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Dear @Danish Mohammad, @JeromeFJ, @Abdul Rahman AK, @Lakshmi Narasimhan, @Werno, @Russ, @RooRzOn, you are confirmed for this drive. @Darren Brooke, @GauravSoni, you are waitlisted for your 2nd drive. Have a nice week!

Good morning everyone, thank you @Kailasfor the amazing drive and thank you @Chaitanya D and @Rob H for the support @Thomas Varghese @Fabien Monleau @Gok Krish @Wade Pat2 @Farouq Owdeh Enjoy the videos

@Alain Canivet-Abikhalil @Marwan Haddad @Christopher Assal @Zixuan Huang @Lakshmi Narasimhan @Sunil Mathew @Darren Brooke @TT_Dubai @darren thompson @RooRzOn Hello Everyone, I hope you all are doing well and i am looking forward to see you for the drive tomorrow. Our plan for the drive, is to start from Murquab area, work towards Lisaili and Qudra until sunset. We will go through different types of terrain with a good mixture of technical and long range dune too. I have attached the convoy list below and we will be using the Radio Channel 1 (44600625). Till then, take care and be safe.

Thank you @Frederic @Danish Mohammad @Zixuan Huang @jeetu sharma @M.Seidam @Lakshmi Narasimhan @Ranjan Das @Shaaz Sha @TT_Dubai @Chaitanya D @Anish S @Hisham Masaad @Brette appreciate it!

The 3 things that are gonna affect your lighting is function (flood v/s spot v/s combo), location (bumper, hood/windshield, roof), and price. LEDs (especially strips/bars) are cheap and give you the combo. Otherwise you need to do some mixing and matching. If I wanna super honest, the location is more about aesthetics. The most functional location is a smaller (20 inch) bar on your bumper, you can very optionally support that with a couple of hood/windshield lights for spread (you need to angle them outwards). The price is more connected with the longevity than performance. You'll find a lot of really bright lights for cheap, but they don't come with proper warranties. My approach is dualistic: Get cheaper ones and try them out so that if I regret a location or level of brightness I can replace parts without too much crying in the corner. Commit when they break down and I have experience to buy expensive stuff. I'm also a "balance form with function" person, so I'll admit to sometimes compromising to get a better look. For example, I have roof lights that create a higher drag on the highway, but I love the way they look. Let's face it, if I wanted aerodynamics, I wouldn't have bought a brick with wheels. My setup is in the pics, I can tell you where I got the lights from if you're interested, but putting 2 of the roof lights on your bumper is more than enough, what I did was overkill for the balanced look. That said, don't skimp on installation. The wrong angle (especially for roof lights) will give a strong hood reflection and mess up your view, no chance of that with bumper lights that you can probably install at home (that's how i tried my first set but the wiring took a while the first time)

Ale - thanks for asking. It's working fine, looks like it needed to cool down. So will get it diagnosed first to see if its an electronic issue or a heating issue or something else.... first guess is that maybe an auxiliary transmission cooler, we will see. Will be back on the sand in quick time - once its taken care of...

Hey @Chaitanya D, I meant learning progress, not promotion. My question was about which class to take since there are 2. Option 1: Desert Driving Masterclass (feels like I will re-learn things I already know) Option 2: Advanced Desert Driving Course (might be too early for me) Which one do you recommend?

I have 1 spare which @Hisham Masaad has given. I can give you.

Hi @Anish S, since I've done a lift I can answer this: 1. You need to look into BODY LIFT (not suspension lift), this moves the body away from the frame (but not giving you a higher ground clearance like suspension lift), so your tyres will not rub the top. 2. If Body Lift is not an option, or after you did Body Lift there's still rubbing, look into "Pounding/Hammering the Pinch Weld", this is best shown in pictures here >> Finally, the Pinch Weld Mod – ADVENTURETACO 3. There's a 3rd option if you don't like modifying your car and keep it as much stock as possible: downgrading your tyre profile. Currently it's 265/70 = 70% x 265mm = 185.5mm = 7.3 inch sidewall. If you decrease the sidewall, say getting a 255/70/R16 = 70% x 255mm = 178.5mm = 7 inch sidewall, less 0.3 inch. Will lessening sidewall to -0.3" prevent rubbing? You need to test this... if you have friends with 255/70/R16 who are willing to lend you their tires for testing all good, else it's a bit of a hassle to hunt for 2nd hand tires and re-sell them if they still rub or you don't like the lower profile... Good luck with whatever choice tho 🤙

There is a shop in AL Qusais it is readily available, an internet search as mentioned will give you the address and details.

@Super Safari Girl just google "Mean Mother Air Compressor - High Output 160LPM dubai" and you may get some leads

Well done mate @Russlooking forward to seeing you and the beast on the next Fewbie + drive

Dear friends Regarding this never ending and quite interesting topic among all off-roaders and from a humble own and other shared experience as well as knowledge from the internet including our lovely and interactive forum allow me please to express how do I understand it : the electronic traction control with all of its evolution since invented came in the first place to assess the drivers on tarmac when the ground is slippery ( rain , snow , gravels .. etc ) especially during turning for smooth and controllable running of the wheels on ground like in AWD system despite its more of fuel consumption which is beyond the scope of my point.having said that here come the coupling of the ABS and traction control where the least resistant ( e.g patch of water under one wheel ) will receive less power than the other three to keep the others spinning and not to slip. Now the situation will be completely different when you are doing a sidy in inclination in a semi curve path on soft sand . In the later all the 4 wheels need to be kept spinning all time . Now if your traction control and ABS is activated and not off the engine will cut off the power via beaks to the least resistant encountering tire and this may lead to lethal fishtailing and eventually roll over at worst scenario. if the vehicle is equipped by the manufacturer for full shut down of the stability control ( which I doubt due to civil disclaimer and safety ) that you can operate from the cockpit then it’s fine . Other wise two choices no third we are left with , either to pull the appropriate fuses or to press the kill switch. And both options has advantages and disadvantages. while for some they have no choice than to pull fuses because there is no other way or because they don’t wana mess with the circuit by inappropriately installing kill switches . On the other hand if the kill switch done correctly by experienced personnel with the particular vehicle then it’s more than fine. Finally in either way the sequence how to operate it is extremely important. car off , keys out from ignition , fuse pull out or kill switch on , key in , ignition, switch on and the reverse sequence in the reverse order . If happens and you plug the fuse in or you press the kill switch off while the ignition is on then here where comes the mess and disorder ( personal experience ) tip : if you get stuck on soft sand try to crawl and wiggle while the all your fuses plugged in or your kill switch is off , it worked with my Xterra , worked with others in Pagero as example and I believe will work with you as well 😉 cheers

2 RSVPs and 3 to manage....Bollywood fans can relate to situation 😃 ....just a thought, any possibility this can be translated to a qualifying drive for some of us who have been waiting on boundaries for a while..2 extreme have already been cancelled due to low participation Disclaimer - i am fully aligned with the idea behind the new rules. Just sharing my thoughts as having been on one of the extremes drive, i want to explore the fun more. Carnity team has always surprised us with innovative ideas, so i am sure the plans for qualifying drive will be equally interesting. So please take my suggestion only in positive frame. I have no doubts that team will choose what's best for us as drivers and club as a whole ..Cheers. @Carnity@Luca Palanca Falsini @Gaurav

Hi @Super Safari Girl, after starting out with a TJM single compressor I quickly realised that it wasn’t up to the job - took too long and cut out in summer temperatures before I had reached ideal pressure…I decided to install an on-board ARB twin compressor and together with a 4-in-1 hose system it’s a complete game changer! A process that previously took the best part of 30 minutes is now done in less than 10…not cheap but definitely worth it..

@Chaitanya D @Lorenzo Candelpergher Thanks again for everything and for the report. I'm thinking of speeding my progress a little by taking one of the trainings, but I feel like the basic one would be too basic and would prefer doing the fewbie/intermediate. Since you've seen me out there, what would you recommend? Roy

General Info This drive is organized in full compliance with the COVID19 guidelines. We expect every member that joins this drive to go through below information and and strictly follow these guidelines in order not to jeopardize someone's health, and to ensure we can keep organizing these drives safely. MUST READ AND TOTALLY AGREE: COVID19 Precautions 2.0 MUST READ AND TOTALLY AGREE: Ban Post TWO WAY RADIO GUIDELINES Every Off-roader brings his own radio, programmed to the frequencies described in below advice topic. We will not share spare radios or program your radio on the drive. If you need assistance in programming the radio, post a topic on the Carnity website with your questions and we will help you out. Make sure your radio is fully charged. It will be your only way of communication while driving. Before buying, please carefully read below advice so you are informed properly on which model / cost / shops... No radio = No drive. It is an essential tool and you should make sure you bring it on every drive and learn/practice how to use it. SUGGESTED READING: Carnity Two Way Radio Frequencies Drive Details Level: Newbie and Above (All Levels) When: 18June 2021, Friday Meeting time: 8.30 PM (SHARP - Without any exceptions) Meeting Point: Mahafiz Pylon Track: https://goo.gl/maps/15oiBtFUPBxsvZKm7 Type of Car: Any proper 4x4 with front and back tow hooks and 8-10 inches of ground clearance. What to bring along: Loads of water, snacks (for yourself), smiles, face mask, rubber gloves, enthusiasm, willingness to learn and your own compressor for tire inflation. Approximate finish time: midnight Limited Spots Available: Limited to 12 cars only. RSVP will close on Friday - 9 AM. If the RSVP is full and you wish to join, please mention your name on the drive thread to add on the waiting list. Latecomers will be returned back - without ANY EXCEPTIONS. Members without RSVP will be returned back - without ANY EXCEPTIONS. Please withdraw your RSVP, if you aren't joining, so your spot can be taken by others. Repeated no-show members after RSVP will have their account suspended for a month. PLEASE RSVP ON BELOW CALENDAR

No, that's what its there for, and offroading its normal to hit them. Removing or shortening the bump stop would cause issues to all of those.

@Foxtrot Oscar it was a very enjoyable drive, I think I’ve truly mastered the Crawl Control Function on the Land Cruiser 🤭 Looking forward to more days out By the way guys if anyone managed to get a video of me getting stuck, I’d appreciate it if you can send it onto me 0559001092 thanks

I can collect it from @Thomas Varghese. thanks buddy thanks @Thomas Varghese, I will collect it when ever we meet in ajman

@Christopher Assal For night off-roading, light bar and spot is much more effective than trying to upgrade the headlights. Headlights are more suited for on road use. There are light bar that have combinations of both spot and flood lights so that you can get a good wide angle brightness. On the other hand, You can also opt for set of cubic led spot and flood lights and install it as per your requirement. e.g for the sides you can use the flood light and for the forward you can use spot light to enhance the brightness. you can also check the below thread, there might be some interesting information for you

Hi @Roy Armale none of the classes will hasten your progress in terms of promotion to next levels. But you will hone your skills in a faster way with the Marshals at Carnity. We only exempt a person who attends the Masterclass from taking a Absolute newbie drive. I would recommend take your time, enjoy the progress because with each drive you learn something. As long as you enjoy your drives and the learning which comes with it is a fantastic feeling. I would not advise you to start pushing for the next level just for the sake of getting there.

@PaoloMaraziti 2nd drive waitlist - noted 👍 @Shaaz Sha welcome buddy! only 1-2 steps in front to the manage tab but anyway, you are managing the drives already See you on the sand!

Well done @Russ, always a pleasure to drive with you !

TC in JL has a switch works good for ESC, TC off...for ABS i have never disconnected, i know @Ilyaremoves the fuse for that...can share his thoughts

Congrats @Gregory. Enjoy the new level.

hi @Mehmet Volga, plz consider me to the manage tab🙏🙏

Now, that's a good question. Why is it I feel dumb again 🤣 I am due to go to the garage tomorrow to learn more about it as it was installed only two weeks again. I will let you know by then

Murqaab to Solar Park: Chased by the Sun - Drive Report "Strength doesn't come from what you can do. It comes from overcoming you things you once thought you couldn't." - Rumi Dear Desertanuts. When I plan Newbie drives I prefer to look into areas that can offer e variety of challenges, which can allow, on one hand, to escalate the drive to a higher level of difficulty, and on the other, to guarantee that any troubles and delays can be safely handled, with a number of exit points readily available. The former aspect, that of being able to bump the drive up, is the one that I dedicate more time to: to be able to reach a more challenging level, testing the drivers' skills beyond their perceived levels, and beginning to get a taste of what's to come at higher ranks. In this particular drive, the area of Murqaab was perfect for a nice and easy start, with its tall but humpy and gentle dunes. After the warm up, and a short drive along the sand highway connecting Murqaab to Lisaili, the latter plateau provided the perfect terrain for pushing the drive to higher levels. The low, compact and open dunes at the beginning of the Lisaili area were great for setting the drive's pace a little faster. After a while, with the convoy in full swing, the taller and tighter dunes, dotted with long canyons and deeper sandy bowls, gave the convoy a preview of what Fewbie and above drives are going to be. All of the above while we were always followed by the sun, rising higher and warmer in the sky behind the convoy. A couple of nice treats made the drive even more interesting: a small copse of Ghaf trees, in an area I strayed into for the first time, and a spectacular long caravan of camels, led by their shepherd, on the back of his "desert ship". The drive came to an end just next to so-called "Three Trees", where another camel's caravan was resting under the shade provided by these 3 lonely trees, taking the place of the caravans and tents which often occupy this great picnic and sunset area, just next to the tarmac road from Solar Park to Qudra Lakes. From the drive and convoy's points of view, I walked away from the drive with a pleasant taste in my mouth, and a smile on my lips. All drivers did great, rising to the Lisaili challenge, "overcoming things they may once have thought they couldn't". The stucks occurred mostly at the beginning of the drive, when cars and drivers were still "cold", while a number of expectable refusals, in the middle if Lisaili, were expertly handled by the omnipresent duo of @Veedooshee and @Mukundan Nair, always offering calm, reassuring, and competent advise to support the members' self recoveries. Considering the smoothness of the drive, I question myself if I made it too easy. More likely, the convoy responded greatly to the obstacles, testing themselves successfully with rudiments of ridge riding and criss-crossing, where the gentle nature of the dunes allowed them. So well done do everybody: @Alfred Alinazar (very well executed Second Lead), @Paolo Pellegrini, @Naim Aoun, @Abdul Rafay-S, @shu yang (I hope your kid recovered from the sea-sickness), @Jamil Abou Assali, @Joseph Sebastian (how is your car's gear?), @Luc Khaldoun (always drive in "snow mode" from now on), and @Ivan Pironi. Great drive all of you!! At the end of the day, with the sun having caught up with us, and well high in the sky, the drive lasted 3:50 hours, of which 2:30 moving, covering 60.3 Km, at 24 Km/h while moving (and 16 Km/h overall average speed). As far as the bonus drive provided for @Yousef Alimadadi (great thanks for taking up the lead of the extended half of the convoy), @Vanessa8580 (sweeping it to safety), @Kalahari, @Thomas Varghese, @Veedooshee and @Mukundan Nair, the Intermediates and above who had joined the extended convoy, well, there isn't much to say. In fact, almost the entire drive was done in silence, every driver just concentrated on the route, and enjoying a flawless performance. We went from the "Three Trees", across the tarmac, toward the southern long dunes of Bab al Shams, and all the way up to Qudra's exit, zipping through all kinds of terrains, covering 53.6 Km in just 1:39 hour (with only 2 minutes of stopping time (due to a piece of vegetation getting stuck at the back of Vanessa' car and setting her alarms off), driving at an average moving speed of 33Km/h. A superb and totally fun drive, worthy of Carnity's Long Range Desert Patrols, which concluded a great Friday morning. Thanks to all for joining. Have a great week ahead.

Waitlist 1. Gok Krish

Pls add me to Waitlist, thanks! I am not on any other drive this weekend. Missed to register in time. But I will have my COVID test done on Wednesday after drive with Ale and be ready just in case it opens up....

Hi kindly waitlist me for my second drive.

Please waitlist… 2nd drive

Darren Brooke - Waitlist for 2nd Drive Please

@Anish S, are you sure you are buttoming out? There is another reason why this might be happening, if you hit your bumper or fender before, the metal might slightly bend towards the inside and thus when you make full turns left or right while driving the tire might rub the fender.

Super news @Gregory well done!

congrats @Gregory. 👏👏

Great driving @Gregory. Congratulations.

Congratulations @Gregory

Congrats @Gregory

Well done @Gregory !

If your hoses and cable are long enough, try to put the compressor on your seat. There will be less risk of dust getting inside and it will run cooler as well.

This is for Jeeps, but I thought would be of your interest @Anish S, how to measure bump stop length: https://www.jk-forum.com/forums/modified-jk-tech-2/how-measure-bump-stop-length-332213/

Thank you @Lorenzo Candelpergher and @Chaitanya D. I joined the group with zero 4x4 experience, very low expectations and lots of over confidence. It was a humbling experience with new found respect for desert and the driving skill of you both but the most impressive part of the group was the manner in which you helped everyone in every situation and ensured safety of the group. great work guys and looking forward to our next adventure

Drive Report: Dear friends @Roy Armale, @Clay Neddo, @sachin suvarna, @Simon Ducos, @Haris Javed, @Vikas Bhatia, @arjumand, @Marwan Haddad, @Roy Dsouza, @hasan hamadeh pic below at Richie's bar in Qudra area It is always special when you join a club to enjoy as a hobby and over time you have learned so much to share with new friends who join in. Absolute newbie is one drive which is always so fun for all the seniors to impart and introduce all the safe practices. This report of mine has been made easier by @Lorenzo Candelpergher who has beautifully described what all you need to do as he was having a birds eye view on the entire convoy being in the center. Thank you so much. To high light a few more learning points: 1. Please learn to improve on what all you learnt and experienced today - , deflations, approach, throttle control and using the gears/diff locks to get out of situations. 2. Keep to convoy positions at all times, keep a close watch on cars in front and behind you. 3. Radio communication and acknowledgement is prime 4. Please follow advices given by the seniors - which will help you get out of a situation without damaging your car. 5. Do not venture out on a different track on your own. With regards to deflation depending on the style you drive and which tires you are running you can go down to 15 psi for normal road tires and 12 psi if you have off road all terrain tires. You can keep reducing by 0.5 psi as you progress till you get that sweet spot where the pressure will be perfect to get the best performance of your car for your style of driving, without risking a pop out. You will learn and experience this as you progress and join more drives. From now on you all have done a fantastic debut with Carnity and are welcome to join more drives in future. Remember to get your mandatory off road gear by next time you join - Radio (and program it), Shovel, Deflator, Compressor and a off road flag. More information on these in the link below Please join in the whatsapp notification group for announcements on drives planned. The drives for weekends go live for RSVP on sunday at 7 PM. Please note to choose your drive correctly as these are generally full within minutes. Link to join below If you feel you have more experience and would like to upgrade your level to more challenging drives then you are welcome to do a self declaration as per the link below which will be reviewed . Some stats from the drive in the picture below - of course you can reduce 8-10 km which we drove for one car to be exited Last but not the least - immense thanks to @Brette and @Lorenzo Candelpergher for joining this drive and supporting. They have shared some great tips with you all, which you need to improve on. Hope you all had good fun joining this club. I wish to see you all soon on some other drives . If you have any queries / suggestions - you are welcome to ask here by tagging me as Chaitanya D. Cheers

Just wanted to thank @Chaitanya D @Lorenzo Candelpergher and @Brette for the great drive this morning and for dealing with a lot of ups and downs (see what I did there?) with all of us. It was a great intro to riding with Carnity and I learned a lot. Can't wait for the upcoming drives with all of you.