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Dear Desert Lovers, we still have few more hours of time before we see each other for our next drive together,, Please find below the convoy order ( Considering the terrain/convoy strength It wont be justice done if we extend it beyond current confirmed participants) - HENCE PLEASE RESPOND WITH A COMMENT if you are dropping off, so the next WL can get the chance and can plan accordingly. We will use channel 2 - 446.031. See you all sharp 7am, deflated, ready for briefing and then to hit the dunes. Please ensure you carry your mandatory Off-road gear per your rank. @Andrei S @Ben Lee @Shiju Raju @Mahesh_ @PAJERO petelczyc luke @Rafey Hashmi @essam ibrahim @Issam Atra @Pacific @rohit kumar @Harshal Have a good weekend start and see you all on Sunday ! @DP1011 & @Gaurav.

RSVP IS NOW CLOSED @Naveen Raj@Alexanderrr@Tareq Al Turq@Ashutosh Garg@Senthil Kumar@AlexM@Jona@munkybizness@Gok Krish@Sunil Mathew Good morning guys ! Please find your convoy positions for tomorrow. The plan is to have a drive which combines some technical areas with some high paced smooth rolling dunes, and keep away from the heavily scarred areas of Sweihan. Be careful in case of fog on the way to your meeting point, as this also means the speed cameras will be set to lower limits, and take care of the lack of visibility. We will be rolling on Channel 2 - 446.031 Mhz and might come across @JeromeFJhis convoy in the Nahel area. See you all tomorrow morning !

@Emanuel @Lala G @Deepak Eswar @Rk ram @Gertjan @Pascal @Alphin Aloor @george charbel @Hugo Last updates for tomorrow morning. Meeting at 7:00 am at https://maps.app.goo.gl/eTX8wtibrfhsXS6D6 The convoy order will be We will use Carnity radio Channel 4. It will be cold in the morning, take a jacket if you don't want to freeze during the briefing and car preparation. Enjoy the evening, take a good rest, and see you tomorrow morning !

Fantastic Fact-based explanation @Zed and this explains why from a club perspective we don't recommend driving in 4Lo it during the learning experience: 1. Every 4x4 is different, and it's hard to tell which 4x4 can survive constant driving in 4Lo and which not. So we keep it safe and advise people to read the manual of the vehicle. 2. During your initial learning experience (first 20-30 drives) it's much more important to learn the art of offroading in 4H and focus on enhancing the skills of reading the sand and lines to choose, and proper deflation. Once you reach a certain level where you are comfortable to start researching if 4LO is an option in your vehicle and you want to take the calculated risks/rewards, then it is solely your choice and not something that's enforced by a club.

Please find your convoy number below. We will use Radio Channel 1 - 446.006 @sohinik @Ghaithh @Mariem @GS periwal @GS periwal @Prithvi Raj @Hani Howeedy @Benjamin @Jasim Bo Falah @ozgu @Rohit Deginal @Andrew John Melvill @Mahmut @Shaun J @Rahul6157 @Renier Venter @Abdullah N @Gary F Gaurav 2 Door - Silver Pajero sohinik Chevrolet Trailblazer Ghaithh 2018 Mitsubishi Pajero - 2 door - brown Mariem Toyota prado GS periwal 2022, GXR, 4 doors Toyota Prado, Blue Prithvi Raj 2017 - Pajero GLS 3.5 - 5 Door - White Hani Howeedy 2015 GMC sierra denali Benjamin 2018 Jeep Wrangler Sport JL silver Jasim Bo Falah Nissan Pathfinder , FJ and Tundra ozgu 2021 Nissan Safari Y61 / White Rohit Deginal Pajero 3.8 - 5 door - brown Andrew John 2020, Mitsubishi Pajero, 4 door, 3.8, white Mahmut Jeep Wrangler 2005 Shaun J 2022 Toyota FJ Cruiser - Blue Rahul6157 2019 Patrol Y62 Silver Renier Venter 2016 Jeep Wrangler 2 door black Abdullah N 2012, Nissan, Patrol, GCC, White Gary F 2021 Jeep Gladiator Sandrunner White

To cut the story short: Senior Marshal Fadi drives in 4Lo, and his convoy won the Desert Champions Trophy (I believe all in his convoy does the same; driving in 4Lo). That's 6 hours of non-stop driving in 4Lo and so yes you can get away with it. His opinion on 4Lo here >> https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cm6VAp4q6lR/?igsh=ZnozYXVhbTNhZHNv So I've re-geared 4x already and I've seen what's inside my transfer case + front & rear diffs. I would never drive 4Lo high speed in my Gear-Driven Transfer Case Land Cruiser, but I've driven a few times in 4Lo with my 5-speed Jeep with Chain-Driven Transfer Case... because Gear-Driven Transfer Case is only suitable for low-speed driving. This is why there is No Generic Rule to 4LO: it primarily depends on the car and secondarily depends on the driver if he wishes to experiment with his car 1) First front & rear to 4.88 gearing to cater for heavier tires on the Land Cruiser 2) Second opened my Transfer Case and re-geared the 4Lo gears to make 1:3 reduction in 4Lo only. 3) Third when installing ARB air lockers (carriers) I opened the front & rear differentials and notice the ring pattern signify that my differentials were not properly installed the first time. So I re-geared front & diff again, this time making sure proper break-in process is followed and triple-checking the backlash & preload of rings & pinions. 4) Finally I opened my Transfer Case again cos I was afraid same thing might happen to the Transfer Case as with the diffs. Then for fun & experiment I re-geared the 4Hi gearing in transfer case by simply changing 2 gears. This basically makes my 4Hi "spin more". The 4.88 in front & rear diffs + the 10% underdrive in 4H gears Transfer Case = 5.3 final drive ratio so I don't need 4Lo for normal sand driving (even if my Transfer Case was Chain-Driven). The whole Transfer Case system is just a GEAR REDUCTION mechanical device. And so a 1:4 Transfer Case Ratio for Rubicon just means the max speed in 4Lo is 1/4th of the max speed in 4Hi. It's like driving slower than 1st Gear, but because there is no -1, -2, -3, -4 Shifter, the wizards invented Transfer Case to go Lower than Normal 1st Gear. Obviously there is no use of these lower gears in the asphalt / normal highway, but depending on car (should you wish to experiment), it may has some advantage in loose-traction areas like sand and slower-but-precision drives like rock-crawling. So will 4Lo break your car? Judging by the simplicity of Gear Reduction concept, it probably won't. BUT older cars like my Land Cruiser have Gear-Driven Transfer Case whcih are not suitable for high-speed motion, so I agree with @Carnity Marshals here that you shouldn't drive in 4Lo with these kind of cars. Newer cars with more transmission shifts and Chain-Driven Transfer Case have more flexibility... with the Chain TransferCase you can drive faster than with Noisy Gear-Driven TransferCase. Most people who broke their transfer case in 4Lo most probably broke their Chain in the transfer case too, but for the adventurous who like to experiment with their cars, go ahead and drive in 4Lo... the theory has been laid out, and now it's time for practice 😁

Dear Desertnauts, in preparation for this Sunday's morning drive, here's what to expect. We plan to drive in a relatively complex terrain, made more challenging by the closeness of many of the dunes' cordons, with potential soft sand pockets, that will require careful "technical" driving, made of great control of the accelerations, respect of the convoy discipline - keeping enough distance between the cars - to allow for timely stopping, as well as to make sure that the preceding car has cleared the obstacle, and at the same time not to lose the tracks. Just the very first segment of the drive will see us moving on rather open territory, with nice large bowls and longer ridges, never too high or steep. Please reach the meeting point a few minutes before 8:00 AM, so that you may start deflating and preparing your car, to ensure a timely departure, as close to the scheduled time as possible. A detailed briefing about all the necessary skills and rules to manage the drive smoothly and safely will be given a few minutes after the start, once into the dunes. Once the drive has exited, at a nice desert cafeteria (Al Namoos), all drivers are welcome to enjoy their lunch in the desert. The convoy order will be the following: @Bhaskar in Second Lead @Nicolò at #3 (make sure you review once again all the introductory material) @Shaun J at #4 @Nizar Shawwa at #5 @Menon at #6 @bony raphi in the Center position @Abdul Hanaan at #8 @Soufiane at #9 @karim hamandi at #10 @SamBha at #11 @Abdullah N at #12 @Maytham Mahroos at #13, and @Bjoern in Sweep. See you on Sunday morning.

See you on Sunday 🙏

Dear Desertnauts, let's get ready for this Sunday's afternoon drive. As this will be Part 2 of this Two for One episode, and the meeting point has been indicated as the Al Namoos cateferia, adjacent to Skydive Dubai (not the one in Marina 😁), you may reach the location as early as you wish and are welcome to join the lunch we'll have there with the Newbie convoy (planned exit at 12:00 PM). Once we'll have reached Lisaili (through a short drive on the tarmac) we will move along the camel track, to reach the entry to Lisaili proper, and we'll go from here to Faqa, mostly across very technical terrain. The convoy order at the moment is the following: @Jessica Lambert in Second Lead @Marek_was003 at #3 @Julien Recan at #4 @Maytham Mahroos at #5 @Arravind at #6 @Gurcharan Mehta in the Center @Robk at #8 @Gautam Banka at #9 @frederic demolder at #10 and @Patrick van der Loo in Sweep. See you all on Sunday. Have a nice weekend.

Im buying a Pro Eagle floor jack, with the height and suspension travel of my truck, even if a standard jack can make contact with the chasis or control arms it still won't be able to lift the tire up off the ground, I learnt this the hard way when I bought a Big Red floor jack only for it to be completely useless. Pro eagle is the gold standard, at least for off-road trucks and its even used in some Baja race trucks, its a bit pricey but I recommend it if you have space and if it suits your needs.

Congratulations @JeromeFJ. It’s makes me immensely happy to see you reach this milestone. Wishing to see you in many happy drives ahead with lots of fun.

Dear Desert Drivers, Thank you for signing-up for the drive on Saturday morning. Just let me know during the day tomorrow in case you changed your plan. I will give you last updates and convoy order by the end of the afternoon. Please check your car if needed to avoid last minute disappointment.

We request every member that joins this drive to go through the information below and strictly follow these guidelines, etiquette and responsibilities. MUST READ AND COMPLY Environmental Policy Offroad Flag Guideline Two Way Radio Guideline Off road Driving Etiquettes Emergency details for all off roaders Off Road Driving - Roles & Responsibilities DRIVE DETAILS Level: Fewbie Plus and above When: 20 January 2024, Saturday Meeting time: 7:00 AM - Sharp Meeting Point: https://maps.app.goo.gl/eTX8wtibrfhsXS6D6 Approximate finish time: 11:00 AM Type of Car: Any proper 4x4 with front and back tow hooks and 8-10 inches of ground clearance. What to bring along: Loads of water, snacks (for yourself), smiles, enthusiasm, and willingness to learn. RECOMENDED OFF-ROAD GEAR: Tire deflator & Tire pressure gauge Compressor (MANDATORY) Walkie-talkie radio (MANDATORY) Off-road flag (MANDATORY) Shovel, Tow Rope & 2 Shackles First-aid kit Fire extinguisher LIMITED SPOTS AVAILABLE This drive is limited to 10 cars only. RSVP will close on Friday - 12 PM. If the RSVP is full, you can add your name to the waitlist, once anyone drops, you will be moved to the RSVP list. RSVP will close a day prior to preparing a convoy list. Latecomers will be returned - Without any exceptions. Members without RSVP will be returned - Without any exceptions. Please withdraw your RSVP, if you aren't joining, so your spot can be taken by others. Repeated no-show members after RSVP will have their account suspended for a month. PLEASE RSVP ON THE CALENDAR

Hello @Rafey Hashmi. Let me confirm to you by tomorrow, if you don't mind. Thanks

Thank you @Ale Vallecchi, I missed it too much... See you on Sunday

• Hi Toyota prado 2016 model silver colour. • No it’s my first time for off-road. • No idea. • I do have.

Dear @Mehmet Volga, welcome back to the desert. I have added you to manage the convoy, See you on Sunday.

Thanks Ale. I am looking forward for it 😀👍

Not sure about Jeeps specifically but my Tundra has relatively heavy tires (315 Baja Champions), of course its Supercharged and modified a lot, but I still never use 4LO, (if you really want better response from heavy and large tires, it better to regear) it stresses the car out too much and I only use it if the car is really badly stuck. In general for most cars, use 4H, use 4LO only if you see the car isn't responding well or when you feel that it needs that extra push.

@GS periwal @Rohit Deginal @Jasim Bo Falah @Gary F @Mariem You have been added to drive RSVP, please confirm if you still like to join.

Dear Desert Lovers - Thank you for showing the interest for this "Bit of everything" Drive ! Considering the number of WL candidates we have, Can I please request you to adjust your RSVP if you foresee any change in plans ! If no change in plans, Is well and good , if change in plans , that's also well and good ( from the point of WL people ) @Andrei S @Ben Lee @Shiju Raju @Mahesh_ @PAJERO petelczyc luke @Rafey Hashmi @essam ibrahim @Issam Atra @Pacific @rohit kumar and the WL folks - @Deepak Eswar @Mahmoud Taha @Harshal @Faraz94 @Bhaskar @Sreenath G @Naim Aoun . Looking forward to seeing you on Sunday !

@Fredericpls excuse me for signing out of the exciting drive ... Am reeling from cold and severe cough. Will not be able to focus properly .. best wishes everyone.