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I am no expert on this but this is always such a touchy topic and mine is usually always an unpopular opinion on it. I really liked how @Myrko articulated what he believes. 4x4s in the desert - may qualify as an environmentally irresponsible hobby - but it is a recreational activity i willingly sign up for every weekend. I can't own a 4x4 and feel guilty for owning one. So much of our personal carbon footprint is beyond our control (the building we live in and the energy it uses, gps via satellites we use which were put up in space by rockets, construction of the roads we use everyday, the military planes that our government uses - they burn at least 2-3X the fuel used by commercial aircrafts, and a popular president used them for a deportation exercises). The CO2 due to our personal fuel consumption is very negligible when put together in context with everything else. One must feel good about reducing their fossil fuel consumption, no doubt about that. But one mustn't be bogged down if their cars burn more fuel than the other. Not contributing to the CO2 already there in the atmosphere is as good as not adding galons of water you stored into the ocean (exaggerated). i consider climate change, carbon footprint very different from sustainability. Again - i am no expert on the topic - this is just my opinion. My views on the CO2 situation are kinda skewed but i am all for preserving what we have. It disturbs me when i notice plastics or construction debris dumped in the desert - i cuss when i see them. I agree with @Mike M.'s purposeful drive idea - it will add to a sense of fulfilment/accomplishment to the drives. That can definitely be a means to add a sense of environmental responsibility to our otherwise environmentally irresponsible hobby.

Thanks @topgear and all the team @Imteeaz @Emanuel @Davie Smooth_Operator @Fredericfor helping with the out. The Tyre did not cause any trouble, however I had to replace the old TPMS sensor and reprogram the new one. Got the desert cleaned out from the Tyre and rebalanced it as suggested by all the wonderful people on the drive. Took about 30 minutes overall and 200 dhs. Nothing hurt except my ego 😅

Dear Desert wanderers, I am working on having a second lead for Saturday to enable us to split the convoy thereby having two convoys this of course means we will be able to accommodate all of you in the waitlist, so watch this space as the week unfolds as we are confident we will be able to make this happen

Thanks for opening the floor for such an interesting topic @Frederic. You have my vote, as a rule of thumb, for anything above and beyond just steering the wheel on sand for 4 hours. For any event within your list of suggestions, consider me as the first one to sign up. From my perspective, I would look at it beyond the sustainability lens as it will eventually become a bi-product on how we evolve our hobby with the outdoor. I will share my 2 cents hoping to trigger some ideas on how to take things forward, under the main umbrella of your topic. Here goes: What I think complements the hobby of "Steering the Wheel on sand for 4 hours a.k.a Dune bashing is a sense of purpose. I call it Purposeful Driving. Purposeful driving can range from anything ranging from Theme drives such as the one led by @DP1011 to clean up pink rock, to driving to remote places (Overlanding) or adventures of any sort (Driving is the just the means of transportation in this case.) On a personal level, my objective of learning how to drive on sand was to benefit from the outdoors of the UAE. While this remains my objective to date, I have noticed many outdoor enthusiasts start with the same objective and then get stuck in Dune Bashing mode probably because it becomes their new comfort zone or they are genuinely drawn into this activity. I think based on the number of people who are stuck on Dune Bashing is the former reason (Just a personal opinion). Trying to keep this as short as possible or this might end up to be a rant of 5 pages, the point I am trying to make is to invite drivers to think of the concept of "Purposeful Driving" and think about what was the original idea(s) that got them to learn how to drive on sand and re-focus on those ideas. By doing so, what is intended to achieve with sustainability becomes a bi-product. Hoping that the above is taken with an open mind and by no means am I criticizing the hobby of dune bashing. I do it with Carnity as well, almost on a weekly basis, but all I am saying is that I do it to keep my driving skills sharp for the other things I like to do, that have a purpose. Once we establish purposeful driving, then that will have a good impact on the carbon footprint and different kinds of hobbies and events will emerge from it. Just my 2 cents...

Interesting topic @Frederic In my line of work, shipping, I see recent and future international legislation to compensate for the fuel used transporting goods. The main question that is still a bit vague is what is done and where these funds end up. From what I can see so far, is that the idea and facilities how to contribute are there, yet the end result of these contributions are unclear to say the least. I feel that until that question remains unanswered to my satisfaction, for my personal fuel usage I will not be participating in offsetting my carbon footprint by purchasing available credits just yet. Current alternatives directly usable for petrol/gasoil engines are rather limited and sparse in availability. On top of that there are significant concerns how "used" used cooking oil is and how sustainable large palm (FAME), corn/sugar plantations (ethanol) are, if used for fuel purposes. At the same time the "green" EV evolution seems to be in line with various government initiatives. However, as long as countries are still very reliant on fossil fuels, read coal, to produce the electricity that is required for these, I feel that if looking at source to final usage, petrol is probably not the worst pollutant overall. Taking in account the effect of mining coals and or materials for batteries the environmental impact seems worse. Recycling of special minerals at this point are also quite labor and energy reliant, so the effects on those should not be underestimated. There are ofc various initiatives in the world producing electricity on a more sustainable way: solar panels, wind or water turbines, but also these all come with some (negative) impact on local fauna or flora, disregarding the resources required for manufacturing. In short, I think the main area where the required resources should be assigned is R&D. Not for quick fixes or moving the source of pollution to another area or further up the production chain. What that means for me personally; keep myself informed on latest developments and ensure I implement improvements over which I have immediate control: change lightbulbs, more efficient heating/cooling, put in energy measuring points, turn off appliances when not in use, absolute no littering, recycle as much is possible and try to plant another tree!!

Thanks @Zubail. Just supporting Freddy’s point from a slightly complementary viewpoint and hoping it can infect other drivers too

@Mike M. you've nailed it! 100% support!

this should be a fantastic drive! unfort a little too early for me coming from AD.. see you on the next one

Hi @Zsolt welcome back to Dubai . i wish if I can accommodate all the wait list ( 4 till now ) however this will make a train convoy which for safety reasons is not advised in the night drive . lets see how thing go till Wednesday or Thursday morning . But no promises 🙏

@Frederic was a truly superb drive with the usual great lines and well thought out plan. always enjoy your drives allowing me to relax at the back Great support from a truly amazing team, in @Emanuel and @Imteeaz always a pleasure to drive with you guys and see how you have grown into leaders, and congrats @Imteeaz on your 100th drive with Carnity. The convoy drove exceptionally well throughout the drive, I believe we did not have any stucks (that i can remember) and just a handful of refusals that were expertly dealt with by the aforementioned support guru's. Hope to see you all in the sand again very very soon,

It’s been a while that I have driven with @Frederic and what a great drive. I brought a passenger to convert him and he was reasonably impressed. Great to see @Davie Smooth_Operator back and roaring about at the rear, directly behind me. Thanks @Emanuel @Imteeaz for the support to the long convoy. It was a great morning drive. The pop out was resolved quickly with great team work. @Tanveer Ahmedi hope the tyre did not present any issues on the drive back. It was my great pleasure to drive behind @J-P L The Jimny was brisk and nimble. I had to dig deep to keep up. see you all next time and have shared some photos in the gallery

With 17inch rim you can use tyre with biger sidewall 265/ (65) /R17 compared with 18inch 265/ (60) /R18 keeping the same wheel size, gives more room for tyre deflation and avoidance of pop out

Glad to hear your back up and running! Look forward to seeing those mods mate 😎😎👏🏻👏🏻

Look forward to seeing these mods soon @Bjoern! Glad to hear all is well.

Hi all, wanted to share my joy with you and especially with @M.Seidam and @Mark B for their support. Just picked up my Jeep and she is stronger than ever before. Had some upgrades done and my favorite workshop did a great job! I look forward to our next drive!