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DRIVE RSVP IS CLOSED NOW Here is the final convoy list Gaurav C Silver Pajero Jun Zamora F Green Wrangler Kieran McKeown N Silver Renault Duster Lisa Pemberton N Black Pajero Veedooshee N White Pajero Sreejith Sreenivasan N Land Rover LR2 Islam Hassan AN Black Dodge Ram sertac I Xterra luwaimn F White Prado Sheri N white pajero Hennie Schoeman AN Jeep Wrangler 2017 Onlyjunaid topgear N FJ Cruiser Nivin F Blue Xterra @Jun Zamora @Kieran McKeown @Lisa Pemberton @Veedooshee @Sreejith Sreenivasan @Islam Hassan @sertac @luwaimn @Hennie Schoeman @Onlyjunaid @topgear @Nivin @sheri Please start 10 minutes earlier as per Google maps direction, as TAWI NIZWA U-Turn is closed due to roadworks, so you have to take u-turn just before badayer, that will cause 10 mins delay. Please be on time, sharp at 5 AM, little early is always better. Please tune to Carnity Channel 1 - 446.006'25 freq and deflate your tires to 15 PSI as soon as you reach to the meeting point. Be inside your car - AT ALL TIMES - after the deflation.

Now someone will open dubizzle with search filter of 2/3 door in Patrol category and start dreaming.

Private owner/sellers are always recommended against the dealers, as most car dealers always have some extra cooking behind the scene to hide or eliminate bad traces or incomplete service history. For buying vehicle, you should have little bit of patience and test out few cars to really compare apple to apple, but for surely this little efforts will pay you off multi-fold in the future. If you are in super rush, buy from reputed dealers (which will be tad expensive) and make sure to insist to see the service history photos first before visiting them. As dealers will always nod head for service history but only 10% cars will have "GENUINE" service history. So don't waste your time with 90% dealers who just say yes to service history and unable to show you the proof. For service history, if they can show you the breakdown, then that's highly preferable, but usually dealer stamp on service book is more than enough for initial visit. If you are serious in buying then you can ask them to fetch a detailed report from dealer to verify the actual past of that car. And run away from cars that has Enoc / Emarat / Adnoc service stickers as oil change is not a service history. And if owner was cutting corner for such expense then many other aspects must have been ignored too. And that defer maintenance will be very expensive and potentially unsafe for you as a new buyer.

Mitsubishi parts are the most expensive among Japanese brands but it will also outlast accordingly. So if you are fine with limited offroad capability (not great) and happy to accept limited resale value then Yes Montero is a safer bet. For lowering year to 2016 for Prado is actually better to eliminate first 3 years exorbitant resale drop. And if you go in those lines then do research how much they have been changed in tech from 2016 - 2018 model. I bet none, as Toyota is so slow to add new features unless they have tested 1000% in all continents unlike Germans. Btw, Prado are more comfier, spacious than FJC and holds resale value - The Best.

Very wisely said that Mitsubishi Monetro Sport has poor resale value as you can see it dropped almost 40K in 5 months, I know its a distress sale, COVID, people going back, but still huge drop. Toyota's are best in resale, then Nissan and then Honda and Mitsu - in Japanese segment. My first bet with given budget + offroad choice = FJC or Prado. If you consider extreme offroading in the future FJC requires no expense, but Prado need a bash plate and/or bumper trimming/change. And if you are in UAE and an outdoor loving soul, at some point you will hit the desert. And at that time you definitely don't want to be sitting on roadside sand and enjoy the dunes view than driving by yourself.

Sorry my bad, thanks for clarifying.

Many badging are just for marketing and advertising department. Unless you modify and/or protect under body properly Jeep Grand Cherokee have few week spots. @Brette can share his views as an owner + offroader. For FJC, visibility is not so bad as people scare about, if you are interested, I suggest test drive few and decide. FJC can really tick all boxes + extreme offroading with "Toyota Reliability" (Really a blessing and a big deal) for UAE extreme temperature. For FJC being discontinued model, don't worry too much as all car models once discontinue will have full dealer support with parts and maintenance for 10-15 years easy. If you like to go this route call up Al Futtaim and check what is their official stand on supporting FJC until 2025 or 2030. Because it was a part of an off-road club based on off-road subscription. Moved to general discussion, you should be able to access it now.

Hi Bhaskar, welcome to Carnity and congrats on getting your driving license, that too in 7 months. Though you drafted your car buying concern quiet nicely, but before I proceed let me just bring one last game-changer point of view from being a car enthusiast + off-roader in Dubai. Read the topic below and ask yourself what type of offroading you and your wife are expecting from this new vehicle.

I have added you to the list, now.

Yes, I have split this into new topic as your original post was seeking help to know how is it than to suggest to add it to the list.

Oops, I missed on that point. Now G012 and G015 - I personally have no comments, unless I use G015 too. But going by the Yokohama credibility and super happy with G012, I will definitely give G015 a try.

@J J sad and truly shocked to see such incident. Glad you and Jeep are fine. Keep us updated. @Nivin If you drive a lot then 2019, if not then 2020 will be fetch additional 1 year of RTA passing.

Dremel - all the way.

You mean Rockford. Mark Levinson is in Lexus.

You still don't know the other half of the story why @Chaitanya D mentioned this. Ill leave the surprise for him to share/show.

I agree too with @Frederic

Welcome back buddy, how everyone back home? Hope all good and safe now?

u mean 276C - THE LEGEND

Me too.

@Wrangeld G012 and G015 are almost identical and in some cases even superior. Correct me if I have missed something somewhere, love to know more about G015 research, please.

This drive is organized in full compliance with the COVID19 guidelines. We expect every member that joins this drive to go through below information and and strictly follow these guidelines in order not to jeopardize someone's health, and to ensure we can keep organizing these drives safely. MUST READ AND TOTALLY AGREE: COVID19 Precautions MUST READ AND TOTALLY AGREE: BAN POST Two Way Radio Guidelines Every Offroader brings his own radio, programmed to the frequencies described in below advice topic. We will not share spare radios or program your radio on the drive. If you need assistance in programming the radio, post a topic on the Carnity website with your questions and we will help you out. Make sure your radio is fully charged. It will be your only way of communication while driving. Before buying, please carefully read below advice so you are informed properly on which model / cost / shops... No radio = No drive. It is an essential tool and you should make sure you bring it on every drive and learn/practice how to use it. MUST WATCH: NEWBIE VIDEO BRIEFING Drive Details Level: Newbie, Absolute Newbie and Above (All Levels) When: July 24 2020, Friday. Meeting time: 5:00 AM (SHARP - Without any exceptions) Meeting Point: Tawi Nazwa Farm - https://goo.gl/maps/LjPWf8DebrAuNSWg9 Type of Car: Any proper 4x4 with front and back tow hooks and 8-10 inches of ground clearance. What to bring along: Loads of water, snacks (for yourself), face mask, rubber gloves, enthusiasm and willingness to learn. Approximate finish time: 09:00 AM End Point: 2nd Dec Cafeteria P.S. Only join if you have a compressor to inflate your tires after the drive. LIMITED SPOTS AVAILABLE: Limited to 15 cars only. RSVP will close on Thursday - 9 AM. 1 Lead Marshal + 1-2 Senior Members + 12 Members. If the RSVP is full and you wish to join, please mention your name on the drive thread to add on the waiting list. Latecomers will be returned back - without ANY EXCEPTIONS. Members without RSVP will be returned back - without ANY EXCEPTIONS. Please withdraw your RSVP, if you aren't joining, so your spot can be taken by others. Repeated no-show members after RSVP will have their account suspended for a month. PLEASE RSVP THE BELOW CALENDAR EVENT

I thought my experience was ancient, so they must have changed/improved now. But after reading these it reminds me vaguely too claiming the cooper warranty once with renaissance trading in Deira over some problem (cant recall the problem). https://www.consumeraffairs.com/tires/cooper.html?page=6

Won't say fully bad, but not as great as Geolander. Cooper ATR are again heavy (more fuel consumption), beefy tires that looks nice but makes lot of highway noise due to aggressive tread pattern. They are good in self recoveries due to such pattern but limit the climb unless you have serious power mods. Worst thing of ATR and BFG I hated the most was loosing chunks after 6-12 months of use and make tire looking bald from different angles and shoulders.

Not if I am driving with AC on. In some offroad drives, as we push too much so I switch off the AC and in those drives, phone do overheat, both iPhone and Samsung so its more of an ambient temperature than the mount or phone fault. But it never heated while on highway, as im always using the AC on tarmac.