Gaurav

Perfect for me and my son, who can't tolerate much of heat and always prefer chilling ice cold AC.

And it's an excellent example you made. Too good.

Here is the video guys

I totally agree @ma7amad that barry's couple of opening sentences came out bit harsh, but I know him personally since long and I can guarantee that that's not what he meant to insult or belittle you or anyone on this forum. For the same, he has apologized it even, as sometimes written text lacks the emotions and feelings as if two guys are standing and debating in a workshop with a couple of rights and wrongs. It's just that same thing sounds too harsh on a public forum. You seem to be very knowledgeable as well, and I really suggest you take active participation so that we can all learn from your vast experience and knowledge and maybe you can learn something new from forums.

My pictures are uploaded in the gallery: https://carnity.com/gallery/category/43-jabal-jais-21-sep-2017/ Awaiting to see pics from Rahimdad, Basit and Saleem

It's a very good question and very well put, writing a lot of people similar confusion in words. I have advised plenty of my colleague on this exact issue. To start with, I have been driving for last 15 years in Dubai and 10 years in offroad. Best advice is to keep the separate car for offroad for the endless reasons, (too long to list here). However, if as a beginner you still wish to have one ride fits all need, then you can choose any American, UK or Japanese cars (plenty choices), but when you consider 5-10 years of age used car then the only choice you have is Japanese folks per below list of order: Prado (AWESOME) Xterra (AMAZING) Pajero (3.8 - Good, 3.5 - OK, 3.0 - NO) Pathfinder - (Post 2006 shape - NOOOOOO) The only American ride after 5 years of age can still ride good in sand is Jeep Wrangler or may be cherokee (not grand cherokee). These cherokee and Grand were awesome prior to 2004 shape, but hard to get one clean now, which has not been abused already. Ford explorer - NO Ford explorer - sport trac truck - Yes (with 2 inch lift) F-150 trucks - Yes, but expensive in maintenance Overall Japanese are more reliable and maintenance friendly that's why people choose them as a first choice especially in offroad.

Awesome initiative and excellent choice of area @skumar83 Count me and Rahim bhai in with full support. I am so impressed to see the way you have compiled the whole drive thread for the first time, is absolutely perfect. Keep it up. Finally, we can taste some new style of driving this Friday. I am so excited that I can't wait for this one, especially after driving behind you and Basel in last drive for the first time.

Hi Sertac, welcome aboard. To answer your offroad rig question, do you have any budget in mind to start with? And whether you want to have daily driver as an offroad capable or wish to have two rides?