd gear when towing a Patrol 😅 ( @Frederic can confirm this ). The 4:1 is LOW/4LO Gear Ratio, the High/4H is always 1:1, that is why 4L is also referred to as Reduction Gear, it reduces to crawling speed. Link to my old Gear Ratio Calculation post below , but I found another photo that explains better (also below). There are other Ratios that affect calculation: Ring & Pinion (sometimes shorthanded as just Axle Ratio) + Transmission Ratio itself (which is different for each Gear Shift) + Transfer Case Ratio Assuming both Rubicon and non-Rubicon uses Chrysler's TorqueFlite 850RE 8-speed, which is licensed from ZF 8HP50 (used in BMW 5, 7, X3), here is the calculation for both when driving in 4LO 6th Gear (6th gear is where transmission ratio=1.0) for all cars: Rubicon w/ 4.88 Axles (newer ones): - 4L 6th gear = 4.88 x 1.0 x 4.0 = 19.52 final 4LO spinning ratio (bigger means more crawling - less speed). Rubicon w/ 3.73 Axles (older ones): - 4L 6th gear = 3.73 x 1.0 x 4.0 = 14.92 final 4LO spinning ratio. Sport/Shara/SandRun/Mojave 3.73 Axle + 2.71 4LO: - 4L 6th Gear = 3.73 x 1.0 x 2.71 = 10.11 final 4LO spinning ratio. There is an easy solution to this for Rubicon, just switch to 4LO + 8th Gear: - 4L 8th Gear Rubicon = 4.88 x 0.64 (8th gear ratio) x 4.0 = 12.5 final 4LO spinning ratio (close to Sahara's 10.11) OR, Rubicon can drive in 4High with 3rd Gear: - 4High 3rd Gear Rubicon = 4.88 x 2.10 (3rd gear ratio) x 1.0 (4Hi) = 10.25 (very close to Sahara's 10:11 on 4L 6th). Assuming huge price differences between Rubicon and non-Rubicon (I just buy old Jeeps so not sure about new prices now), my recommendation is: if it's ONLY for Sand, then Sport & Sahara as cheaper options are better. You will only drive in 4Lo: most sensors are turned off already + when you're stuck or refusal you're already in 4Lo 😁 BUT if you want to do some rock-crawling and also sand-bashing, then Rubicon is a better choice. Those high 4LO spinning ratio / bigger crawling are useful for crawling uphill and braking downhill at steady low-speeds. Link to Jeep Axle, Transmission, Transfer Case 4L Ratios https://www.jlwranglerforums.com/forum/threads/gear-ratio-chart-for-jl-wrangler.1781/ Link to the Old Gear Ratio Calculator for FJ: