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Trip Report: Woke up early on Friday morning for the preparations and getting all the party tricks fixed in the car with safe seating for my wife and daughter. Went for Friday prayers which took longer than usual delaying me slightly, this was communicated to @Gaurav bhai who handled the situation well and the convoy was complete and left on time from the meeting point while I was to catch up at the deflation point. As soon as I reached the deflation point every one was deflating which meant I was on time. After deflation and a quick recap on the convoy numbering we were on our way. This time we had used a unique method for controlling a large convoy in this particular area which worked out like a charm. I must say that I am very impressed with @skumar83 choice of area for this size convoy as we made it through in very quick time and loving every dune and moment. He had successfully lowered the level of the drive from Fewbie to Newbie+. There were only a couple of areas in which we needed to be cautious and slow down which was well announced on the radio by Srikumar to lower our speeds and increase our levels of patience. I should recommend all to have handled the terrain very well and adapted well to the white sands of Lisali. I have absolutely enjoyed the drive with very little down time and a good mix of dunes to keep everybody engaged. On the way we were able to catch a glimpse of 2 beautiful Oryx. As the sun started to set and created a beautiful sky we approached the end of the drive, settled near a lake to proceed with the rest of the evening. A lot of people had to leave due to their commitments, however my sincere thanks to those who stayed with us to enjoy the nice BBQ, my daughters cake cutting for her birthday and the awesome tea prepared by @Atif bhai and my wife. The children felt they were released from jail as soon as they were let out from their cars into the open. They enjoyed their evening with big thanks to @Sohini bhabhi who kept an eye on them, entertained them and fed them. She really has a neck for handling small children. My sincere thanks to all for attending the best Newbie+ drive for this season so far. looking forward to every bodies company on the upcoming drives and having an awesome time with all. until next time I bid you all farewell.

What more to ask... had all the fun of driving in desert.... off course different from all the previous drives I attended and feel lot more confident. @skumar83 a big thank you to you... drive was really fast this time... we covered a lot of distance in the desert. My friend left asking me to arrange a rent car for him to drive next time. @Gaurav and @Rahimdad perfect briefing to understand what to expect... excellent guidance... @Atif I now understand role of a second lead and the associated responsibilities. That last minute message saved my bumper and Thanks for towing me out when I was stuck.... overall... excellent drive except for a minor incident. I hope to see you all with the same spirit next time and sort this issue in the best possible way... Again, let’s all learn from it and be cautious next time... cheers.....

Maybe this will help in the future. https://gulfnews.com/uae/report-minor-accidents-in-just-three-minutes-in-dubai-1.2099938

Yes...you will see a circle dot illuminate on the 4x4 indication near the speedometer. It happens only on 4LLc and when you select the rear difflock. I tried but failed and in complete frustration I bought the XJ and to be doubly sure that there will be no upshifting I went for a manual. 😁

@BilalAhmad and @hossein, since both of you are in agreement on whose mistake it is, the best option is to use the Dubai police app and register a formal report so that this dent is fixed by the insurance company

It also happens in 2008 model when Engine rpm crosses 6500 rpm. You can get anything done in a Pajero once you know how to handle it. I'm still learning..

I had LSD (Limited Slip Differential) in my LC100 and 8 out of 10 times it failed in self-recovery. I have rear diff lock in Pajero and 9 out of 10 times it works GREAT in self-recoveries even in some cresting positions

Congratulations @Curid hope to see you joining the forum discussions soon

aaaah ok thanks! Im looking for a 3.8 so just have to find one with that option too then! /Per

All the Pajero's have a central diffloc (4HLc mode) as default. Its only in the top end version 3.8 litre that you have a rear diffloc as an additional locker.

No doubt the drive was wonderful and all thanks to our lead @skumar83 for making it joyable for all of us. Regarding the things you mentiond I do agree we all must abide by the rules set by Lead and all other senior members. Incidents do happen on tarmac, on sand or in life as well and we must face them gracefully. Which I believe I did as I never raised any concerns or started dragging the issue and admitted that mistake did happen from my side at spot though I could have started a debate but which I did not and gave you all the options to indemnify your loss as well e.g ( Police Report, Fixing the panel from the people I know to make sure the job is fone properly and cost effectively). But you stuck to one thing and remained stuck with it and you have all the rights as well. The best legal way to sort out the matter was and is to go to police and register it to claim the damages from insurance and without any heaitation I take the blame so you do not have to worry because when I took my car in desert I was well aware things might go wrong anytime. And regarding ajman garages or dubai garage believe me its not about city or place its all about knowing right people and getting work done in proper manner and the same was conveyed to you over whatsapp. Still I do regret what happened and my sincere apologies for that.

The weather gods have been generous and giving us some nice cool breeze with slightly longer days. We also had a fill in Liwa and a cool down session in the white dunes of Lisali it is time to have a drive for the Newbies. Looking forward to an easy relaxing drive for every one with plenty of opportunities to learn and grow, hill climb, and ridge riding. Newbies and Fewbies will have great chance to see and learn the real fun that off-roading offers in a very safe and organized environment. Level Newbie and above When: 8 February 2019 Meeting time: 2:00 pm, convoy will move at sharp 2:15 pm Where: Adnoc Petrol Station Maleha Road GPS Coordinate: https://goo.gl/maps/ye28yTnTSYr Type of Car: Any proper 4x4 with front and back tow hooks and 10 inches of ground clearance. Plan: Drive, train and enjoy till about 7:00 pm What to bring along: Loads of snacks, plenty of water - whatever you like with little extra to share, water, liquids, smiles, stories, enthusiasm and willingness to learn. Approximate finish time: 7:00 pm Those interested please mark accept on the below calendar.

If this is how it was goin to end.... then what was the point of dragging it for the whole day on forum. Anyhow glad that this chapter ended finally. Thank you very much. My apologies to all the members because this whole convo from nowhere must have bugged many with dozens of unwanted notifications. Cheers

@Barry, I think while offroading a proper locker would be better than a LSD at anytime. Correct me if I am wrong

I have said it earlier to register police complaint at Qudra, mentioned you the same on whatsapp and above comments. I dont know why on earth we did not go to police same time. Now please to end this story without any further questions asked please let me know what time tomorrow we can go to Police Station nearby where incident happened and bring your vehicle for examination and I will bring mine and will register the complaint to get insurance claims for both of us. P.S: I will take the responsibility. Looking forward to hear from you.

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It’s a bit strange. The 2008 LWB gold edition I bought for my wife is a 3.8 but without rear diff lock option. Apparently that gold edition was made for Qatar market mainly according to the seller but I haven’t seen that confirmed somewhere. The Pajeros in other countries got their rear diff lock replaced by LSD and other electronic gadgets from what I’ve read.

and with a SWB if possible...also try to stay away from the 2009 - 2013 models. These models had an unusual problem of automatic upshifting on tiptronic from 1st to 2nd gear I have heard that post 2014 or 2015 this issue was resolved.

Smart selection, the offroad experience will be MUCH better with the rear diff lockers for self-recoveries.

as I know all the 3.8 version would have a rear diffloc. The switch for the same would be located below the aircon controls.

Looks like there is a communication gap somewhere, to be honest. If Bilal admitted his mistake then why so much fuss.....? @hossein if Bilal didn't agree to the custom job of 900, you could have got the police report and let insurance do the job. Look's like this matter has been a victim of WhatsApp ping pong than a quick call to discuss and amicably resolve the issue.

Really wonderful drive, everything was fine, until.... rules are rules, if you want to be part of the group just please follow the rules by the Marshalls. Ok accidents happen but please just get the responsibility over your fault, to cover it. Thank God I didn't bring my family because my son's car seat is at the same side of the accident. I'm not looking for the penalty or coverage of the damage anymore. I gave the car to be repaired in quality condition without his confirmation, because as he expected around AED 300 is enough to repair. This is long story to say, just follow the rules next time if you can't take the responsibility. There is a big difference between end of Ajman repair shops to Al Habtoor, but I got my car to an almost reasonable garage so I will just pay for it. It's a big cumbrance it has caused, even had to rent a car for work these days, but it's part of the game

Thanks everyone for this amazing trip. I’d a lot of fun and was able to learn new techniques. Looking forward to joining again!

1 - You should be able to find a spoiler for 2-300 in the aftermarket parts shops. If you want to go for NISMO parts, obviously it will cost a lot more. Allow for 1-200 if you want to paint it. Installation maybe another 100. People here are fighting for sales so you can always ask for free installation when you’re haggling on purchase price. 2 - Depends on the spoiler. Some are stuck on, some are screwed on. Windscreen bonding glue is great for sticking them on, almost as strong as screwing it on, but it will damage your paint if you want to remove it. Bolt on spoilers can also be stuck on this way. Either way, whichever option you choose, removing the spoiler will cause some sort of damage. Personally, I like to screw and glue. Double security. 3 - Yes, your gas mileage will be decreased but the amount will be negligible. You probably won’t notice. A set of roof bars would have a more noticeable impact on mileage. Anyway, you drive a patrol, when did gas mileage become important? 😊

Is there anyone knows good clean manuel Cherokee for sale?

Morpheus really knows what’s going on

Ooo on my birthday 😁I'm not sure 🤗

I'm sorry to give headaches to others, as we talk on Friday and I check with the garage so Saturday morning I keep it for repair and send the quotation for him, even he didn't say how much that garage he said will repair it, but as I get from him he thinks about very low price (even he don't want to accept paying any amount now) and saying make police report but car in already on repair and tomorrow evening is ready

Thanks, Dear @skumar83 it's little late because yesterday morning I put it in the garage for repair

Its look like you are fine with this condition to don't pay anything, as we talk we decide to finish this matter friendly, because of the police fine, black point, and insurance excess, even you didn't tell me that garage how much will repair the car but its look like your idea is very low and even you don't want to cover that expenses, anyway this is the lesson