Wrangeld Posted April 21, 2021 Author Share Posted April 21, 2021 1 hour ago, Thomas Varghese said: In short Richard @Wrangeld is implying you are on your own if you make a mistake and get stuck. Sounds great. I started my prayers already not to get stuck as its too difficult to shovel with my hefty frame. As I couldn't think of any usable excuses to back out I'm in. Moreover I RSVP'ed for this drive as I don't have 1 on Friday. Could have but my daughter is returning back home on Friday after her vacation and felt bad when she said I can keep the keys under the doormat if I'm going for a drive and she will take a taxi home. Richard has already whipped up the curiosity and I can't wait to do my 3rd IM drive. Hopefully I won't be physically tested to the limits. Godspeed to Saturday. Actually, no I am not suggesting you are on your own, more that at IM you should have the skill set to get yourself out of trouble and not rely on the guy with the winch to pull you out. If there's no option, that's fine, but it cannot be the default position. Yes, IM should be fast paced - when moving. But if someone gets a refusal then take the time and work the problem. That's how we get to be better drivers. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Varghese Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 1 minute ago, Wrangeld said: Actually, no I am not suggesting you are on your own, more that at IM you should have the skill set to get yourself out of trouble and not rely on the guy with the winch to pull you out. If there's no option, that's fine, but it cannot be the default position. Yes, IM should be fast paced - when moving. But if someone gets a refusal then take the time and work the problem. That's how we get to be better drivers. It was just pun. Anyways I know you will not leave me out in the desert and move on. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francois Germishuys Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 @Wrangeld please add me to the drive, first drive. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ahab Shamaa Posted April 21, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 21, 2021 16 hours ago, Wrangeld said: OK - Wednesday morning and you're all making weekend plans. Here's my pre-briefing for the drive on Saturday: No dropouts please, because your Friday drive overran or you're tired or the dog ate your homework. If you don't know your weekend plan by now, unless thermonuclear war breaks out, your vehicle got damaged on Friday or there's a real family emergency, any other excuse will be called for what it is. IM drive instructions are pretty simple. If you have a problem, call it out. If you can self recover, take the time needed and do it. If you need help, ask. It's not a race so we are not looking for the fastest recoveries so we can move on. There is a hierarchy in sorting out problems. Drive, dig, rope, winch, helicopter. At IM, you get yourself into trouble, you get yourself out. No excuses, no blame. If you got stuck you got stuck. It's not because the guy/girl in front braked suddenly = you were too close or not in control of your speed. It's not because you did not see the correct line = you're IM so if you don't see the line, make the adjustments needed. Focus on you. Short, implies this will be a technical challenge. It will help your drive skills immensely. Sharp, implies criss cross, ridges and side slipping. Let's see which gives more pleasure. See you Saturday in the Sand. I love your Covid compliant, pre-brief @Wrangeld! To the point and calls a spade, a spade 😀 I wholeheartedly agree with the points you mentioned. I would like to add: - Don’t be late; aim to be moving @ 15:00. This translates into more driving time and more enjoyment - Don’t bring passengers if you think they might get sick or distract you. Exiting passengers is a waste of time and a buzz killer. Newbie/Fewbie drives are more suited for an IM Carnitian to bring company. If the aim is to impress family/friends, take a video of the drive, and boast about your amazing driving skills later - Don’t attend the drive if you suspect your car has any mechanical issues. The IM drives are more demanding and will amplify any issues with the car - Don’t fight gravity and watch your speed; IM is not a license to go crazy, and IM certainly does not mean you can’t roll over 😬 Finally, let’s have loads of fun! See you all on the sand Saturday 😘 8 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francois Germishuys Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 (edited) Also can everyone with winches remove them before the drive (😬), i think it has become a luxury these last few months, to easy to use. Those that repeatedly get stuck needs to do it the old school way and shovel 🥄, its the best way to learn, and if your health is put at risk due to excessive shoveling then reconsider this drive 😎✌🏼 I like how @Wrangeld has put it above, if you got stuck it’s because of you and not the guy in front of you, you need to manage yourself by keeping a safe following distance, focus and dont get distracted, and follow the leads tracks, if you feel the need to blame the guy in front of you for getting stuck then that means you did not manage that situation like you should by now in the IM level be able to do. have a good weekend all, see you Saturday! Edited April 22, 2021 by Francois Germishuys 5 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrangeld Posted April 22, 2021 Author Share Posted April 22, 2021 30 minutes ago, Francois Germishuys said: Also can everyone with winches remove them before the drive (😬), i think it has become a luxury these last few months, to easy to use. Those that repeatedly get stuck needs to do it the old school way and shovel 🥄, its the best way to learn, and if your health is put at risk due to excessive shoveling then reconsider this drive 😎✌🏼 I like how @Wrangeld has put it above, if you got stuck it’s because of you and not the guy in front of you, you need to manage yourself by keeping a safe following distance, focus and dont get distracted, and follow the leads tracks, if you feel the need to blame the guy in front of you for getting stuck then that means you did not manage that situation like you should by now in the IM level be able to do. have a good weekend all, see you Saturday! Thanks Francois - said it for me. The winch is a lovely tool, but it's not you, the driver getting yourself free when you are winched out ... and what are you going to do when your lovely friend with the winch happens not to be on the drive? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrangeld Posted April 22, 2021 Author Share Posted April 22, 2021 Carnitians of the Saturday Afternoon IM drive, Here it is: Now you all know where you need to be. We will operate a buddy system in case someone needs assistance to recover. As everyone should have all the IM kit helping each other will be quicker. Radio Channel #2. Covid rules still apply so deflate, flag-up and wait for the go ahead to move - we should be able to have a rolling brief. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Varghese Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 7 minutes ago, Wrangeld said: As everyone should have all the IM kit helping each other will be quicker. Dear Richard @Wrangeld does this mean I need to get out and buy a flat bed jack now along with the wooden plank? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaurav Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 9 hours ago, Francois Germishuys said: Also can everyone with winches remove them before the drive (😬), i think it has become a luxury these last few months, to easy to use. Those that repeatedly get stuck needs to do it the old school way and shovel 🥄, its the best way to learn, and if your health is put at risk due to excessive shoveling then reconsider this drive 😎✌🏼 Very well said @Francois Germishuys winch should be the super duper last option and not the 1st, if anyone wish to grow in this extreme sport. Surprise to hear it has become a luxury option, lately. SAD. We off-road not only for driving pleasure but also to enjoy the challenge of getting unstuck and learning along the way with self-recoveries, shovel and tow-rope tugs. Yes winch are good when you are pressed for time in scorching heat of 55 degrees or all options exhausted then it's useful. 2 1 2 Let's root for each other & watch each other grow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Thomas Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 (edited) @Wrangeld I am gutted, but I am stuck in Pemba up in the North of Mozambique. Was meant to be on flight back to arrive tonight into Dubai, but with the joys of African logistics and way of life, it is not possible and I am stuck her for another two days. Such a shame, as this sounds right up my street. Have a great drive!! Edited April 23, 2021 by Jack Thomas 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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