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Agreed @DP1011 finding the sweet spot is crucial and that sweet spot changes on several variables. As someone whom drives a Jeep Gladiator I’m already at a disadvantage for climbs, carrying an extra 250+kg compared to short and long wheel base Wranglers. Climbing needs to be approached with care, and momentum which can be hard to maintain with the amount of crosstracks in popular climbing spots around Dubai. i also use “Part-Time” and off-road plus on alL my drives. Anything in the range of iftar bowl I’ll use tiptronic as my jeep has a terrible habit of change up to the next gear just as momentum is sapped. At the same time the Jeep gearboxes computer also has a terrible habit refusing to change down with a shift not allowed message when it does not like the rev range . one crucial component of a climb is the slope you are climbing, this is hard to judges visually by the nature of large dunes playing with your visual perception. for the throttle always feather, as it’s not connected by a linkage it’s always better to have scope push a little harder assuming the jeep computer allows it. Incidentally I drive lower than 11psi -t the start of drives, but I’m running geolander all terrains the Light truck variant, these have stiff sidewalls and extra layers compared to the regular AT.s my advice next time you are out there at a climbing spot, ask the marshal if you can do a few more practice runs. This immensely helps to build skills and consistency and then there are some days that no matter what, you just are not gonna get as far up as you want, don’t push it and accept there will always be another future drive.

Hello. I had a question from yesterday’s drive and would appreciate any guidance from the seniors. While going up the big dune (where we went up, made a left and came down two times), my car was losing momentum in 2nd gear so I stayed in 1st gear. Due to lack of experience, I had my foot pressed on the pedal at all times. As a result, I would hit the rev limiter, engine would cut the power, revs would drop down to 5ish thousand but since my foot stayed planted, as soon as power was back, I would again hit the limiter and the process repeated. As a result, it was a jerky ride up with power cutting in and out. I am sure what I did was not right and maybe a better approach, in hindisght, would've been to feather the throttle on the way up but wanted to get your thoughts on the same. Thanks.

As you always say Finding the "sweet spot"🤘🏽🙌🏼

Don't drop 12 to 9 immediately, as you need to adapt as well to handle smoother curves and absorb bumps proactively. In case of Deepak made a diff, but after that 1 climb, we inflated back to 10 or 11. Am I correct @DP1011. You can try 11 on the next drive, then after that try 10 on the following drive. 9 is too low for 4 door Rubicon weight in my opinion. Better to climb 1 less dune, than having pop-out and damaging TPMS on every drive.

Thank you @Simon D I enjoyed the fast-paced nature of the drive hitting off all the key dunes in Tawi Nizwa. I think drives like these are always important not only for the support team but for all attendees, it allows us to practice and sharpen skills that are often left untouched, nevertheless this drive had everything from paced dunes to problem solving recoveries, I hope for everyone involved learned something new about different terrain landscapes and how we can repair pop-outs alongside torn tires. @Imteeaz Great seeing you again mate, thanks for the amazing support. @Mahesh_ @Andrew John Melvill @RiadJL it was great catching up with everyone I hope to see you on the next one. Enjoy the rest of your week.

Thanks @Simon D for this amazing drive; after 4 months of being away from the sand, it was great to catch up with the team. Overall the drive was fun, exciting, and tiring at the same time; the pop-out and tyre swap are part of what we have signed-up for. @Benjamin thanks for your support @Mahesh_ @Andrew John Melvill @RiadJL thank you for turning up on time for this drive and it was a pleasure to meet with you. Until next time - drive safe

Deepak sir, I have no more PSI’s left to go down on 😂 I second this, @Frederic made a bold decision to bring down 5psi since then it did wonders for me 💪

Thank you @DP1011 for your suggestion. I was running 12 PSI on all tires and will keep the pressure in mind going forward. Also, noted on the AC and will keep it off for climbs. Thanks very much again.

@Abhishek Chikara - I have got hardly anything left to whats already highlighted. One thing that made a huge difference during my FB+ days - Reducing 2 PSIs. We had a decent size dune, and I noticed compared to @Benjamin Whose climb was as if its onroad, and letting @Gaurav Have a go with my Jeep and then his suggestion to go down 1-2 PSI, so from 11, I went down to 9, and I felt happy that there was nothing wrong with my machine😂 AND in addition to this, yes ofcourse triptonic, but with AC off also makes a difference at times for steep dunes!

The above seems to be estimated torque curve for JL in first gear. So it seems it's not productive to go beyond the 5000 rpm point. The best way to is to anticipate the gear and climb and generate enough momentum and keep the pedal modulated (not flooring) to keep the rpm between 4000-5000.

Thank you and duly noted @RiadJL I will use the offroad mode during the next drive and hopefully it'll be much smoother since I am positive I am over stressing the engine presently in 1st gear even when not really required.

POST OF THE YEAR. So perfectly elaborated!!

@Abhishek Chikara Jeep's handle relatively funny when it comes to climbing especially in different dune environments. The first thing that could be contributing to this rev limiter doing that would potentially be traction control or electronic stability control (more likely) kicking in when you begin to climb. So, when you're in 4H make sure to press and hold the traction control button for 10 seconds shortly after you'll get a charm sound which means TC and ETC are both off (in my early days this was contributing a lot to my issues in climbs I was just turning off TC) Now if you have already done that and your engine is still limiting your revs try using Tiptronic manual on all the large climbs you'll want to be in 1st gear until 5000 rpms change to second (remember to let off the throttle anytime you change gears, it makes a large difference when you lay back down on the power) once you begin to drop in second gear switch back to first repeating the same foot-work. (Sometimes in the jeeps the gear change acts a little off if you just lay on the accelerator my take is some software preventing throttle within the change of gears but I'm unsure) If you're still facing the same problem, there are two things you can do. Either you're in 4H auto and the computer is learning this more aggressive driving style (high likelihood) so more drives = computer adapts better to your command in the future. or you can try using 4H part-time. (FYI 4 auto is 4 wheels turning based on computer processing where to send the power 4 part-time is 4 wheels spinning all the time) my recommendation is to stay in 4H auto though. Overall, I've faced your issue before, and I think you can eliminate that rev cut by using both tiptronic gears and correct foot-work into your climbs to maximize momentum and rev issues. on a side-note practice on flat-ground to figure out which RPM and gear gives you the most initial torque that will also make a world of a difference by changing your gears within the right RPM threshold. Keep an eye on coolant temp 110 degrees is overheating

Dear @Mahesh_, @Andrew John Melvill, @Imteeaz, @RiadJL, @Benjamin. It have been nice to see you all again after some time everyone drove really good , the weather was acceptable but a bit windy . The first half consisted of the warmup and practicing and wakening up our maneuver instincts by going through some awkward and angles before hitting the sharp edges and the tall dunes. we slowly increased the pace over those wonderful dunes, till we stopped for the break. unfortunately, the 2nd have was not as fun as the 1st half of the drive as i got my front tire slashed by a rock and we had to practice changing the spare tire process 😂. after we fixed @Mahesh_ pop out i decided to exit at 2nd of December. Thanks @Benjamin and @Imteeaz for the support and @Mahesh_ for the Sweep looking forward to see you again

Indeed. 😃

Another drive that lived up to it's name, a lovely fast paced roller-coaster thanks @Simon D! A big thanks to the support team of @Imteeaz and @Benjamin for the advice and working hard with the flat tire and pop out! To @RiadJL and @Mahesh_ great to drive with you guys again, always good! All in a very good Sunday morning!

Thanks @Simon D for organizing the drive this morning First half of the drive was amazing - extremely fast paced, challenging and exhilarating - really enjoyed it! Unfortunately after our first break we ran into some bad luck with your puncture followed shortly after with a pop out for @Mahesh_. Great work from @Benjamin supporting on both those repairs Really good to meet you @Imteeaz and always a pleasure @Andrew John Melvill Have a good rest of your weekend everyone! See you again soon