Gaurav

Awesome Noor, now Im not pressurized to get winch as at least we have one winch working for Liwa crossing. Good stuff buddy.

Alright guys, let's cut it short on what bigger tires give better or worst fuel mileage OR move to another thread. Let's go with what owner really gets out of a full tank. PERIOD. Things to check/fix/bring for each Liwa drivers. Gaurav: Sand mats Thuraya with working chip Winch (if possible) DC - AC inverter to charge radio during break Asif: Get outdoor umbrella Big straps and ratchets Sri Fix your suspension Noor Fix your winch (if you can) Saleem Jack stand Workshop Jack OBD scan tool Hammer, wrench spanner, and all other tools, wires, switches etc. Race fuel (as much as you can accommodate, we will shift the load in other cars) We will make whatsapp group for all drivers wives/family, to keep an update thru satphone of our progress. I seriously suggest that after doing the liwa crossing we sleep another night at Hameem and start back in morning. However, this is purely optional based on driver's strength and urgency to reach back home. I will start on 3 Dec morning, anyways to not to stress myself for 3+ hours back drive at night.

@Rahimdad @skumar83 @Asif Hussain @NOOR OMAR @shadow79 Guys, please list your fuel tank capacity and regular on-road and off-road mileage you get, to decide whether one jerry can is enough or your car requires two jerry can. 125 km in a straight line, can easily translate to 200+ km in the desert, so we got to prepare accordingly. My Pajero has 60-liter tank that lasts for 350 - 450 km on-road OR 200 - 250 off-road (my best guess). I'll be carrying one 20L + 10L spare fuel.

Try Dar Al Takaful, Oman insurance and al sagr, but remember to opt for off-road insurance too in comprehensive options.

You can straight away meet at below campsite and deflation point at 7PM on 1st Dec. Just make sure that you are fully equipped with above checklist, as I will personally verify each car for all items and safety gears. Adnoc Service at Al Quaa - Um Al Zomool Road - https://goo.gl/maps/RzQkMSNSZzK2

Very good point Sri, let's meet on this Friday drive and we can discuss and fine tune more details on dinner, breakfast and lunch planning for Liwa.

As this will be the first Liwa drive for Carnity, so we have to make it really memorable for all of us. I have been to Liwa several times, with different off-roaders and clubs but never attempted the LIWA CROSSING. So here is what I am planning: Drive across the Liwa desert in an expedition style drive by beating all odds against the time to cover 125 km in less than 8-10 hours. It is not a dune bashing regular drive, where we could chill and relax, instead, it's going to be a continuous off-road drive with 5 minutes break every hour and one lunch break of 30 mins max. Every driver needs to be very careful and tactical to get the whole convoy moving as fast as possible. In case anyone gets stuck, try self-recovery for a minute or two, and then announce on the radio for quick help. If crested, announce if your car is front or back heavy so that nearest recovery vehicle can position himself quickly. Rest of the driver needs to jump out and help in the recovery process as fast as they can and get the whole convoy moving again with minimal downtime. It's the agility of the whole team and mobility of minds will eventually help us to complete this serious Liwa crossing in one day. Feel free to come up with more time-saving ideas and discuss it through. This drive is not for the faint-hearted as Liwa terrain is very challenging and tiring. This requires the best of the driver and cars to mark this historic drive. So please sign up only if you are 100% confident. This drive requires a lot of dedication, discipline, and commitment to continue driving in rigorous off-road terrain and keep the convoy moving at all the times. DRIVE IS LIMITED TO 7 CARS MAX Date: 1 Dec 2017 Meeting point: Emarat fuel station after Dubai Outlet Mall - https://goo.gl/maps/kHV2yU2XFoT2 Meeting time: 4 PM, drive start after thorough vehicle and safety gear inspection Reach campsite: 7:00 PM, refuel and pitch camp and have early dinner to sleep by 9 PM Breakfast: 4 AM, 2 Dec 2017 and pack cars and start off-road drive by 5 AM Deflation point: Adnoc Service at Al Quaa - Um Al Zomool Road - https://goo.gl/maps/RzQkMSNSZzK2 Lunch break: 12 PM - 12:30 PM - Somewhere in the middle of nowhere Ending point: Adnoc Sevice at Hameem - https://goo.gl/maps/22mM8wuU9UR2 Finish by 6:00 PM - (hopefully, fingers crossed) Checklist: Each and everything will be verified at Emarat petrol station meeting point before starting Your 4x4 should be well serviced and all lubes and fluid should be topped up 20 Liter fuel jerry can 20 Liter water can or equivalent water bottles Air compressor, tow rope, 2 rated shackles, proper shovel, flag, jack and wooden plank Fire extinguisher, first aid kit, radio with charger, mobile with car charger, emergency light/torch Camp to sleep overnight, warm clothes, In case of emergency - contact number printed Enough food for 2-3 days for yourself and others to share - MUST Cooking gas stove and required utensils along with all disposables plates and glasses Dry food, energy bar, cookies, nuts, crisp to munch while driving Stand-alone GPS unit or mobile GPS app that works offline (MotionX for IOS and Geo or GPS tracker for Android) Keep checking this list, as it might grow further in coming days Please RSVP on below calendar

Avoid German cars in that 15-25k budget like a plague, as they have a low resale value for a reason. In German cars, max safe age to buy is less than 5 years. After 5 years till 10 years is 50% chance of getting troubles and if you do, they aren't cheap AT ALL. Anything above 10 years, don't buy unless you have same model donor car handy, as parts will cost you a fortune to maintain. Germans and American cars after 10 years are very risky to own and that's why they loose value overtime too fast as opposed to the Japanese car, that comes with 15-20 years of usable life with reasonable expense.

Approx I think from 3-6 would be good time to hit the dunes, depending on family settling down.

It's time to call a family get-together drive for kids of all age and wives of all stage to cool down in this awesome weather. The plan is to drive to Al Qudra Flamingo and Swan Lake, near Al Qudra oasis. This place gives enough photo ops for shutterbugs and flamingo and swans will keep the kids entertained for hours. We can start soon after the Friday prayer and visit this lake for a couple of hours and play in the vicinity area. Then find a good clean spot for bbq and evening snacks to enjoy the serene lake in the desert. If enough 4x4 turns up, then we can also plan for quick few hours desert drive behind the Qudra lake area and spot few gazelles in the best medium-sized dunes range within a 10-15 Km radius. When: 24th November, Friday 2017 Meeting time: 12:15 PM for praying OR at 12:45 PM for others Meeting Point: https://goo.gl/maps/Sa7LwwMLEb72 (Al Qudra mosque, we will finish Friday prayer and leave immediately) Level of drive: All drivers are welcome Type of Car: All cars are welcome What to bring along: BBQ, Snacks, quick meal, whatever you like with little extra to share Approximate finish time: 8:00 PM, 24th November, Friday 2017 RSVP the below calendar:

Amazing pics Barry, thanks for sharing and looks like now these beauties are spread across all new launches cars to lure as a lead magnet. Am I correct? Or were they displayed in one niche specific segment?

OMG, that's millions of dollar in carnage.....! Damn historic crash. Macau will not see this wide ass GT's ever again in those narrow lanes circuit.

Unless you are driving a rally car, a fire extinguisher can be placed in the boot. In my 20 years of driving out of which 11 years in desert driving, I used my and three other cars extinguisher at once for a car caught fire in the desert when coolant leaked and guy still pushing the car. Can you ask service advisor to move the bracket in the trunk or show you this new rule of "mandatory" explanation?

It's an amazing fleet of cars Dubai Police has, ready for every type of offender to chase (R8, 720, GTR) or flaunt in style with Rolls Royce or beat the off-roader with Patrol. Loved it completely. Just a question, can I also have a metal bumper, please.......!

I'm all in with full support, excitement, peace of mind, energy, enthusiasm and all other bla bla bla. As tomorrow is the end of my roller coaster ride I have been through in last one month at work and really looking forward to chilling out with this nice drive. Thank you, Asif Bhai for this lovely new area.

Are there any known issues in 2012 Range Rover Supercharge model or any specific things or recalls to verify before buying one? I'm considering few options and RR is on the top of that list, so just wanted to check from experts if it's a good buy for another 2 years or not?

I agree with all of the above comments if you DIY you will exactly attend what is faulty and also do it to the perfection like an English saying: If you want the job well done, then do it yourself - real word of wisdom. I usually don't get my hands dirty but I do supervise and counter question even the best mechanic on board here not because I don't trust them, but to really learn and practice someday what they do. I love learning new stuff in car mechanical work out of curiosity and for a reason to be ready for any unforeseen situation. So far I have done below stuff in various cars: Changed spark plugs for Range Rover Troubleshoot vacuum and missing cause in my Pajero Changed thermostat in Land Cruiser Helping hand to barry when we have to rip apart the Pajero manifold in a jiffy for fixing fuel injector leak for a next day offroad drive. Endless desert quick fix or makeshift arrangement in various cars.

It's time to call for an absolute newbie drive in our much-loved sandbox - Maliha - Fossil rock. Looking forward to an easy relaxing drive for everyone with plenty of opportunities to side slope, hill climb, and ridge riding. Absolute newbie or newbies will have great chance to see and learn the real fun that off-roading offers in a very safe and organized environment. When: 10 November 2017 Meeting time: 02:00 PM, convoy will move sharply at 02:15 PM Where: Adnoc Petrol Station Maleha Road GPS Coordinate: https://goo.gl/maps/mzb26kxzte72 Level of drive: Newbie - Fewbie - All are welcome Type of Car: Any proper 4x4 with front and back tow hooks and 10 inches of ground clearance. Plan: Drive, train and enjoy till sunset What to bring along: Loads of snacks, plenty of water - whatever you like with little extra to share, water, liquids, smiles, stories, enthusiasm and willingness to learn. Approximate finish time: 7 PM Please RSVP on below calendar