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As an update, got my car back after 1-3 were done. Car felt more responsive, but it could be "feeling better after doctor visit" syndrome 😅 

Will test it this weekend on the sand, let's see!

PS: surprised how still clean the Throttle Body is 

i'm sad with @Gaurav's comment that I may need to part with this LC when I reach Expert Level (or Intermediate maybe?), but was comforted by @Frederic's comment that this LC is great for family camping, so I might stay with this LC for more years before parting with it... no rush to reach Expert Level with SWB yet 😊

Hi all, I feel like my old 2002 LC100 that has stocked up 200,000 miles (320,000 kms) is not accelerating as much as I want to and seems to have "not enough power" when going uphill. I know cos I've floored my gas pedal to the bottom, but the V8 just isn't fast in responding. I've been reading quite a bit on this issue on iH8Mud  and this page from an Auto Service . 

I've also asked in Land Cruiser forums in FB, and basically has a list of parts to replace, obviously won't do them in one-shot (don't have infinite money yet 😁), so I've ranked them according to my sense of urgency below:

1. Replace Fuel Pump. Based on iH8Mudder that said "Immediately mine ran better and with the age of my engine it made sense"
2. Replace Fuel Filter. Cos might as well since I'm replacing the Pump... The engine needs good supply of gasoline in order to produce that power.
3. Clean Throttle Body, cos cleaning should not be expensive.
4. Check Exhaust issue: here I'm not sure what to check. Can anyone shed some light if they previously found exhaust issues to be the cause of engine power loss? Problem is the Catalytic Converter costs US$ 2,000 on Parts.Toyota.Com !
5. Replace Mass Air Flow (MAF) Sensor and Oxygen Sensor , since Combustion Engine works by mixing Fuel & Air, so need the right amount of air to properly mix and produce power.
6. Replace Throttle Position Sensor (TPS), this controls the Throttle Body so need to ensure properly giving correct readings.

I'm doing #1-3 now, so the question is: for those who have replaced Fuel Pump & Fuel Filter & Clean Body Throttle,  did you guys notice a difference after doing them?

Here are 2 videos of my mechanic replacing the Fuel Pump & Filter:

@Rahimdad  haha I used to get the latest ThinkPad laptops every 2years but i managed to stop that now, wifey said similar comment along your line, "you're gullible to tech ads", "why do u need the latest & greatest, it won't improve your coding much" 😂😂😂

That's why in yesterday's drive, when I saw Asif did the exact same thing without crawl control, I'm now (more) convinced that this can be done without computers too 😁 And now I want to intentionally get stuck and "crawl manually" 😅

As someone in the IT field, I'm always fascinated with technology. And so when I saw the video below I was initially hunting for a second-hand LC with Crawl Control.

But in yesterday's 5th Feb Khatim drive, I watched @Asif Hussain bhai doing this with my 2002 LC100 😃

I almost gave up and think that now I need to get towed, but seeing him patiently turning left-right and doing it with an old Cruiser makes me want to intentionally get stuck again and try doing this Manual Crawl Control 😅 . I'm sold now, there's no need to get the latest SUV for offroading, since anyways computers, software and AI learn from tried & tested manual human techniques 😁

Folks, Abu Dhabi is foggy this morning. I suggest drive slow and late is better than rushing it... 

Thanks @Mohamed Seidam for your tips. Luckily for me, the ABS, VSC TRAC and VSC OFF warning lights are always on when I start the car, so this LC is permanently for offroad 😂😂😂

awesome reply @Gaurav as usual... agree that Lift now should be last on my list cos it only makes sense if it's going to be a long-term relationship with this LC100. 

Now i' totally convinced to go with Yoko Geolandar 👍

For the drive on 29-Jan may not be able to make it, wifey confirmed to go camping with friends on Thu 😅

Thanks bro @Ahab Shamaa , good info on bigger tires require more horsepower!

Hmm yes I forgot that we do a lot of downhills, so bash plates are important. 8mm minimum, ok I'll note that. I guess changing front bumpers too, but seeing this is a 2002 Land Cruiser, I can live with "broken" bumpers for a while until some body works is needed 😂

For Pedal Commander, is that the responsiveness of kicking the throttle? How is it different compared to Chip Tuning? I've heard chip tuning can increase your horsepower & torque and turn Throttle Response Rate Increase...

Thanks for another "no-need-Methods-wheels" advice, I think I'm not excited about beadlocks anymore 😄

Thanks @Rahimdad, the plan was not to do ABCD in one shot, but one mod every 2 months (to feel before & after mod + of course saving up for the next mod). Wow 2 pop-outs in 12yrs? Ok cancel the beadlocks then, I think I'm watching too many Jeep instagrams 😅.

What do you think about the tires tho? Heavy tires might sink into sand, that's why people go to 10psi. Geolandar ppl say is not heavy, but not sure why the LandCruiser club on FB is bashing Yoko and recommending Toyo instead.

Why lift kit? Hmm yeah I just assume higher ground clearance equals less chance of stuck since sand will not easily touch the chassis. But maybe it's better rock-crawling and less effective for sand?

Definitely will join the drives again... just got the LC100 V8 yesterday so i missed signing up for @Gaurav's Sweihan, next time then 🙂

Excited today cos I just renewed my Carnity Subscription and got a sweet deal on an LC-100 V8 😁

InshAllah I will join next Carnity drives (if they're in Abu Dhabi), and so with an old car, it's time to turn this off-roading thing into a hobby (hobby = something you'll spend monthly on 🤣 )

To all the seniors who've modded their cars, what do you think the order should be? (no such thing as 100% right order, so preference opinions are fine)

For the list below, my order of preference is ABCD. If you think I should do differently, please advise why, so it'll add to my learning 🙏

A. Change tires.
After extensive research (reading hours until midnight), it seems my LC-100 can fit 285/75x16 without rubbing. Options are:

• Kumho Road Venture AT51 (what https://www.pitstoparabia.com/  offers if I type 285/75x16). These tires will give extra 1" lift without suspension kit.
• Stay with stock size 275/70x16 which means I can go for Yokohama Geolandar A/T G015 or BFGoodrich T/A KO2 (premium! 😭)

B. Lift 1.5",
cos anything more would require diff-drop. If I opt for the Kumho 285/75x16, maybe it will be total 2.5" lift achievement ? 

C. Beadlock wheels
Beadlock technology (or BeadGrip if using Method wheels) supposedly hug your tires tighter to prevent tyre pop-out. Considering I've experienced a rollover with popped-up tires (not sure if the tires popped during the flip or before the flip), maybe this is a safe investment? My only problem is my lack of knowledge in this department cos the stock wheel spec is 8Jx16 ET60, which means 16" diameter rim, 8" width rim with 60mm offset. I can see beadlock wheels in 16x8 spec, but most offset is 30mm instead of 60mm, so not sure if it fits?

D. Bash plates
to protect the underbody...

Anything else to add to the list that is important as a first series of mods? Thanks in advance folks...

On 12/4/2020 at 5:25 PM, Gaurav said:

In my humble view (no disrespect intended) you kept on fight with mother nature on soft sand crest to prove some point and then it was too late for you to steer downward and due to sand wall already in place of left tire resulted in rollover. Even when you have failed to prove your point, if you would have left the gas, you would have had a nasty stuck, but that could have been much better than a roll over.

Thanks @Gaurav , this is some awesome Fatherly advice there! Now that I think of it, yes, I had the option of skipping the top crest by going sideways and continue following from below. But why did I kept on following the convoy?!?!?!? Haha, strange how Ego is undetected within oneself, but easily pointed out by (usually a more senior) person with experience. This is a very good lesson learned indeed, thank you again Gaurav Ji!

Nice pics @Srijith Gangadharan 👍🏻 Wow I see Prado and LandCruiser, besides the regular Pajeros, group has gone diverse too, missed the drive 😊

Thank you all and to @Mohamed Seidam for giving another spot-on advice there. I really love the community wisdom from different perspectives here 👍👍👍

I also remember another thing, which is visible from the time stamp at around 11:30 noon. We were done at Nagra Hill, this was probably 2-3km from the highway as we are exiting and concluding our morning drive. I guess the heat and the hunger for lunch made all of us speed more than we should have done. Another lesson learned, when it's time to leave the dunes and racing back to the highway, do it just as we enter: in a nice slow fun fashion and not too rushed to catch some appointment.

Thank you all, looking forward to rejoin Carnity Sweihan and Khatim drives next year 😄

20 hours ago, Gaurav said:

Can you share the video 30 - 60 secs prior to this footage?

Even better @Gaurav, here's 5-mins video before the rollover.

See, it started off just fine like any other Solar Park drives, flat then up-down 😄 ... as we say, it's nasib... what's meant to happen just happens

10 hours ago, Chaitanya D said:

 

Second car exited out as soon as there wasn't any momentum, which you should have followed. We all learn from these mistakes and I hope what matters at the end of the day is that you are unhurt and safe. I hope the car had off road insurance and repairs are covered. Take care

This is Very SOUND advice @Chaitanya 👍🏻 . Agree: if the car in front of you exit, you should follow exit regardless you have momentum or not. This way, you won't have to worry the car in front of you will suddenly be on your left-side or right-side as you'll have time to manouvre  even if he drifts or spins like crazy. 

Thank you, definitely lesson learned 😊

12 hours ago, Srikumar said:

From what little I saw it didn't seem like anywhere between Newbie to Fewbie.

so does my war wound warrant a status upgrade? *joking

Just realized recently that Carnity still does weekly Abu Dhabi trips, so I will stick to that in the future (either in my repaired Patrol or some other 4x4 - here's wishing for something after new year 🤞 *fingers crossed)

12 hours ago, Gaurav said:

Can you share the video 30 - 60 secs prior to this footage?

Sure will do that after coming home from office today 👍🏻

29 minutes ago, Srikumar said:

2. Once you lost the momentum, you should have steered down , i.e, towards the left side

Thankfully there was no physical injury and you are safe. A question, what was the level of the drive that you were participating in?

Thanks @Srikumar for the always helpful tips. Regarding #2, I suddenly remembered I did turn my steering wheel to the left cos I remember @Rahimdad briefings kept on saying "don't fight Gravity!". I preferred my nose to go down first so I immediately turned left when I lost momentum, however I felt that my Patrol rolled over immediately as soon as the steering went left 😢

As for the drive level, this was with a couple of friends, not an "official club". We went to Nagra Hill in Sweihan. The drive was very similar to my last Qudra 15 May Drive led by Mr @Srikumar , with a lot of side walling and I think we did a few ridge riding too? I remembered cos this is where I broke my bumpers and started the thread "Should I fix my Y62 bumpers or buy second-hand Jeep?" 😂

So I guess, I dunno, between Newbie to Fewbie? 😬

Alhamdulillah I survived a rollover that happened yesterday. I've been watching the dashcam recording and trying to remember what I did wrong, but my brain seems to block the memory of the moments before it happened, so I'm reaching out to the experts here, what could be the cause of my rollover? *dashcam video attached below

Some stuff that I can think of:

a. Did I lose momentum? The bottom speed timestamp says I went from 48km/h, 46, 44, 37km/h before rolling over.

b. Did I get a tyre pop-out? When I got out of the car, both of my left tyres popped out. I had to use a jack and fill them up to 40psi to make the tyres pop-in back again and to drive the car outside the desert. But maybe the left  tyres popped out due to the rollover to the left? If that so, why are my right tyres intact (right tyres didn't pop out). I was driving with 15psi all tyres btw.

c. At the 00:02 footage, you can see the Jeep in front of me swerved to the left. What the camera didn't show was that the Jeep went on drifting on my left side instead of exiting gracefully with the nose down first. Basically in a quick moment I turned my face to the left, seeing a car on my left side and scared that if I also exit-left-with-nose-first to go with gravity, I might crash into the Jeep... could I have done something wrong with my reflex? Like maybe letting go of the gas pedal to slow down cause afraid of crashing with the car on the left side. Someone said "look front when driving off-road and don't be distracted by left and right sightseeings." I should have focus straight and not be afraid of my left side.

d. I was the last of the convoy, so nobody was behind me, otherwise maybe that person could tell from behind what went wrong...

Dear @Srikumar , with a heavy heart I had to leave this event due to my Patrol sent to the body workshop.

Next time we meet, I can tell the group the tale of "Rolling Patrol", to add to the previous "Flying Pajero" as lessons learnt 😂   Carnity is the safest offroad group I've been with, and I think better stick to it next time... or forever 😅

Good news for those in the waiting list, there's 1 slot available now! 😁

Yay, I'm in, even tho 1hr late after reg opened 😅 . Glad to be back with the gang after some months building up antibodies 😊

Thanks @Gaurav and @Wrangeld  for clearing up the Jeep's reality distortion field 😄 ,

I think it's clear now, time to go bargain hunting, this looks like a good deal ☺️ https://www.offroad-zone.com/product/jeep-wrangler-tj-2006-sport-gcc/ 

I'm fascinated by Jeeps ever since I follow @TheOffRoadClub on TikTok, below amazing vids:

Is Rubicon worth it? That Sway bay disconnect button seems useful 😄

Hi @sertac man why you gotta bring that up?😁 Now i just had a seizure of flashback where my Pajero went flying (this is why my feet usually brake automatically on the tip of dune pyramid, to prevent flying again) and hit the back of Nissan Armada v8. I think that Armada went for total loss and I felt so bad 😢

Flash-forward now, yeah I want to avoid to be in that same situation. Cheaper car, yes definitely to avoid total loss where insurance gives you puny amount of cash, but at the same time Strong Metal to protect your head for when that flying thing lands on your car *knock on wood

Speaking of Jeep, should I be worried after looking at this:
https://www.iihs.org/ratings/vehicle/jeep/wrangler-4-door-suv/2020

Thanks @Gaurav and @Frederic , Fred's remark on resale value hits the spot right there on the heart... so now i'm leaning on getting a 2nd car for off-road purpose. Question for @Gaurav : why is XTerra better than Patrol for offroad? I mean both are Nissan... example if I look at this ad https://tnydu.biz/DOy9Ol  for a 47K XTerra, will I have bumper issues like Y62 too? Or at least that can be used as baseline for further modifications...