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Dear Desertnauts, @PETELCZYC PAJERO - luke - Major Vladimir 'Popski' Peniakoff - Demolition Team, @Faraz94 - Captain Michael Crichton-Stuart, Combat Unit G, @Ben Lee - Captain Edward 'Teddy' Cecil Mitford, Combat Unit W, @Ahmed Wagdy - Captain P. J. D. McCraith, Combat Unit Y, @Richard Franks - Captain Patrick Clayton, Combat Unit T, @Bjoern - Captain Donald Gavin Steele, Support Unit R, @Alphin Aloor - Captain Travers John Durrant Birdwood, Combat Unit P: In welcoming our new LRDG member, @Johannes Roux - Major Kenneth Henry Lazarus of the Rhodesian Squad, I would like to ask all of you to go along this cosplay idea and come to the drive wearing whatever military clothing you may have in your wardrobe. The idea is to take a nice group photo at the end of the drive, like this...

This is truly amazing drive theme and re-enact of decades back history with modern 4X4. Amazing idea @Ale Vallecchi, keep inspiring all of us with your brilliant creativity.

BYO Tea Cup + cigars 😅

Dear Friends, hope you are having good week. Below is the current RSVP situation, and would really appreciate your final decision of joining or not. We are almost 24 hours from closing the RSVP. Attendees Zulfikhar Naiyar @Zulfikhar Naiyar Srilakshman Karthikeyan @Srilakshman Karthikeyan Ben Williams @Ben Williams Naim Aoun @Naim Aoun Glad to see you back Naim, look forward to meet you again Mohamad Anwer @Mohamad Anwer Abhilash Kottakkal @Abhilash Kottakkal Abdelghani @Abdelghani Issam Atra @Issam Atra Cha @Cha Ahmad Nerat @Ahmad Nerat Waitlisted Attendees Faraz94 @Faraz94

For academic interest and mutual learning on the imp feature of Kill Switch or Airbags Turn off button : I seek inputs from all the fellow off-roaders : ( please respond to the thread only when the answer is YES to - Do you have Kill switch / Airbags turn off button in your car? If not, and you have specific comment to educate the community members, please feel free to comment or add useful links ) Guys your contribution will help and the end result I am aiming is to have compiled list of cars which do have default Kill Switch/Airbags turn off button etc. and where to locate, plus in addition any other specifics you take care of before off-roading ( Fr eg : Jeep guys press Traction off button for 7 seconds, that helps to disable ESC ) Can you please hence in below format add with your contributions : ( If you see already your car model is replied by someone, please put a like / totally agree, so we avoid having multiple responses for same models.) Car mode : Jeep Wrangler 2021 - Rubicon kill Switch Button ( if yes, where to locate) - NO Airbags turn off button (if yes where to locate) : NO Other comments : Before every drive, Press the traction control off button for 7 seconds, which helps to turn off ESC (Electronic Stability Control ). When you engage 4L, the ESC is enabled again, so repeat the step when you shift to 4H, to turn off both Traction & ESC. Looking forward to your contributions ! As someone rightly said "Let's root for each other & watch each other grow."

It must be like a Chinese whisper game, when we say disable side airbags, after sometime "side" disappeared and ppl start assuming disable all airbags, lol.

Good topic @DP1011 to compile this crucial information at one place. Just to clarify as Fredy already mentioned, we only emphasis and insist on disabling Side Airbags on US and EU origin brands, Japanese manufacturer mastered the side airbag very well and they don't deploy on crisscrossing. Front airbag is safety requirement, and one should NOT disable it, as it can save your life in case of nasty accident or frontal roll-over. Even on higher level drives, one should not disable front airbag, please.

There are usually two types of airbags installed in your car: 1. Front airbags (in your steering wheel). 2. Side airbags / curtain airbags / lateral airbags. Airbags are usually being triggered by two possible events, either a heavy impact on the front bumper, or when the car is tilting too much on one side, followed by a quick tilt towards the other side. This is something we do whenever we are ridge riding and crossing over from one side to the other (also called switching). Some vehicle brands have very sensitive sensors to detect this kind of tilting, and hence trigger the airbag to go off during your dune-bashing drive. Cars like Ford, Land Rover, GMC, Dodge, Chevy seem to be very prone to this, hence we always advise to disable the airbags. Ideally, you'd want to keep your frontal airbag activated, as it's there to protect you in case of a nasty nose-dive. Unfortunately, in many 4x4's this fuse is combined with the side airbags, so when deactivating side airbags, your front will also be disabled. It's up to you to decide if you want to keep your frontal airbag enabled or disabled. It's there to protect you in case of a nosedive or heavy impact from the front side, but when it goes off it will be an expensive repair, or you'll need to cut them out.

Hi @Alphin Aloor - I have done the compressor + tank set up in two flavors which I can explain later. But in short: 1. Compressor installed under passenger seat or, if a SWB Y61 then at a space in the left side at the back (this space is not available if it is a LWB Y61) 2. Tank installed under the car if a SWB Y61 or under the driver’s seat if a LWB Y61 (space is not available under the car in LWB because of the fuel sub-tank) 3. Air outlet located outside of the car - in wheel bays or rear bumper What this set up allows you is, as Zed mentioned, running air-tools, and you can also switch-on the compressor while you are driving towards the exit. The compressor will shut off automatically once the air in the tank reaches 150 psi approximately (all ARB compressors have a small manifold and an cut-off switch rated at 150 psi, the cut-off switch can be replaced if damaged or by another at a different pressure rating), and the air outlet outside of the car will allow you to keep doors closed and bugs away . When all tires are inflated back to your desired pressure, you turn off the compressor and can use the air in tank to blow off sand. The setup I have in my car, a Y61 SWB, more or less allows me to inflate four ~33” tires, from 10psi to 35psi, in almost 5 minutes and also allows me to run air tools, it consists of two ARB dual compressors and a 20l air tank. Hope this information helps.

@DP1011 jeep is a no no for me...I think they are just exploting the trail rating...mh experience with just few drives with jeep is the best..but with no comfort for the family and also the driver...I took a big risk by going with montero sport...let see how long it can take me...let's push it...😅😅😅may be we can tell one day to the newbies I survived....

True..as a mechanical engineer I understand...but overall if we look it's just a slight loss of power ..my wife told me today it seems the engine is Rev up a little more than the previous...we have to trust them for sure...and next time in the desert I will Rev it up more to compensate and hope it will do...my intention to stay alfloat like the jeep guys and take forward the desert driving....

Confirmed

Its not about 25 kg weight, its about axle, tranny, driveshaft has to rotate 5 kg heavier tire (rotational weight) that deliver lesser WHP (wheel horse power) result in slightly lesser climbing capabilities.

Congrats @Looper on graduating to another level, so fast. Soon you will realize that this style will grow fast on you.

@Hisham MasaadI will withdraw the RSVP. Will join @Ale Vallecchi 😀

Car mode: Jeep Wrangler 2019 - 2 Door Sport kill Switch Button (if yes, where to locate) - Soft Kill Switch with Tazer JL Airbags turn off button (if yes where to locate): NO Other comments: This device get plugged into the SGW connectors. It can be used to make some changes to the car such as Tire Size change, changes to system if you have changed headlights or changed the head unit etc. This can also be left in the car connected that lends a lot of "Live Functions". One of them particularly useful is the "TC Kill" – turn off traction control, stability control and ABS.

Hi @DP1011 - my understanding is that a Kill Switch is not stock for most cars, and therefore must be installed. What you need to make sure is that you select a place (garage, shop, etc) with someone with good knowledge, or be present as they do it and ask the right questions. It is easy to mess this up or have a low quality installation that might pose a hazard, this is valid for all cars.

@Alphin Aloor no it's not faster. The tank is to run "Air-Tools". This is why ARB gave an air-gun to blow compressed air and clean your engine bay or car interior or inflate air-mattresses when camping. The best is if you need to change tires, you can use Air Impact Wrench to open your tire lugs instead of manual-wrenching 5-6 bolts 😊. The theory why an Air Tool (airgun, air-wrench, air-hammer) needs a tank >> "A tank dampens pulsation, providing a steady flow of compressed air at constant pressure. Uniform airflow makes it easier to work and reduces wear on your machine" See video below https://youtu.be/xTtnPCtddyY?feature=shared

I want this to get expanded into a live roll playing adventure when we pit two long range patrol units against each other in getting to different waypoints first without detecting each other 😎

I am not going to make this one my usual "Looper Drive" where my objective is to maintain high speeds and reach the end point in a hurry and try to beat the time records, I maintain in my spreadsheet. This drive is going to be a deliberate choice not to give an adrenaline rush, there is no rush hour chaos. Instead, it will attempt to be a dopamine rush, a drive that aims to awaken a sense of joy and contentment, not by racing against time, but by savoring every moment along the way. I will compare the objectives of the drive akin to Tai Chi. Tai Chi, known for its graceful and effortless movements, teaches us the value of balance and harmony. Similarly, this drive is a chance to harmonize with the desert, to flow with the curves and bends like a serene dance. Your accelerator becomes your brush, and the dune is your canvas—painting strokes of mindfulness and peace. Join for a Dopamine Drive; a mindful expedition that promises not just to take you places, but to bring you closer to yourself.

Choosing the Right Air Compressor for Desert Off-Roading in the UAE Off-roading in the UAE desert requires lowering your tire pressure to improve traction on soft sand. While some exits conveniently lead to nearby petrol stations where you can reinflate your tires, this is not always the case. For that reason, carrying a reliable air compressor is an essential part of any off-road recovery kit. It is one piece of equipment you do not want failing when it is time to head back onto the tarmac. Depending on your tire size and the type of compressor being used, reinflating tires can take anywhere from 2–4 minutes per tire to more than 25 minutes for a full set. Under the UAE’s intense desert heat, minimizing inflation time becomes more than just a convenience — it is an important factor for both comfort and equipment longevity. In this article, we will look at some of the key technical considerations when using an air compressor and explain what to look for when purchasing one. Heat Management: The Biggest Challenge The primary challenge with air compressors is heat generation. Compressing air creates friction between air molecules, and this process naturally produces significant amounts of heat. The temperature increase is most noticeable around the piston head, but the air hose itself can also become extremely hot during operation. This is why most quality compressors are equipped with cooling fins and a short metal outlet pipe designed to dissipate heat before it reaches the rubber hose. Even so, compressors should always be handled carefully after use, as certain components may become hot enough to cause burns. It is completely normal for a compressor to heat up during operation, especially when running continuously or operating in high ambient temperatures such as those experienced in the UAE desert. To reduce overheating and extend the lifespan of your compressor, it is recommended to: Keep the compressor in the shade whenever possible Avoid running it continuously for extended periods Respect the manufacturer’s specified duty cycle Allow the unit to cool down between inflation sessions when necessary Understanding Compressor Performance One important factor often overlooked is that inflating a single tire at a time can limit most compressors to an effective airflow of approximately 70 liters per minute (LPM). Even if a compressor is rated for higher output, airflow resistance from a single tire valve can restrict performance, forcing the compressor to work harder and generate additional heat. For high-performance compressors with greater airflow capacity, using a dual-hose or four-hose inflation system can significantly improve efficiency. Inflating multiple tires simultaneously reduces overall runtime, lowers operating temperatures, and makes much better use of the compressor’s available airflow. This setup is especially beneficial for vehicles equipped with larger off-road tires, where inflation times can otherwise become lengthy and demanding on the compressor. What to Look for When Buying an Air Compressor Choosing the right air compressor for desert off-roading is about more than simply buying the most powerful model available. Reliability, durability, and real-world performance are far more important when you are regularly inflating tires in harsh desert conditions. Below are some of the key factors to consider before making a purchase. 1. Warranty and Brand Reputation A quality compressor is an investment, and a reputable manufacturer should stand behind its product with a solid warranty. Premium brands typically offer warranties ranging from 4 to 5 years, which helps justify the higher purchase price and provides peace of mind for frequent off-roaders. Unfortunately, long warranty periods have become less common in recent years, making brand reputation and after-sales support more important than ever. 2. Airflow Output (LPM / CFM) Compressor performance is usually measured in either: LPM (Liters Per Minute) CFM (Cubic Feet Per Minute) As a reference: 2.3 CFM ≈ 65 LPM In general, higher airflow means faster tire inflation. For most off-road applications, compressors delivering 50 LPM or more will perform adequately, while larger tires and multi-tire inflation systems benefit from significantly higher output. However, comparing compressor specifications is not always straightforward. Manufacturers do not always use the same testing standards: Some advertise airflow at 0 PSI (free air delivery) Others provide ratings at 40 PSI, which places a much greater load on the compressor This means that published numbers can sometimes be misleading, and real-world performance may differ significantly from what is printed on the box. 3. Duty Cycle Air compressors generate substantial heat during operation, which means most units cannot run continuously without periodic cooling. The allowable runtime before cooling is required is known as the duty cycle. Manufacturers may express this in different ways: Time-based rating: Example: “20 minutes per hour” Percentage-based rating: Example: “33% duty cycle” In both cases, the meaning is essentially the same: the compressor can operate for approximately 20 minutes within a one-hour period before it should be allowed to cool down. This becomes particularly important for drivers who go off-roading frequently or who need to inflate larger tires. Exceeding the duty cycle repeatedly can quickly lead to overheating, reduced lifespan, or permanent compressor damage. 4. Hose and Accessory Quality The quality of the included accessories is often overlooked but has a major impact on usability and durability. Pay close attention to the quality of: The coiled air hose The pressure gauge The clip-on air chuck Poor-quality fittings and hoses are common failure points and can become frustrating during repeated desert use, especially under high temperatures. 5. Automatic Pressure Shut-Off A useful premium feature is an automatic pressure shut-off system. This function allows the compressor to stop automatically when the inflation trigger is not engaged, reducing unnecessary strain on the motor and limiting heat buildup. It also makes operation more convenient and efficient during multi-tire inflation. 6. Electrical Protection Features Quality compressors should include built-in protection systems such as: Inline fuse protection Thermal overload protection These safety features help protect both the compressor and your vehicle’s electrical system in the event of overheating, excessive current draw, or electrical faults. While these protections are generally standard on premium models, cheaper compressors may omit them entirely. Below a typical specs example of a Bushranger Black Max: Duty cycle is 30 minutes @40psi at 24°C ambient temperature. Obviously the ambient temperature will be much higher for us here in the UAE, so you will need to take that into account. Keep the compressor in the shade while using (or even on the inside of the car if possible) and keep your engine running. These compressors are rated to work most efficiently at 13.8 Volts, so your alternator should be running. Below i will be going through most of the brands we have encountered in the club, and how we can rate them: Premium Brands (****) Brands like ARB, Bushranger, TJM, Dobinsons, and Mean Mother, are the most famous premium brands that will be providing a quality unit that should last years. ARB and Bushranger/Viair have the advantage that you will find spare parts for them, so if you are interested and savvy, you can rebuild your compressor later on. Price range of these compressor is from 750 AED upwards up to 2500+AED. The main reason why they cost more is due to the quality of materials used, higher duty cycle of their compressor, and of course marketing as well. ARB ARB has the single cylinder unit for about 1000AED, while its big brother will be around 2,700AED. They have by far the best quality of hoses and gauges, and these units should last many years if being well taken care of. MeanMother The Mean Mother Adventurer is the only brand/model we know of in the UAE that offers 5year warranty, hence this model has become very popular in our off-roading community. You will find the Adventurer III model for around 750AED (150lpm), but now there is also the Adventurer IV which is having slightly better performance (180lpm) and costs about 999AED. We have heard about a few models failing but were replaced within warranty. Bushranger / Viair Bushranger/Viair has a range of different models with output ratings from 52lpm up to 72lpm. (Black Max for 800AED and Max Air III for 1120AED). The Max Air III has an automatic pressure shut-off. Their compressors are extremely reliable, but i have never been impressed with their yellow plastic coiled hoses and clip-on, except for the black hoses they use on the old SuperMax and the newer Max Air III model. Their smallest model (RV Air for 599AED) is the minimum in terms of output flow (52lpm) and will take quite some time to inflate your tires, but should work fine. Dobinsons Dobinsons have the Zenith model (170 lpm) that is being sold for 999AED. Quality looks top notch with good set of accessories and backed by a premium quality brand. Midrange Brands (***) Golden Camel The "Golden Camel" brand with its red compressors, sold in single cylinder and double cylinder models are fantastic performers for the price (200 AED for the single big cylinder 160lpm, and 280AED for the double cylinder compressor (300 lpm). Yes the hoses break, the electrics fail sometimes, and it won't be the most reliable compressor, but for that price it's worth a try if you want it. You will find the hoses also separarely in DM, and if you are a bit handy with a soldering gun you might make an attempt to replace the switches or solder a wire back on. They now even have a mighty big 4-cylinder unit, which pumps out an impressive 300lpm. The problem nowadays is that you have even "fake" Golden Camel compressors, who look 100% identical, but their quality is even more of a question mark. I recently bought one and it started overheating and shutting off after only two tyres. The vibration coming from the compressor makes me wonder about the tolerances used in the manufacturing process. On the other hand i also have a single cylinder Golden Camel that has been going strong for 3 years now and never failed. Vitaly Vitaly is a brand that basically re-labels these Chinese compressors and sells them at a higher price in hardware stores like ACE and Speedex. Again they are a bit of a gamble and the only advantage you will have is you will get at least 1year warranty through these stores. T-Max These compressors are looking very similar to the DM Single big cylinder compressors and the Mean Mother Adventurer. There is a smaller 72lpm unit and a big 150lpm unit. Prices are similar to Vitaly, and T-Max seems to be a reputable Australian brand, so perhaps the build quality will be a slight notch above the DM compressors. Volcano I recently stumbled upon this brand via a shop in Ajman. They are manufactured in Taiwan and manufacture compressors for high end brands as well. Their biggest compressor model is the B850 which is being sold for about 650AED. Have seen them on sale in DM as well. They come in a sturdy box, with decent hose (like the Bushranger top model) and have a pressure gauge with automatic cut-off. Flow rate is 98lpm. Brands/ Models to avoid: -The smaller "Golden Camel" Compressor. Absolutely worthless. Also sold under the "X-Cessories" brand name. -Mini compressors to connect to the cigarette lighter: Will last only a few drives. Not made to inflate weekly from 15 to 35psi, unless you want to wait for 25mins or longer. Will overheat easily because of this. These are made for sedans and bicycles. The Black and Decker and Michelin models seem to work better, but it will take you upwards of 25 minutes to inflate your tires. If you happen to have one of those, i strongly recommend to only inflate to about 25psi you can then drive to the nearest petrol station and use their compressor. If you are in the market of buying a new compressor, i hope this article can shed some light and useful information that will guide you in the right direction. As you can clearly see, inflating tyres on a 4x4 in the summer heat requires a big powerful compressor that can quickly inflate your tyres before overheating or shutting down.

Let's hope I won't be the disappointing one ...😄 but short experience with carnity...you can guys are more supportive than we could as newbies can imagine and big salute to that....

As an accountant I don't understand much about the mechanics. But I will make good presentation with charts with the the stats at the end of the drive.

@Abhilash Kottakkal You should have told me before Getting tyres replaced, I would have given you a better suggestion. I would have told you, Get 5BFG tyres but along with Jeep fitted to them 😂😂!

This is a very important info about the airbag. I was infact planning on going and getting another switch to disable the front airbag. Good I did not do that. Safety comes first! I think Sequoia has a switch to disable the side impact airbag as per some blogs. I will check this out and post it here, so that it might help out some others too.

This is interesting and good to know @Gaurav as I remember I started disconnecting air bags based on a recommendation I got in an IM drive long time ago.

@AnasArif from above contributions of @Frederic and @Gaurav , I suppose you now have the answer ( re-confirmation of what we discussed on your first drive:) - no need of disabling Airbags) as you are a proud japenese car owner;)

Very excited to drive in Mahafiz inshallah

I have recently install kill switch for my car, (Sequoia) , as per the garage guy its enough to disable traction and abs. He did not disable the Airbags, he said its separate circuit, he needs more time etc. My version Sequoia (GCC) does not come with a traction control switch. After the kill switch its a major difference in driving in the soft patches. My question here is that, how important is to have airbags disabled?

Car model: Nissan Xterra Offroad kill Switch Button ( if yes, where to locate) - Doesn't come as stock. Aftermarket switch added below the dash Airbags turn off button (if yes where to locate) : No, No side airbags. Other comments : Some of the newer models (post 2012) came with a traction off button. Long press disables traction. However, i heard that it doesn't turn off traction 100% so we still need a kill switch. One kill switch deactivates both ABS and traction.

@DP1011@Mario Cornejo Correct, i installed a kill switch initially under the bonnet itself, but later removed it again and put everything stock. So i just use the regular "Traction Off" button on the center console, and the VDC disable hack next to brake pedal.

Hey Frederic. I have already been promoted to Fewbie and on my profile it also reflects as Fewbie. If you desire me to go through the process of requesting a promotion again, I will gladly do so... Please advise. Sorry. Just noticed it is a Fewbie Plus drive. Please disregard. I will attempt in joining another drive. Take care!

Car model: Nissan Patrol Y61 Safari 2021 Kill Switch Button: No Traction Off Button: Yes, on the center console VDC (Vehicle Dynamic Control) Off Button: Can be disabled by pushing the switch nearby the brake pedal. Airbags turn off button (if yes where to locate) : No, i remove the fuse on higer level drives. Other comments : Traction Off and VDC off will need to be repeated when restarting the vehicle or going from 4L back to 4H

Hello @DP1011 Car model: Nissan Patrol Y61 kill Switch Button ( if yes, where to locate) - Yes, panel next to gear shift Airbags turn off button (if yes where to locate) : No, I remove the air-bag fuse. Other comments : I also disconnect the traction control, which Nissan calls VDC, which you need to repeat if (a) car engine is switched off, or you have shifted from 4L to 4H. The air-bag fuse is disconnected as the system might be triggered by a sudden fall or bumping into “sand-step” with force.

I had decent stock tyres, that i drove with ( Mud terrain tyres) but when i changed it to BFG KO2, Its totally a different experience both Off road and On road! Do I say more? even the lead @Looper is with same BFG! I will let you react with "totally agree" reaction on Sunday 9.35am! 😎😁

This is going to be fun

..... THE LONG RANGE PARTOLS The Indian Long Range Squadron or ILRS was a unit of the British Indian Army during World War II. It was formed by asking for volunteers from the 2nd Lancers, 11th Cavalry and the 18th Cavalry all part of the 3rd Indian Motor Brigade.[1] It was originally formed to patrol the borders between the Soviet Union and Persia and Afghanistan. The ILRS was trained by and performed some missions with, The Long Range Desert Group (LRDG). With this little introduction, let's welcome the newest member of the Group who will join us for the drive: @Alphin Aloor - Captain Travers John Durrant Birdwood, Combat Unit P See you on Saturday.

I have the golden camel(dragon mart) onboard in my X. Faster, cheaper and apparently not reliable (not my exp).Does the job for me! Ensure you have a circuit breaker so as to not fry the other electronics in the car. ARB - expensive but reliable, a bit slower compared to double camel. Comes with warranty. Air tank helps with air tools, especially when changing a flat tyre. Bluetooth module seems to be an overkill. But this comes from the guy who deflates by screwing out the core (rather than buying quick deflator valves) In this hobby, there is no limit for mods and upgrades. We stop when the wallet runs dry or when the passion dies out or most importantly, when common sense kicks in and reminds us whats actually required.

Aye Aye Major 🫡 Looking forward 😎

..... THE LONG RANGE PATROLS (Continued) The LRDG vehicles were mainly two-wheel drive, chosen because they were lighter and used less fuel than four-wheel drive. They were stripped of all non-essentials, including doors, windscreens and roofs. They were fitted with a bigger radiator, a condenser system, built up leaf springs for the harsh terrain, wide, low pressure desert tires, sand mats and channels, plus map containers and a sun compass devised by Bagnold. Having recapped a bit of the LRDG's origin and organization, we'll proceed to create expectation, and a playful atmosphere for the drive, by assigning to each participant a name and a Unit that belonged to this original group of desert experts and explorers. Hence, we'll be riding as: Yours truly - Major Ralph Alger Bagnold @PETELCZYC PAJERO - luke - Major Vladimir 'Popski' Peniakoff - Demolition Team @Faraz94 - Captain Michael Crichton-Stuart, Combat Unit G @Ben Lee - Captain Edward 'Teddy' Cecil Mitford, Combat Unit W @Ahmed Wagdy - Captain P. J. D. McCraith, Combat Unit Y @Richard Franks - Captain Patrick Clayton, Combat Unit T @Bjoern - Captain Donald Gavin Steele, Support Unit R More to be discovered about the LRDG actions and paraphernalia in the next few days. Prepare yourselves to go back a few decades, and re-enact the heroic gestures of the glorious LRDG.

Mia was asking if these guys were scouting for Oasis' and doing mapping for army rest areas this morning heading to school. Your zoszora drive left an impact on her 😆

ABOUT THE LONG RANGE PATROLS The unit, initially known as the No.1 Long Range Patrol Unit (LRP), was founded on 3 July 1940. Bagnold wanted men who were energetic, innovative, self-reliant, physically and mentally tough, and able to live and fight in seclusion in the Libyan desert. The Long Range Patrol comprised a 15-man headquarters with Bagnold in command. Initially there were three sub-units: 'R' Patrol commanded by Captain Donald Gavin Steele, 'T' Patrol commanded by Captain Patrick Clayton and 'W' Patrol commanded by Captain Edward 'Teddy' Cecil Mitford. 'T' and 'W' Patrols were combat units while 'R' Patrol was intended to be a support unit. In November 1940 it was expanded to six Patrols: 'T', 'W' and 'R' Patrols were joined by 'G', 'S' and 'Y' Patrols. in December 1941 the group was joined by the Indian Long Range Squadron. The Indian Squadron was organized with the first two patrols originally known as 'J' (Jats) and 'R' (Rajput) Patrols. In October 1942 two further Indian patrols were formed: 'M' (Muslim) and 'S' (Sikh) Patrols. A Demolition Squadron, nicknamed "Popski's Private Army" and commanded by Major Vladimir 'Popski' Peniakoff, was briefly attached to the LRDG beginning in December 1942. .........

Telal gets a lot of business because of Fred. I have been there twice, camped both times, but they were both in winter.

AAAA. We Want You. Looking for speed loving, stealth driving, adventure seeking desert wanderers, to execute this long-range expedition along the Dubai-Abu Dhabi border.

Nice one @Ben Williams😀

Congrats @Ben Williams looking forward to seeing you on some faster paced drives enjoy FB