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I just wanted to post about this because I think it’s absolutely amazing that @Carnity integrated this. You can now see the number of drives you did, when you did them, with who you did them and it’s all easily accessible from your profile. I have been AFK (away from keyboard) since my car was in the garage for like 2 weeks, I’ve come back to an amazing and very well done and organized way of keeping track of your drives! Good job to whomever had this idea, and to whomever that implemented it!

@Mario Cornejo @Javier Lucero @Shehab Alawadhi @Thomas Varghese @Amir Amiri @Ilya Golubinsky @Lawrence_Chehimi @Jeandre Bezuidenhout @Abu Muhammad @Nizam Deen You're all in the RSVP list for Friday morning's drive. Please let me know if there in any change in your drive plan. Faqa to Last exit is a long drive, we plan to cover almost 100km. As this is a long drive, the end time may be delayed depending on stucks and refusals, thus please be prepared for it. I will be putting out the convoy list tomorrow. Cheers!

What a good news to have this info available. At some stage when I found I need to ask about the record, I thought not to bother any one, I started recording the drives I join on my Samsung note as attached. The list ended up like a track in the desert 🤣🤣. I am sure @Goutam by time every thing can improve, and you might have all your suggestions and more happening. Thanks to @Carnity @Gaurav @Frederic and all others behind this 👏👏👏👏👏

I wrote a topic on this matter: To make a long story short, 4H uses the viscous coupling inside the transfer case to regulate the ratio power going to front and back wheels. This will be around 30% to the front and 70% to the back wheels on most cases. But this ratio can change anytime based on the terrain and torque needed. Its a pretty smart system and works well. 4HLC will lock the center differential, so the car splits the power on a 50/50 ratio permanently. Which can give an improvement on difficult terrains, but not necessarily. Up to you if you want to experiment with both options in the sand, but i do not believe this is related to overheating.. Toyota FJ Cruiser has Torsen differential which works also on torque-sensing technology. I am not sure how different it is from the 4WD select Mitusbishi technology. Xterra does not have this, their 4H locks the front and rear on a 50/50 basis just like 4HLC.

It is indeed a great addition. I had seen it after last week’s drive when I was updating my excel file I maintain for my drives. there was an afternoon drive I could not attend with @Foxtrot Oscar after a couple of pop outs on my JL in the morning drive with @Gaurav and my then dead beat Compressor took 5-10 min to fill up each tyre. That drive still shows up in the list. Perhaps no-shows need to be marked out for clarity sake. There could be also situations where some late entry participants might just come in to join at the time of starting of the drive. It would be great to see details from the admin side added to the database perhaps in a future update such as - the Gaia GPS metrics, officiating members names (lead/2nd lead/ Center Forward/ Sweep etc) and convoy position in a tabular form. I guess it is too much to ask so soon now, isn’t it?

Yes I was surprised to see it and looked into it. Really impressed. You’re welcome @Gaurav I was waiting for an announcement and nothing was announced so I thought I missed it and said might as well say thank you to the people that helped developed this. Also I hope this means we don’t have to mention how many drives we did for a promotion?😂

Thanks @Shehab Alawadhi for noticing and bringing this topic to the surface as I was completely swamped this week to make an announcement for this new feature. Big thanks goes to all the Carnity Team who who were behind the thought process and fine tuning it to the perfection. Second thanks to god send coder who could understand off-roaders language, as we were struggling behind this feature for over 6 months and just got lucky last month with this new programmer who can understand beyond 1010010101010.

It’s a fantastic one added to the tab thanks Carnity 👍

Nothing wrong in sharing. Without discussing there wont be any clarity, I learnt Toyota options now!!!

And this comes from mitsubishi itself. https://www.mitsubishi-motors.com.au/blog/super-select-ll-when-and-where.html 4H - Providing the driver with increased traction on rough roads and when extra control is required on bitumen and in hazardous conditions So at least the latest gen Pajero's should follow this I guess.

@Lakshmi Narasimhan here is how Toyota guides on the use of Low Range (a bit more conservative than Mitsubishi) Off-Road Tips Which Gear Most desert driving over level ground and low dunes should be in High Range. The constant use of Low range causes vehicles to over-heat and consume excessive fuel. Low Range should only be used in specific situations when negotiating an obstacle or for self-recovery exercises. When in Low Range the engine is reviving faster, at any given speed, when compared to being in High Range. But as the speed of the vehicle is slower, the wind flow through the radiator is reduced and the cooling process is diminished. As low 1st has such a low ratio, it is rarely used in desert driving. In most situations is not a viable choice. For self-recovery from soft sand the first option is Low 2nd with a very light throttle pedal pressure. Excessive engine power only spins the wheels and you will go down - not forward or back! Low Range has very useful characteristics especially for controlling your vehicle on steep descents by offering excellent engine braking. This means that when you remove your foot from the accelerator, the vehicle is slowed by the engine and you do not have to use your brakes. Retardation is applied evenly to all wheels through the transmission and the weight transfers associated with foot braking do not occur.

Found it, great feature Carnity!

Welcome the new feature. Hope bells and whistles can be added as we have the core drives tracking in place. If you need more assistance in coordinating with developer you can count on me, I will be more than happy to do this!!!

Wow never knew this exists....great find @Shehab Alawadhi

Oh yes, your are absolutely right, just had a look....

Actually Anish its available on mobile in the bottom just before you reach activities

I think you won't be able to access it from mobile phone. If u use a laptop to go on the website, u will find it on your profile....

Go to your profile and there should be a section called drives. I'm a huge gamer, I play anything from COD to assassins creed to League of Legends (I prefer free roam games though)

AFK 🤣🤣 whats your game bro

Dear Desertnauts a few info to prepare for next Friday drive. The area we will visit is not the usual sand box where we drive every weekend, but an inhabited area, although sparsely, where local farmers raise camels and goats, and grow fodder and vegetables. There is an abundance of tracks, that we'll follow most of the times, except when we'll choose to cross or ride some cordons of dunes (also quite rich in vegetation). The beauty of this area is in its diversity, with plenty of trees, and scenic spots, overlooking stretches of sabkhas dotted with acacia trees, which make them look like like African savannahs. The most stunning feature of this region are the longitudinal dunes, which cover most of the western and southern perimeter: we will drive along them, across them, and on top of their soft sand ridges. The last part if the drive, time and heat permitting, may be a small plateau of soft red sand, ending abruptly in steep slip-faces, right at the foothills of the Ajari Mountains. Red sand against black rock. It will be a scenic drive, with several photo opportunities, so feel free to bring your family, if you so desire. The driving will not be fast, and will not be extreme. Also, considering the quality of the convoy, with a great deal of Intermediates and Fewbie Plus drivers, I would like to extend the RSVP to 12 members. Therefore, the convoy will be composed of @Watteau, @Niki, @MUHAMMAD Kashif RAZZAQ, @imranaasghar81, @Anvar Sadath Bekal, @JeromeFJ, @Ehab, @Rizwanm2, @Nithin Vaidir, @Pacific, as well the 2 additions of @Chris Wing and @PaoloMaraziti. More info, and the final convoy order will be provided on Thursday evening. Have a great week. @Chris Wing, I have opened up the convoy to 12 members, so you are IN. Please confirm. Thanks @PaoloMaraziti, I have opened up the convoy to 12 members, so you are IN. Please confirm. Thanks @andy_macdxb you are now #1 on the WL.

Most Mitsubishi Pajero owners might have heard about the 4WD Super Select II system, which is the control system on their Pajero 4x4. There are a lot of misconceptions on what mode to use in the desert, and the use of differential locks. Below I will describe the functionality of the 4WD Super Select II system and how to use it for offroading in the UAE sand. Also, we will talk about the use of differential locks (center and rear) functionality, when needed. Your Pajero equipped with the 4WD Super Select system has 4 modes. Switching between 2H and 4H can be done while driving (max 100km/h). If you need to switch to 4Hlc or 4Llc you will need to stop the vehicle, put it in Neutral, then select the desired gear. 2H - 2 Wheel Drive This mode is for dry highway roads only, and will slightly reduce road noise and fuel consumption. 4H - 4 High This mode is the one we generally use for offroading in the dunes on most levels. The Viscous Coupling System distributes the power to the front and back based on the condition of the terrain (33% front / 67% rear). 4Hlc: Instead of the viscous coupling used in 4H, this mode locks the front and rear wheels together at a 50/50 ratio. (Center Diff lock) This mode can be used for more advanced offroading or soft areas when required. This mode is not for on-road driving !! 4LLC: - 4 Low with Lock Center differential This mode is used for self-recovery, steep hill climb, and descending from very steep slopes only. The maximum speed you should use 4Llc is 30km/h. Driving beyond 30km/h in Low gear will damage the gearbox sooner or later and should be avoided at all times. The well known Omani hack puts the car in limp mode, and can only be used in Low gear, hence is not recommended to be used if you go beyond this maximum speed. Rear Differential Lock Some Pajero models come with the R/D Lock or Rear Differential Lock. This option can be activated during your self recovery. How does it work ? In normal situations, your rear differential is "open". This means the rear left and rear right wheels can turn at different speeds, and this is necessary because of the speed difference when turning your wheels on the road. When the rear differential is open, and you are stuck in the sand with one rear wheel free, and one rear wheel stuck, ALL the power will go to the wheel that is free, hence recovery is quite difficult. Engaging your R/D lock will lock both wheels on the rear axle (like it becomes one solid axle). So even when your one wheel is free, it will still send power to the wheel that is stuck. The Rear Differential Lock is very useful, but not a MUST HAVE. It will come standard on the 3.8 Models. Drive Mode or Tiptronic Mode As you learn offroading, we generally advise you to keep the car in "D". The reason is that we want you to focus on the terrain and let the car think for you which gear it should take. Once you start entering higher level drives, you might find that the gearbox is a bit slow in reacting, or that it is upshifting or downshifting at the wrong time. This is not always the fault of your transmission, but could also be yourself who is quite nervous with the throttle pedal, making it hard for the car to decide what you want. As a result during offroading the transmission will be constantly shifting and during hot days this will lead to overheating. Tiptronic mode gives you as a driver full control over which gear you want to select. Initially this takes a bit of practice, but soon you will see that you'll be able to keep the car better controlled by choosing the right gear and keeping it in that gear as much as you can. For example during offroading you can keep it in 2nd gear, and shift back to 1st gear whenever you need to tackle a dune. As you can see, the Pajero has a lot of functionalities that might be confusing at the start, but once you start using them it will become clear that the Super Select II 4WD system is one of the best systems for 4WD on the market since a long time.

Dear Experts, I have been hearing from few of my friends and many garage guys asking me to drive on 4HLC in sand rather than 4H. I started researching as well and ended up on habtoor site (for my Pajero’s) with some tips which says to drive on 4HLC for soft sand and steep climbs. But in carnity we are driving only on 4H. Probably if we drive on 4HLC we might not have transmission over heating problem? Wild guess, needs more testing!!! I even tried driving on 4HLC on sand for few minutes (not desert) and there’s definitely noticeable difference in performance of the car which feels good. Please go through the link and throw some light on this topic. http://www.habtoormotors.com/mitsubishi/service/driving-tips/ Looking forward for clarity on this.

Hi @Lorenzo Candelpergher please add me to the drive, thanks

@Lakshmi Narasimhan I drive with 4hlc since i started with intermediate drives and I feel the power on the long climbs…. 50/50 split works for me and I haven’t had the transmission heating issue for last 32 drives!!!!

@Shehab Alawadhi, we will aim to exit at Last exit. But if we face delays with stucks and refusals, with temperature rising, we will have to exit at Solar park.

@Islam Soliman Y62. Xterra is still getting pimped up😀

Hi @Kailas i would like to join your drive. if you can add me to this drive i would like to withdraw from the other drive. Please can you confirm.

@Islam Soliman I am on Mark’s drive but I initially tried to find a spot on the Fewbie plus drive. Would exit his drive if something opens up on your drive. Thanks

@Chaitanya D, I am pulling out myself from this drive. But I will be seeing you in Thursday’s night fewbie drive. thank you

@Nizam Deen, can you please let me know your plan for the drive.

I am not at all aware of the logic behind, what I assume is since it always checks where to supply more power it over heats (working some what similar to D mode). If the central diff is locked, its not overloaded. I cant think beyond this technically. Or might be some flaw in the factory design. But for sure ready to try different options and wanted to overcome overheating problem otherwise it takes away the fun and I start worrying about when I will encounter the problem.

What Fred is referring to is the transfer case. You are referring to the transmission overheating. Two different things

Definitely old gen this problem is not there as few marshals are driving without any problem. Only the new gen Pajero has this problem and as it is suggested by mitsubishi its worth giving it a try on new Pajero as they might have changed something like smaller transmission cooler or the path of oil flow etc...

Hi @Ale Vallecchi unfortunately i will not be able to join, feel free to remove me and add someone else.

🤦🏽‍♂️ That taught me you are not enquiring about driving in low range… you looking for guidance on the locked diff option! I should not have replied lol…. You did ask for experts (apologies Lakshmi)! Though I have now learnt Pajero Offroad gear options!!

Where is this?

Copy that @Goutam. Thanks

Yes definitely. Thanks a lot.

Dear @andy_macdxb, dear @Goutam, I have decided to increase the final number of drivers to 14, so if you wish to still join this drive, please send me your confirmation, and I will add you to the convoy list. Thanks a lot.

Nice one @TT_Dubai ! 🍻🎉

Small suggestion, instead of carrying a spare why cant we get one for those in Abudhabi, this will solve the problem.

I think they've completely gone the Discovery route on this as well with too many electronics. I am not an expert but usually electronics are more of a hindrance than actual support. Machine learning is improving but has some distance to go before it can be fully relied on. From the package point of view it has all the bells and whistles but the price tag is so steep.

Thank you so much Richard. On that legendary drive @Veedoosheeand I met Gaurav, Marjan and you for the first time. And we can never ever forget the assistance and care that was provided to us by @Gaurav, @Wrangeld and @Jeepie in that situation. Looking forward to make much more memories for us and all other members with Carnity.

Oh yes memories of those drives😬☺️...has been an amazing journey we embarked on with the Carnity family... definitely looking forward to the fantastic future adventures together...

@Anish S I believe that in the PC (pre covid) days Anish arrived at a legendary drive in Fossil Rock which was probably my first exposure to the stresses and requirements of leading drives. Day turned to night and Anish (with @Veedooshee by his side as always) found the going a little challenging, falling into a pocket and needing some guidance and assistance to get out of the dunes to safety. Wow - what a ride: literally. From that first drive to an Expert in Carnity, leading drives and a part of the leader group. As you'll imagine, I could not be happier for you and delighted to be able to welcome you into the leaders group in the club. It's totally deserved and earned. Our members have a lot to which to look forward in the future, with you at the helm.

This sounds BANGING!

With my cost effective solution for night drives. These are 4 halogen headlamps borrowed from a vintage motorbike model supported by high wattage halogen bulbs . They have the low & high beam with total power at 660 Watts at high beam and 320 watts at low beam consuming 55 Amps at high beam & 27 Amps at low beam with all 4 lights switched on during demanding times. I have aimed the low beam straight ahead and the high beam should show more dune when the car climbs as its aimed up. If it doesn't help I can push the headlights down and make it normal. Hope the alternator can cope up with this much demand. Can switch the lights on and off as pairs. Anxious to test the contraption on the next night drive in the desert. The center pair are convex glass with a parabolic reflector which acts as a long range spot light and the side ones are flat glass with parabolic reflector which I think will work as a side shooter.

Indeed, this new defender seems to have some issues. There is a YouTube Channel: The Fast Lane, where they had gone though 3 cars to finally see a car that worked.