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Good Morning @Rinelle Sanaani @Lucky sAm @Febin Frederic @Chaitanya D @Jolly Abraham @asifk @Najeeb Mohammed The Magnificent Seven! Hopefully all your plans for Friday are confirmed and you are preparing mentally for another day out in the dunes. A few housekeeping items to cover, just to make sure we have no problems when setting off. Tools and Equipment: We will be checking that you have all your Fewbie equipment before we leave. If you don't have it, you'll have driven to the 2nd December cafe for nothing. That means, a flag pole with a flag, a shovel, a compressor among other things. That also means tow points in good order - not just to stay in place on the car but also not cut the tow rope that someone might kindly offer to use to pull out your vehicle from the sand or off a crest. Get yourself right mentally: Fewbie PLUS, means faster pace, less announcements about the route, and an expectation from the other people in the drive that you can both drive yourself out of or away from problems. Refusals and stucks are part of the challenge, but you also need to be at the top of your game and be focused and ready for more challenging routes than before. Night driving: A small part of the drive should be taking place in the dark this week - assuming that we feel that the convoy knows how to handle that additional factor and we will not end up digging people out until midnight. Night driving conditions are different to the daylight in a number of ways. Most obvious, it's dark. This means you need to pay much more attention to where you are going and that the convoy is still together. Never lose sight of the person in front or behind. You do not need to have extra lights, but it helps. How long we drive at hight will be determined by how many stucks we experience. The less stucks, the more time practicing this new skill. To assit the Magnificent Seven, your Four Musketeers @Srikumar @Ale Vallecchi @Jeepie and myself will be there to help and guide whee needed. As ever a big thanks to them for briniging their experience and skills to the drive. If you have any questions or queries about what to expect, please add them here in this thread. Have a great day. See you soon in the sand.

Very nice @J J. Well summarized. Safety first. Never try to show that you know more and can do better than the other. Sometimes a stuck is better than a toss like that. Some brainless people try to show that they and their machines are better. Always be patient, we are not in a race. Well done @topgear and @J J. You win this round. Just to add couple of extra things from my side. A bit too fast and soft suspension once the car hit the front wheels to dig in and the momentum just carried the free back over. Never let the back of your car over take the front. Learn to control your car, your emotions and more importantly your ego.

Hi Syed. My number is 0525713073. I can flash and program Jeep ECMs and diagnose and fix any other problems you might have. I agree with what other people are saying though. It seems like your mechanic broke the car so he should be repairing it for free. The car was working when it went into the garage so it should be working when it comes out. If he can’t repair it back to its original state, get DED involved. They are very good with this sort of thing and come down hard on monkey mechanics.

As part of continuous improvement and diversification, Carnity off-road club plans to add few mountain and wadi drives regularly to the off-road drives calendar. Depending on the interest, we might continue or alternate those drives with the help of senior off-roaders and marshals. As UAE mountain and wadi are very dynamic and seasonal, so we like to hear from the mountain explorers here who have recently visited such scenic places? Place should be safe enough to schedule a drive of 10-15 cars. You must have recently visited that place in the last 6 months time. Suggestions open to both levels - newbie (preferable) - fewbie (acceptable). It shouldn't be of an extreme rock crawling level (as of now). Feel free to suggest any place, that you must have heard from your friends/family recently so that we can plan a recce trip and scout the area before posting the drive. We really appreciate if you have tracks, route, coordinates to get in and out, would be really helpful in getting these started.

Wrong angle / higher speed and being cocky .. after seeing another vehicle stuck there

@Wrangeld Iam in off ice evening going to mechanic pickup my jeep ,already in touch with @Barry

Totally Agree, Sharjah and Dubai consumer rights and DED are awesome and saved me 3 times with monkey mechanic and fake parts sellers.

Looks like the SKIM module (immobilizer) that is not being recognized by the new PCM. I think only Jeep dealer will be able to re-program the PCM.

Take it to @Barry. If you keep using the mechanics you used, you will change more and more parts and get no result.

Hello Gaurav Yesterday I decided to join Carnity after the wonderful trip last week as a passenger with my friend Chaitanya . Actually I am new to this world and I would like to explore it safely as a driver. I have a white Jeep Grand Cherokee 2015 model. Its stock with no modification .ground clearance match 8 to 10 inch. I have read and watched the instructions And can’t wait till event time on Friday 17th 5 to 9 am I will come prepared as per requirement and advice by Carnity team M.Seidam

Why not just get all 3?

And thats how BRONCO is also made ....🤣

Yes it's more of a personal preference .. can get you these routes Wadi Zikt / Wadi Sidir/ Wadi Shawka / Jabal Al Akdhar/ Baraq Dam They are pretty fun and enjoyable by many

I hear you completely @J J but not all drives are the same. I agree if wadi's are dry and flat, it gets monotonous and boring too quickly, but if it has ongoing challenges, inclined gradients, it adds to the thrill. I absolutely love mountains, just because of the heights, scenic beauty, view from different vantage point are totally amazing to drive or to chill out on top (after COVID finishes).

Hi @Wrangeld I have added my name again - still doubtful subject to some work commitments, but I will withdraw before 6 on Thursday if it does not work out. Magnificent 7 was far better movie than Hateful 8!

Me too and I already knew what to reply to Barry - no brainer.

@syed salman raza ... just read pages of this BS. Your mechanic is playing you. Get to DED immedaitely. It's a 2005 TJ! None is going to steal it (I should know, mine is a 2004 TJ) and the immobilizer can be bypassed easily. Get your money back. Go to Barry. Get it sorted. We need to see you out in the sand.

Finally the 2021 Ford Bronco is here. Looks to be the ultimate off road machine. Hope Ford will launch it here in UAE without delay.

Again you are EXACTLY doing what your mechanic wants and you will get no results. He wants you to pay for stupid parts for his mistake - You are doing it He wants you to take your Jeep when he has made a mess - You are doing it. Call him and say, return my jeep in same working condition as I gave you or in 24 hours I will go to Dubai Consumer Rights and DED to make a legal complain.

Can imagine your position , have a "been there done that feeling" as I write this reply 😖. Just speak firmly with your mechanic , ask him to refund your money spent without any solution . If not let him get it fixed for you, keep all the conversation and log /job cards safe for back up to take him to task if needed. Do not oblige now with any verbal assurances! Sometimes good faith doesn't work with quackchanics!

@syed salman raza I'm really sad to see what you are going through with. But you are simply toooooo good for this world and that's why your Jeep is in black hole since 10 days. Going to @Barry is a bad idea atm. Let this mechanic sort out or you will pay dearly. Call Dubai Consumer Rights and explain your side and ask them to resolve this for you. Ask your mechanic to return the car in same shape as you have given him. You shouldn't have wasted 700 for PCM repair and then scrap cost as that is the EXACT Rabit hole your mechanic is pushing you into. Stop FIRMLY and get legal help.

Yup 100% true never buy the first 2 to 3 years of a new generation. In reality 5 years is a safer bet. Given enough chance to sort out all the quirks and nags. Unless it's a BMW or Nissan they don't give a shit and keep manufacturing faulty cars! lol

I quit!

I can feel the heat, Sid, lol

Looking forward to the drive

Actually, 2009 was my favourite season when Button won the championship with Brawn that was utterly dominant with its double diffuser but ran out of money to develop the car and Button still score reasonable points to seal the championship with 1 race to spare. The 2nd favourite season for me was the 2007 due to the spygate, Alonso-Hamilton public spat and how Kimi came from behind to win the championship in the last race.

Nice observation @topgear. Would like more insight from more people. @Anish S, @Veedooshee, @Lorenzo Candelpergher, @Michael sammy, @Rizwanm2, @Mels Wolf, @luwaimn, @Tbone, @J J, @Rinelle Sanaani, @Chaitanya D, @Incognitoes, @Desert Dweller, @Vanessa8580, @Magellan, @Yousef Alimadadi, @Denizzalbayrak, @George Francis, @Colin Jordan, @marks, @Mehmet Volga, @Foxtrot Oscar, @Jun Zamora, @Vipin Shetty, @Gregory Perkin.

When I saw the topic, I thought this as a genuine question😄

OMG 😱

The 2.3 ecoboost is a well proven power plant at this stage. The earlier ones at the start had their problems but the latest generation seem to have all the problems ironed out. I had a drive in a new 4 cylinder mustang last week. To be honest, I went into it with a bad attitude and fully expected it to be thoroughly shite but I was impressed. Forget the fact it’s a V8 muscle car because it isn’t and see it for what it is, a good looking coupe with reasonable economy and it all starts to make sense. While it’s not a fire breathing 500 horsepower monster, it has more than enough power for every day use and enough to put a smile on your face. It might be a 4 cylinder but a Nissan sunny it isn’t.

Carrying too much speed and the approach angle

Of course because not everyone has a shiny resume like yours to race alongside Alonso and Vettel.

Super 💯

Oh wow @Gaurav... thank you..☺️

@Gaurav missing your punch line " ask the mechanic to give in writing ". Just on a lighter note 🤣 Frankly if the mechanic are just changing parts and waiting to see what happens , tell them to please stop. Tow your vehicle to another sensible mechanic and get your job done... will save you dirhams and time both.

When replacing the PCM, the key and immobilizer will need to be reprogrammed, because it is not recognizing the new PCM.

Tell him not my problem. I gave you a running car. That's the way I want it back

This drive is organized in full compliance with the COVID19 guidelines. We expect every member that joins this drive to go through below information and and strictly follow these guidelines in order not to jeopardize someone's health, and to ensure we can keep organizing these drives safely. MUST READ AND TOTALLY AGREE: COVID19 Precautions MUST READ AND TOTALLY AGREE: BAN POST Two Way Radio Guidelines Every Offroader brings his own radio, programmed to the frequencies described in below advice topic. We will not share spare radios or program your radio on the drive. If you need assistance in programming the radio, post a topic on the Carnity website with your questions and we will help you out. Make sure your radio is fully charged. It will be your only way of communication while driving. Before buying, please carefully read below advice so you are informed properly on which model / cost / shops... No radio = No drive. It is an essential tool and you should make sure you bring it on every drive and learn/practice how to use it. MUST WATCH: NEWBIE VIDEO BRIEFING Drive Details Level: Fewbie and above - (No Newbie and No Absolute Newbie Allowed) When: July 17 2020, Friday. Meeting time: 5:00 PM (SHARP - Without any exceptions) Meeting Point: Mahafiz Tree Shade - https://goo.gl/maps/Yku5BTg4T2pJUbhF9 Type of Car: Any proper 4x4 with front and back tow hooks and 8-10 inches of ground clearance. What to bring along: Loads of water, snacks (for yourself), face mask, rubber gloves, enthusiasm and willingness to learn. Approximate finish time: 09:00 PM End Point: ADNOC Station Tayba - https://goo.gl/maps/hejHgLsYf2cxheoU9 LIMITED SPOTS AVAILABLE: Limited to 12 cars only. RSVP will close on Thursday - 9 AM. 1 Lead Marshal + 1 or 2 Senior Members + 10 Members. If the RSVP is full and you wish to join, please mention your name on the drive thread to add on the waiting list. Latecomers will be returned back - without ANY EXCEPTIONS. Members without RSVP will be returned back - without ANY EXCEPTIONS. Please withdraw your RSVP, if you aren't joining, so your spot can be taken by others. Repeated no-show members after RSVP will have their account suspended for a month. PLEASE RSVP ON THE CALENDAR

Hi Gaurav Xterra - off Road, 2015 model prior off roading- yes, but never desert driving Vehicle has 8-10 inch clearance, with front tow hook and rear tow hitch.

Got another one ...different terrain though VID-20200715-WA0094.mp4

I will be interested for Wadi drives because I will involve my family. Maybe I am not such an adrenalin junkie and will enjoy a less challenging drive with nice scenery.

Hi @J J any reason why you dont like wadi drives?

Happy banana boat @Barry.

I lost my interest around 2008-2009 it became too electronic not very driver oriented as it used to be.

Hi All, already excited to have my first organised off road driving experience I have drove off road quite few in dubai and home country by 2 vehicles the one I have now ford explorer limited automatic and Toyota helux manual before Looking forward to Friday. Thx, Omar

Last I watched an F1 race was back in the 1980s. Nigel Mansel used to drive the Malboro Honda McLaren. Met him at the Honda showroom as well. But no longer interested in watching or being any part of this F1 circus.

Yes, I am glad that McLaren is doing well this year. Racing Point as well based on their race pace. Hopefully Racing Point will not be penalized by the FIA for being a pink Mercedes. The biggest question mark would be how will Vettel soldier on for the rest of the year and where will he go next.

of course yes, I totally agree with Fredy. So who paid for new PCM and how did he manage to shot the PCM of YJ (literally bomb proof 4x4)?

Never been a Ford fan, but seems they did their homework on the Bronco. https://www.google.ae/amp/s/www.caranddriver.com/news/amp33277335/2021-ford-bronco-specs-revealed/ I do however have concerns over the turbo, and the toll heavy dune bashing in 45 degrees takes..