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Yes, there were coins instead of a 4WD selector shift, I don't think coins will help in the middle of the desert. BTW @sertac Dubizzle does have short link at bottom as well. https://tnydu.biz/DOybZj

I've used them in the past while off-roading in rocks. They are useful as long as you have the right surface and your car has the correct Jack points. But they are super dangerous we had to make sure nobody came close the car since they could easily be tipped on the side and the use of Jack stands is a must. I agree with you. There's times where I had to dig because the floor jack won't even fit when recovering vehicles with a pop out, I can only imagine having a bottle Jack would make things even worse. Specially for low clearance vehicles like xterras, pajeros, Pathfinders etc. Pretty much anything that is not a Jeep. I can remember one year ago a Pathfinder had a popout in a very difficult angle in the middle of a ditch, I took us more than an hour to fix the pop out and recover the vehicle out of the ditch I'm sure @Emmanuel remembers this.

This is well fabricated and a good idea. Just be aware of the fact that in the desert most likely you’ll need to be able to insert the jack from weird angles and have very limited space. That will create issues for a bottle jack I am afraid. Secondly, once you reach higher levels on the off-road ranking, you will be fixing pop-outs on other vehicles too, so your tailormade solution won’t work anymore.

Congratulations @Ale Vallecchi...very well deserved, so happy for you, you are highly skilled...

I would recommend the JZX 2 ton Jack as it has a wider base which would give better stability. Plus you can get it with the swivel neck. DM is just like any other shopping mall and I have been there recently and it's hardly crowded. If you still have apprehensions you could call the store and ask him to deliver it to you outside DM. I am sure they would do it.

Welcome to Carnity ! Most of these things you will only find in Dragon Mart. See the advice below:

Congrats, well deserved @Lorenzo Candelpergher Enjoy the new challenges. see you soon in sand 😇

Thanks dude, its been very long time see you on my same drive. Its may be because now you don't interested on newbies drives right 😉 keep going dude 👍

Congrats, well deserved @Xaf Enjoy the new challenges. see you soon in sand 😇

Congrats, well deserved @Nacho Enjoy the new challenges. see you soon in sand 😇

Unfortunately it's a 2WD model.

@Frederic I've signed up for the Qudra drive and exited this one to create room for anyone else.

Great tips as usual on this thread from all the experienced people. Kudos. Well we all know the fun part being in the drives for some time, but you all have done more for sure and you know very well what it takes to get out from a difficult situation. That's what matters and probably it gets more serious and comes with more responsibility that you progress in the experience. I am telling this after seeing few difficult situations where we all as a convoy group came out on road well in time . Great learning 👍

Congratulations

Congratulations

Congratulations. Well deserved. 🏜️

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Congratulations @Xaf. Well deserved

Thanks @Gaurav, for the constant leadership, and thanks to the whole Carmity team, particularly the Marshals @Rahimdad for introducing me to the Club and inspiring me to pursue desert offroading, @Srikumar for my baptism as an absolute newbie (that first experience is what makes you come back), @Frederic for his constant and invaluable technical advice, and @Emmanuelfor testing me severely with my first unforgettable Fewbie drive (since that drive my girlfriend has preferred to stay home 😅). I also wish to thank some of the guys (and girl) with whom I have been sharing a similar off-roading growing path: @Xaf, @Shamil, @Wrangeld, @Jeepie, @Javier M and @Brette driving with you has both helped and challenged me to learn from each of your individual set of skills, allowing me to adapt and improve my own style. I cannot mention the whole community here, but surely I am grateful to all those with whom I have been driving: every time we go out, at any level of off-roading, it's a very valuable learning experience. I have grown to appreciate this unique community of people (off-roaders is just a small part of what all of us are), which I believe is unique in the UAE for its warmth and sense of collectivity. The way for all of us is forward, and I am happy to be heading forward with all of you.

Here is a list of all the capable and best 4x4 cars in UAE that you can get under 10,000 and 20,000 Dhs in UAE. I have been asked this question on every off-road drive, so let's build a list with collective experience and knowledge: Best 4x4 cars in 10,000 Dhs 1999 - 2004 - Nissan Pathfinder 3.3 L / 3.5 L 1997 - 2006 - Mitsubishi Pajero 3.0 L / 3.5 L / 3.8 L (SWB is better than LWB) 1991 - 2001 - Jeep Cherokee 4.0 L (Finding clean one is extremely rare) 1999 - 2004 - Jeep Grand Cherokee 4.0 L / 4.7 L 1989 - 1998 - Land Rover Discovery Series I 3.9 L / 4.0L (1995 - 1998 year is better) 1998 - 2004 - Land Rover Discovery Series II 4.0 L (Average offroader) 1995 - 2002 - Land Rover Range Rover P38 4.0 L / 4.6 L Best 4x4 cars in 20,000 Dhs 1996 - 2006 - Jeep Wrangler TJ - 4.0 L 2006 - 2010 - Mitsubishi Pajero 3.5 L / 3.8 L (SWB is better than LWB) 2002 - 2009 - Chevrolet Trailblazer 4.2 L / 6.0 L 2005 - 2010 - Jeep Commander 4.7 L / 5.7 L 2005 - 2010 - Jeep Grand Cherokee 4.7 L / 5.7 L 2008 - 2009 - Nissan Xterra - 4.0 L 2006 - 2010 - Chevrolet Tahoe - 4.8 L / 5.3 L / 6.0 L 2006 - 2010 - Hummer H3 - 3.7 L 1996 - 2003 - Toyota Prado VX - 3.4 L (SWB is better than LWB) 1998 - 2004 - Land Rover Discovery Series II 4.6 L 2004 - 2009 - Land Rover Discovery 3 / LR3 4.0 L / 4.4 L 2002 - 2006 - Land Rover Range Rover L322 4.4 L 1997 - 2005 - Nissan Patrol Y61 4.5 L / 4.8 L (Finding clean one is extremely rare) 1998 - 2003 - Toyota Landcruiser 4.5 L (Might be just little over 20K range) 2006 - 2010 - Nissan Armada 5.6 L (Offroad version - Ranchos shocks, skid plate, tow hook, trimmed bumper) Please, guys, keep on suggesting more options based on your offroading experience, I will keep on updating this list DISCLAIMER: I don't intend to put the price of your ride or contest the "ballpark" value that I suggested. The used car market is subject to huge fluctuation due to demand and supply based on season and offroad 4x4 cars in UAE will always sell for a higher premium in winter (Oct-Mar). P.S. Having said that, if you have any constructive suggestion to edit the list - I will accept that. This awesome scrapper pulls the average price daily and update in single excel

I just saw this Cherokee. Surely it will need some investment, looks already beaten up. Bur price is crazy cheap. If anyone looking for a cheap beater Jeep can take a look.

This drive is organized in full compliance with the COVID19 guidelines. We expect every member that joins this drive to respect and follow these guidelines strictly in order to not jeopardize someone's health and to ensure we can keep organizing these drives. MUST READ: Not following these rules and precautions = Not allowed to drive. No Gathering | No Briefing | No BBQ | No Eating Together | No Touching | No Hugging We are only allowed to drive through the desert, as we are driving on the road now. So we will only do the desert driving just by sitting inside our cars at all the times and leave the drive without socializing or coming close to each other. Just like before we like to continue our desert drives through out the year, but this time we need your immense support to understand the strict control and to help everyone follow them all the time. How to maintain "STRICT" Social Distancing Meeting point will be set slightly (100m - 200m) inside the desert track. You individually deflate your tires on the tarmac before reaching the meeting point. While deflating tires, stop cars 10 meters away from any other car. Drive signup on calendar will be closed on Thursday morning by 9 AM. Convoy numbering and briefing will be posted here on this drive post before 6 PM on Thursday. All participants need to read & acknowledge the briefing by clicking "Totally Agree" reaction Switch on your radio when you reach the meeting point on the set frequency advised by the trip lead in the critical briefing here. Once everyone reaches to the meeting point, everyone stay inside the car at all the times. Trip lead will do the roll call, convoy numbering recap, critical briefing over the radio. Any suggestions or issues will be discussed over the radio too. You can also speak to other members through the radio only. So please make sure that your radio battery is fully charged. Once all set, trip lead will start the drive as before. Refusal and Recoveries with Social Distancing Every drive will have 1 lead Marshal and 1 or 2 supporting senior members/crew. Whenever there is a stuck or refusal, only a Marshal / Senior Member / Crew is allowed to handle the situation. Everyone else including the stuck car driver, stay inside the car - AT ALL TIMES. Marshal / Senior Member / Crew is only allowed to step out to access the situation and do the recoveries: They will wear mask and gloves at all times when they are outside their car. They will try to help self recover through the radio guidance. If not they will use required recovery gear and do the needful (shovel, tug or winch, as required). If at any time Marshal require help, then only you are allowed to step out by wearing face mask and gloves at all times. Drive completion and inflation There will not be any gathering or sitting down together for food-break like before. Once drive is finished, after reaching the tarmac, everyone is requested to move away 50-100 meters before starting their inflation. For drivers having no compressor, can head to the near by fuel station. If drive is ending at a place where there is no fuel station near by, then trip lead will inform in advance so that drivers having their own compressor can join only. Strictly no sharing of compressors, radio, shovel or any recovery gear, at any times. Mandatory things you require to attend the drive Face mask - at least TWO face mask is needed in case one get damage or fly away. Disposable rubber gloves - at least two sets are needed. Wear face mask and gloves at all the times, when you are out of your car. Carry plenty of hand sanitizer and object sanitizer (spray). Use your sanitizers generously, whenever you step out to help or recover. Sanitize your hands before getting back into your car. Sanitize your recovery gears, if you have used them. Fully charged and programmed radio - without any excuse - No radio = No drive. Shovel - Must for every car, to do little self recovery Safety flag - Must for every car, like before Compressor - If joining the drives that is ending far from the fuel station. Mandatory precaution that you need to take at all times Do not step out of your car UNLESS/OTHERWISE advised by Marshal / Senior Member / Crew. No shaking hands, hugs or touching each other. No sharing of food, drinks or recovery tools. If you are not feeling well, please stay at home and take a lot of rest. If you have travel in last 14 days, then please do not attend this drive. If you feel unwell during the drive, please let trip lead know so he can plan an early exit. Not more than 3 pax in a car and if all 3 aren't living together, then they should wear the mask inside the car too. Two Way Radio Guidelines Every Offroader brings his own radio, programmed to the frequencies described in below advice topic. We will not share spare radios or program your radio on the drive. If you need assistance in programming the radio, post a topic on the Carnity website with your questions and we will help you out. Make sure your radio is fully charged. It will be your only way of communication while driving. Before buying, please carefully read below advice so you are informed properly on which model / cost / shops... No radio = No drive. It is an essential tool and you should make sure you bring it on every drive and learn/practice how to use it. MUST WATCH: OUR NEWBIE VIDEO BRIEFING: Drive Details Level: All Levels When: 05 June 2020, Friday. Meeting time: 7:00 AM (SHARP - Without any exceptions) Action Plan: Morning drive till about 10:30 AM Meeting Point: Mahafiz - https://goo.gl/maps/n9Hfccra6uQaaGqh9 Type of Car: Any proper 4x4 with front and back tow hooks and 8-10 inches of ground clearance. What to bring along: Loads of water, snacks (for yourself), smiles, face mask, rubber gloves, enthusiasm and willingness to learn. Approximate finish time: 10:30 AM End Point: ADNOC Station - https://goo.gl/maps/hGg82AoRqUjn73WA8 LIMITED SPOTS AVAILABLE: Limited to 12 cars only. RSVP will close on Thursday - 9 AM. 1 Lead Marshal + 2 or 1 Senior Members + 9 or 10 Members. If the RSVP is full and you wish to join, please mention your name on the drive thread to add on the waiting list Latecomers will be returned back - without ANY EXCEPTIONS. Members without RSVP will be returned back - without ANY EXCEPTIONS. Please withdraw your RSVP, if you aren't joining, so your spot can be taken by others. Repeated no-show members after RSVP will have their account suspended for a month. PLEASE RSVP ON THE CALENDAR

Congratulations @Jolly Abraham for reaching the fewbie level with Carnity Offroad club. Based on your last newbie drive you have demonstrated skills required deserving this new offroad rank. Looking forward to seeing you growing further and helping others to learn the art of offroading in a safe environment. Once you have all the required off-road gear, you are most welcome to join the fewbie level drives with Carnity Off-road club. P.S. Trip lead might deny your participation if you don't have required off-road gear. Fewbie: Number of drives 10 (16 Newbie + Fewbie drives) Level of drives Willingness to learn + Enthusiasm + Basic dune reading Off-road gear Flag, deflator, tire gauge, shovel, fire extinguisher, medical kit, radio, compressor. Drive teamwork Observe recovery from a safe distance and offer help when needed Drive posting/joining Join newbie and fewbie level of drives only Forum participation Active participation on forum. Share drive experience + feedback on forum and pictures in gallery Forum participation and helping with community spirit is recommended for faster upgrades at all levels.

Congrats, well deserved @siddharth maheshwari Enjoy the new challenges. see you soon in sand 😇

Hi @Nikola Bozovic, There is one extra spot availabe due to a signout, so i have added you. Please confirm if: - You have read the COVID precautions and saw the Newbie Briefing video. - You have a two-way radio programmed to our frequencies. - You have an offroad flag. Which 4x4 are you driving ? Are the front and rear towpoints in perfect condition?

Congratulations @Ale Vallecchi for reaching the Advance level with Carnity Offroad club. Your passion for off-road and great team player attitude to support and manage any drive resulted in great progress to deserve this new offroad rank. Your helpful approach with open mind has always helped everyone around in a very positive manner on the drives and on the forum. Keep it up and its time for you to work on your exploration skills to demonstrate your skills and knowledge. Looking forward to seeing you growing further and helping others to learn the art of offroading in a safe environment. Advance: Number of drives 10 (36 regular drives) Level of drives Willingness to learn + Enthusiasm + Basic dune & sand reading + map reading & basic navigational skills Off-road gear Flag, deflator, tire gauge, shovel, fire extinguisher, medical kit, radio, compressor, tool kit, tow rope, floor jack, jack board & GPS Drive teamwork Actively participate in recoveries + drive in the second lead Drive posting/joining Join any drive and lead fewbie & intermediate drives under Marshal / Crew supervision Forum participation Share experience + feedback on forum and pictures in gallery + drive and route suggestions + post trip report + share route + track and waypoints Social media sharing & inviting friends & family to join offroad club is recommended for faster upgrades at all levels.

Hi, I bought a bottle jack, and asked welding shop at mussafah for the base plate and 2 additional saddles/supports to fit my rear axle (U shape) and front beam (flat shape). This support can act as extension height as well as for safety. The stopper at base plate is not enough height to avoid slidding/overturning the jack, then I asked them to revise it. Please comment.

Congratulations, welldone @Ale Vallecchi 👍

Congratulations @Ale Vallecchi You well deserve it. You're not just a good driver but very supportive and patient in dealing with situations.

Congratulations

Congratulations

congrats @Lorenzo Candelpergher

Congrats @Ale Vallecchi, well deserved. Been a pleasure driving with you and am really happy for you.

Congrats @Ale Vallecchi it has been an absolute pleasure driving with you guys. I addition to being a good driver, you bring so many ideas to the table. It's wonderful to see such contribution both during and after the drive. Cheers.

Congratulations @Ale Vallecchi

Congrats @Nacho

Happy birthday @Xaf and congratulations on your promotion. Very well deserved. I have a soft corner for Dutch people and you're part of another group we belong to, so all the more happy to have a fellow like you promoted to the Advanced level. Who better to understand getting the hours under the belt than a pilot. Very happy to see you grow and develop your skills so quickly.

Congratulations @Ale Vallecchi. You are a true gentleman and off-road enthusiast. I still remember when we first met at 2nd December Cafe and you needed a tire pressure gauge. I invited you to join us at that time, you surely took your time. However I am glad you joined and are enjoying yourself by expressing yourself openly. Really happy that you are part of our team and family to take this sport in a positive direction. Congratulations on making it to the advanced level, well deserved.

Thanks Fred. You made me discover some truly beautiful parts of these deserts. Look forward to our next drives.

Thanks Richard. As I said, driving with you guys has been a blessing. BTW enjoy your deserved days off Thanks Marjan. Your poise and control have been an inspiration for me. Have a great Eid break.

Way to go Xaf !! Looking forward to our weekday's escapades, and many more weekend drives.

congrats @Ale Vallecchi. Indeed a very well deserved title. Looking forward to more adventures with you buddy.

Congratulations 👍🏼

Congratulations @Nacho

Thanks everyone Thanks @Wrangeld Thanks @Rahimdad and when do we get to try your famous parathas everyone keeps talking about here

Same JJ from D4x4 and E4x4?

My advice, when buying any second hand car, make friends with a mechanic. Get them to come and look at the car with you. They will pick up on problems that you will miss. Even better if that mechanic has a computer to scan the car. Every fault found is a bargaining chip. As an ex mechanic, I say be nice to any mechanic friends you find. If they come to look at a car buy them a few beers and shawarma.

To find a good used car, you have to put in all the efforts you can... Are we talking like fully agency maintained vehicles? So Full vehicle history is something you should look for. I prefer individual sellers.. If the description is long with well-written information (not copy-paste from google), you know he knows his cars and takes care of it.. Dealerships can ripoff but then if you find a good deal, its worth it. I always thought the Duster is an extremely reliable car. Back in India, you see them like literally anywhere. Very strange the parts are rare like Saleem said.. Something to keep in mind indeed! Dealerships erase all the error codes so it won't pop up when it's scanned.. Some of the codes come back after driving for a while so it could happen after the purchase (common with anything non-Japanese) I have seen the check engine light in my Mercedes like 10 times meanwhile ZERO with the Nissan. =D I'm just a noob here who screwed up the very first used car purchase (clue is there in the sentence above lol), you will get better advice from the MVPs

your edge there @hAwX was u bought your qashqai brand new.. so as @Barry said opting to used car is like gambling. so any place where a good used car is available? Thank you.