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Now someone will open dubizzle with search filter of 2/3 door in Patrol category and start dreaming.

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I will tell you the secret of compressor longevity. Put your AC on full blast put your compressor near the vent. Center console or seat point all vents towards it and snake the wire andd hose out the window. And after every tyre switch it off. Until you detach go around and attach it to your next tyre.

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i'm inclined to believe that Montero Sport is not to be underestimated. It's relatively light (2070kg) , has 8 speed gearbox with around 215hp, and the 30 degree approach angle on stock version is also not too bad. I've seen @Szymon Stankiewicz taking it to Fewbie level without any hiccups. Of course it's not a contender against a FJ Cruiser, and the Prado 4.0 is far more powerful, but for this price you won't find anything in this league. It's indeed funny to see how Prado is keeping their value. Has to be together with the Batrol the least depreciating car in the UAE.

I was just about to say the EXACT same thing. I agree the Montero Sport ticks all the boxes. Fun to drive, modern, less bulky than the Pajero, good offroader....

I use to remove all my offroad gear during the week to reduce fuel consumption, but as Murphy's law goes i got called twice by some friends and neighbors that got stuck in the desert and in need of recovery but all my stuff was at home. Since then i keep everything in the car, but neatly organized.

@Bhaskar I have a 2107 Grand Cherokee Limited. Going by just your first post and what you expect from vehicle, the Grand Cherokee fits the bill in every department. I drive an average of 6k Kms per month with my job and off-road every weekend with Carnity and it has served me well with minimal modifications. If at some point you decide you want to do a higher level of off roading, there will be limitations and at that point you would need to take a call on modifications based on your requirement.

yes exactly. if @Bhaskar is not into hardcore offroad or dune bashing, this is really good deal. but 1 small thing to consider is poor resale value compared to Toyota, But better than Jeep i guess.

Based on your needs, if you are not too fussed with something that is more than 3 years old and more mileage, it is worth while to go for FJ, Prado or Fortuner. They would have 5 years warranty from Al Futtaim so it is still possible to get something with some residual warranty period remaining. If you want something newer and correspondingly lower mileage, I would personally go for Pajero or Montero. It is currently the buyer's market. So please test drive the cars that you have shortlisted and decide. Happy car hunting!

As we are getting closer to the weekend, this is a reminder to all the drivers who have so far signed up for this drive to ensure that they have gone through the COVID19 regulations for the drive. We need your formal acknowledgement and commitment to comply with them by clicking on the "Totally Agree" emoji button inside the COVID post. Also, please spend 15 minutes with undivided attention to the Absolute Newbie Briefing Video. This is essential for the safety of you and your vehicle in the desert. @Newton Rozario @Vijaysekhar @Myles Keague @Arun Mathew - Please share your vehicle details - Make, Model, Year. - Do you have any prior off-road experience? - Confirm your vehicle has front and rear tow hooks / eyelets.

Private owner/sellers are always recommended against the dealers, as most car dealers always have some extra cooking behind the scene to hide or eliminate bad traces or incomplete service history. For buying vehicle, you should have little bit of patience and test out few cars to really compare apple to apple, but for surely this little efforts will pay you off multi-fold in the future. If you are in super rush, buy from reputed dealers (which will be tad expensive) and make sure to insist to see the service history photos first before visiting them. As dealers will always nod head for service history but only 10% cars will have "GENUINE" service history. So don't waste your time with 90% dealers who just say yes to service history and unable to show you the proof. For service history, if they can show you the breakdown, then that's highly preferable, but usually dealer stamp on service book is more than enough for initial visit. If you are serious in buying then you can ask them to fetch a detailed report from dealer to verify the actual past of that car. And run away from cars that has Enoc / Emarat / Adnoc service stickers as oil change is not a service history. And if owner was cutting corner for such expense then many other aspects must have been ignored too. And that defer maintenance will be very expensive and potentially unsafe for you as a new buyer.

- Keep it out of the sun during use. - Don’t overload it: inflate max up to 4 tyres and give it some rest. - Replace the hose if it’s leaking otherwise your compressor will have to work much longer and harder and will eventually overload. - Be careful with the unit, store it in a bag and don’t throw it around. With the Dragon Mart compressors you need some luck. Some will easily last a couple of years, others will fail after a few weeks or months.

On a regular basis, we get requests from the more "modern" SUV owners if their car is suitable for offroading in the desert dunes. There have been many new vehicles introduced in the market that are sold as All Wheel Drive vehicles, and the showroom will be filled with banners showing this car drifting through the Arabian deserts, enticing the potential owners and making them believe they can take on any terrain. Within Carnity, we are openminded about accepting SUV's as long as they have sufficient ground clearance, and have proper tow hooks so we can recover the vehicle safely. But after a few drives, some owners might come to realize that this vehicle is not the right match for offroading, and that those banners in the showroom didn't tell the complete story. Below i will highlight a few main factors that might help in new potential offroad vehicle owners make the right decision based on their wishes of type of terrain they'd like to concquer. Ground clearance Ground clearance describes the distance from the ground to the lowest point of the car. In offroading this is important, as a vehicle with ground clearance below 8inch (200mm) might get stuck on boulders, or bushes, or other things you might come across once you go offroad. Less ground clearance also means that as soon as you sink in the sand it will be much harder to recover yourself as your vehicle's underbody will be immediately resting on the sand. Approach and Departure Angles For dune driving/bashing, the approach and departure angles are essential to know and understand. If you approach a dune, you might hit the front bumper if you have insufficient approach angles, and when descending, a too low departure angle will scoop up the sand and might break your rear bumper. Most stock offroad vehicles will have an approach angle of 30-40° and a departure angle of 25-35° - Toyota Landcruiser Prado LWB: Approach angle 30.4°, Departure angle 23.5° - Mitsubishi Pajero LWB: Approach angle 36.6°, Departure angle 25° - Jeep Wrangler SWB: Approach angle 44°, Departure angle 37° - Jeep Wrangler Unlimited: Approach angle 42.2°, Departure angle 32° - Landrover Discovery Sport: Approach angle 25.°, Departure angle 31° - Nissan Xtrail: Approach angle 17.2.°, Departure angle 25° - Nissan Pathfinder R52: Approach angle 14.7.°, Departure angle 22.3° As you can see in above specs, certain SUV's will have issues with low approach and departure angles, with the resulting risk of damaging or breaking the bumpers. Fitting bigger wheels or a lift kit / suspension kit will improve the ground clearance and also the approach and departure angles. Overall Performance The Hp/Ton ratio will help to understand how the vehicle will be able to get through the terrain. For light offroading, most vehicles should be fine as long as your expectations are realistic. Anything below 80hp/Ton will most likely struggle on soft sand, crosstracks, but again it will also depend on the skills of the driver. Types of Offroading in the UAE Hard gravel, desert farm tracks (LIGHT OFFROADING) Any vehicle with AWD or 4x4 should be able to deal with this terrain. You can deflate to 25psi on desert tracks to increase flotation, but be careful with low proflle tyres and the fact that deflation will decrease your ground clearance. Wadi driving, Rocky Roads, Mountains (MEDIUM OFFROADING) In this type of offroading, your ground clearance definitely comes into play, and the approach and departure angles will also make the difference between succesfully crawling over a boulder, or hitting it with your bumper. Low profile tyres are definitely to be avoid in this terrain, as it might puncture or damage the sidewalls and/or rims. Dune driving, Dune Bashing (EXTREME OFFROADING) The most thrilling of the three types , where all above factors such as ground clearance, angles, and performance all play important roles. This is where SUV's will just manage on Newbie levels, but from Fewbie level onwards one or more of the mentioned factors will become a major hurdle (power, angles, or clearance). So whenever you look at changing your vehicle, or when someone asks you "Is my vehicle suitable for offroading ?" you might want to look at above factors and clearly ask him if he wants to drive on farm tracks, or wants to go dunebashing.

Hello people! This is Bhaskar here. It's been just about 7 months that I've settled in Dubai and just last week I've got my driver's license! I am sure you'd be able to relate to the excitement I am having in wanting to get my first car in Dubai! Joined the Carnity forum just a few hours back and thought would be good to get multiple perspectives here! So I am quite a bit of 'want it all' types but after some deliberation have made the list of my criteria - A compact crossover / 4X4, I am not a hardcore off-road enthusiast but my wife & I like going for hikes, try some new stuff. Good infotainment + interior tech + sunroof, like to enjoy the drives! Given that most of my driving would be home to office, a good on-road drive. Some peace of mind - not too old, decent FE, cheap to service, in-warranty, reliability and all that. With this, now I am somewhat all over the place and these are the cars I am considering based on the used cars available on multiple platforms - Kia Sportage AWD GT Line (2018), Jeep Cherokee Trailhawk / Limited (2018 / 19), Jeep Compass Limited (2019). Was considering Honda CRV as well but drove a Honda (Civic) for the past 3 years so just want a change of brand. And yeah, my budget is around 85K tops. After all this context setting, here are some questions that I have: What's your take on the cars I am considering? What other cars do you think I should consider? Have heard Jeep servicing and parts are quite expensive, specially with AF Trading Enterprises. How true is this? Any first hand experiences? Are Cherokee & Compass good on-road? Look forward to the responses! Thanks in advance!

This drive is organized in full compliance with the COVID19 guidelines. We expect every member that joins this drive to go through below information and and strictly follow these guidelines in order not to jeopardize someone's health, and to ensure we can keep organizing these drives safely. MUST READ AND TOTALLY AGREE: COVID19 Precautions MUST READ AND TOTALLY AGREE: BAN POST Two Way Radio Guidelines Every Offroader brings his own radio, programmed to the frequencies described in below advice topic. We will not share spare radios or program your radio on the drive. If you need assistance in programming the radio, post a topic on the Carnity website with your questions and we will help you out. Make sure your radio is fully charged. It will be your only way of communication while driving. Before buying, please carefully read below advice so you are informed properly on which model / cost / shops... No radio = No drive. It is an essential tool and you should make sure you bring it on every drive and learn/practice how to use it. Drive Details Level: Fewbie - (No Newbies) When: 24 Jul 2020, Friday. Meeting time: 5:00 AM (SHARP - Without any exceptions) Meeting Point: Al Lisali Camel Track - https://goo.gl/maps/iwfK5DPGetYifxhA9 Action Plan: Morning drive till about 08:00 – 08:30 AM Type of Car: Any proper 4x4 with front and back tow hooks and 8-10 inches of ground clearance. What to bring along: Loads of water, snacks (for yourself), face mask, rubber gloves, enthusiasm and willingness to learn. Please also make sure you have all the equipment required on board as a Fewbie. THIS IS A COMPRESSOR ONLY DRIVE. IF YOU DO NOT HAVE A COMPRESSOR, PLEASE DO NOT SIGN UP FOR THIS DRIVE. IF YOU ARRIVE AND HAVE NO COMPRESSOR YOU WILL NOT BE ALLOWED TO JOIN THE DRIVE. Approximate finish time: 08:00 – 08.30 AM End Point: Near Last Exit Al Qudra LIMITED SPOTS AVAILABLE: Limited to 12 cars maximum. RSVP will close on Thursday - 9 AM. 1 Lead Marshal + 2 or 1 Senior Members + 10 Members. If the RSVP is full and you wish to join, please mention your name on the drive thread to add on the waiting list Latecomers will be returned back - without ANY EXCEPTIONS. Members without RSVP will be returned back - without ANY EXCEPTIONS. Members that do not confirm the terms of the COVID requirements will be removed from the RSVP list. Please withdraw your RSVP, if you aren't joining, so your spot can be taken by others. Repeated no-show members after RSVP will have their account suspended for a month. Please RSVP on below calendar

With the tremendous increase in the number of COVID cases in the UAE, we all have to be responsible while off-roading. Failing to abide by any single precaution at any time during the drive, will result in an immediate ban from Carnity Off-road Club. ZERO TOLERANCE First offender - 1 Month Ban. Second offender - 3 Month Ban. Third offender - lifetime ban and report to authorities. COVID19 PRECAUTIONS 2.0 All Carnity off-road drives will be LIMITED to driving only: No Socializing and gathering allowed at any time. No break for taking photos, breakfast, smoking, etc. No exchanging of off-road or recovery gears. Wear a mask at all times, while outside your vehicle. For passengers restrictions, follow RTA or NCEMA guidelines. All passengers should be inside the car, at all times. Maintain a minimum of 2-meter social distance at all times. Sanitize your hands and recovery gear after use. PS1. If you and your passenger cannot sit inside your vehicle for 3-4 hours please DO NOT JOIN CARNITY DRIVES. PS2. A Member who has RSVP the drive is RESPONSIBLE and LIABLE for their passenger's compliance. PS3. The above precautions apply to everyone irrespective of their vaccination status or schedule. PS4. You can confidentially submit the photo of any offender by sending an email to [email protected]. How to comply Read the drive post before arriving at the meeting point, so that you know your convoy numbering and radio channel. Arrive at the meeting point and switch on your radio to the pre-set frequency of the drive. Stop your vehicle at least 10-20 meters away from each other. Deflate your tires, while wearing a mask, and then go back inside your car. All briefings will be done on the radio now, so pay full attention to a briefing for your own safety. After the briefing, fall in your convoy position just before the drive starts. While driving if you get stuck, announce on the radio and be inside your car at all times. Trip lead and/or support will guide you on the radio for self-recovery or tow-rope recovery. While there is a stuck or a refusal, everyone else supposed to be inside their car at all times. You can only take a bio-break during the drive, by requesting trip lead permission. Once the drive is over exit out to inflate by maintaining 10-20 meters distance from each other. While inflating, only the driver supposed to be out and with the face mask at all times. After the drive, you can talk on the radio for any feedback, suggestions or help you need.

Hi, Francois here, not a first timer in the desert, been out around big red few times with a Jeep Wrangler and Ford F150. Will join with 2017 Ford F150 Confirming that my vehicle has front and rear tow hooks / eyelets See you Friday

Congratulations @marks

Congratulations @Febin Frederic

Congratulations @Rinelle Sanaani

Being a totally new driver I would suggest get a beater car for 5-10k and get used to driving in UAE first even if you kerb your wheels get a few dings and Dangs it won't be on your new expensive ride. After a few months when you are all set, confident and used to driving here then dispose of your beater and go for your proper main ride. I would never suggest a fresh out of the oven driver to get a new-ish expensive powerful SUV

FJ Cruiser 2020 (Extreme). Driven in the Badayer area a couple of times. Confirming on availability of front and rear eyelets and other off-road kit as stipulated.

Hi @Usman Basit, welcome to the Carnity Offroad Club and appreciate that you have shared the pictures. From the pictures it seems like that the front bumper (considering the black air dam) is having less than 8 inch of ground clearance, which is the minimum requirement. But its better you check it once at your end. Also, please ensure that there are proper tow points at the front and back of the car. Alternatively, you could describe your second car and we can advise accordingly. While its good to have your own gear, for the first offroad drive its not mandatory. There is a topic on where to get all the stuff which I have provided below.

Mitsubishi parts are the most expensive among Japanese brands but it will also outlast accordingly. So if you are fine with limited offroad capability (not great) and happy to accept limited resale value then Yes Montero is a safer bet. For lowering year to 2016 for Prado is actually better to eliminate first 3 years exorbitant resale drop. And if you go in those lines then do research how much they have been changed in tech from 2016 - 2018 model. I bet none, as Toyota is so slow to add new features unless they have tested 1000% in all continents unlike Germans. Btw, Prado are more comfier, spacious than FJC and holds resale value - The Best.

@Gaurav For a Prado to fit into my budget, I would need to go for a 2015 / 16 model and compromise on the tech etc. isn't it? Checked out the FJC as well, a bit too 'crude' for my liking. I know it has a huge fanbase though! I wish the new Defender would be cheaper (wayyyy cheaper!) or the new Bronco would have come earlier! 😁

Thank you @Frederic! I had kind of overlooked Mitsubishi completely, probably because of the brand perception. But I was just checking out the Montero Sport and it does look like a good option!

If it was Grand Cherokee you could off road it with some modifications. Cherokee and Compass are just Fiat with Jeep badge. You can off road them until certain point. Like you can enter the unpaved roads etc. But you cant take it to dune bashing. I remember 3 years ago there was a guy came with shiny Cherokee and in one day he brake all the under body plastic covers. @Gaurav he is actually talking about Cherokee not Grand Cherokee.

Many badging are just for marketing and advertising department. Unless you modify and/or protect under body properly Jeep Grand Cherokee have few week spots. @Brette can share his views as an owner + offroader. For FJC, visibility is not so bad as people scare about, if you are interested, I suggest test drive few and decide. FJC can really tick all boxes + extreme offroading with "Toyota Reliability" (Really a blessing and a big deal) for UAE extreme temperature. For FJC being discontinued model, don't worry too much as all car models once discontinue will have full dealer support with parts and maintenance for 10-15 years easy. If you like to go this route call up Al Futtaim and check what is their official stand on supporting FJC until 2025 or 2030. Because it was a part of an off-road club based on off-road subscription. Moved to general discussion, you should be able to access it now.

Thanks @Frederic. Long time since I was in your convoy, this time Xt(er)ra bigger. Thanks for adding me in

look at this. Its a 2020 full option model. you get all the bells and whistles, i think it will tick all your requirements, best part is the price... straight 40K discount compared to dealer, https://tnydu.biz/DOyqHc

@Chaitanya D i've added you to the drive. You can maybe take care of my big Xterra convoy 😁

Yes Jeeps can be expensive to maintain but you are talking about quite new cars. You can get extended warranty to have peace of mind. Cherokee & Compass only good for on-road. They are not off roaders. For 85.000 budget i would look in to Toyota FJ cruiser if you need something cheap to maintain. It is fully off road capable and at the same time very nice to drive on road. One downsize very bad visibility.

I know right. You somehow needed them after you have kept them away. I think keeping it in the car neatly organized is important. I secured it with a net along with other stuff to prevent it from moving around.

Hi @Frederic I’m not gonna be able to make it this time as something came out at work, I just withdraw my name from the drive, have a good one guys 🚙💨

@topgear thank you for the honourable mention. However I'm not as patient as the people I mentioned. @Xaf you're always hard on yourself and give yourself a lot less credit than what's due for you.

Good Evening Al Lisali Adventurers @Janarthan @Shiju Manuel @RohanH @asifk @Lorenzo Candelpergher @marks @Jolly Abraham @Nizam Deen @J J @Yousef Alimadadi (and the reserves, in case anyone drops out @Mehmet Volga and @Jorge Stepniak Felippe) The countdown continues and there are two more days until we venture into the sand again. As you are preparing for this adventure please take care during the following days to make sure of the following (yes, this is a bit of a moan, but I think you will all understand why: You have all the equipment you should have and it's in good working condition. When you were promoted to Fewbie the communication made very clear the equipment you need to have on board. Additionally, PLEASE, please - make sure you have a flag that will stay on/up/erect during the drive. There's little more frustrating for drivers than to hear "My flag has fallen down/off" and everyone needs to stop while you put it back in place; especially when there were no other reasons to stop. Engine fluids need to be checked every time before you go out. Sorry to say, but it's clear that some people have not been checking this out before leaving for the drive. I am sure I do not have to remind you, IT'S HOT. That means your car will get hot and all the fluids needed to make it run when it's super hot need to be checked. There's absolutely no problem stopping to let cars cool, but if it driven by your having forgotten to top up the oil or coolant, it's not fair on the other drivers. Be on time. We are all waking up at some godforsaken hour to make it to the drive on time. Punctuality has been brilliant recently, which has meant even when the meeting point was not easy to get to we started on time. It's not fair, however, to be the last to arrive and expect everyone to wait for you if they all get there early. And, obviously, the earlier we get moving the better for everyone. Do expect a little driving on a track before we get into the dunes. A pre warning so you are informed. There is a straight and rather long camel racing training track that runs inside the dunes close to Al Lisali. Because we cannot cross this, we will have to take a track under the electricity pylons for a few kilometers before we get into the dunes. It's important you know this so that you don't think that we went the wrong way or will be driving on tracks the whole drive. OK - enough for now. @Rahimdad and myself are looking forward to an excellent drive Friday. There will be an additional briefing note once the drive closes at 9am on Thursday morning where the convoy numbering, responsiblities, radio channel and a few more important details will be shared. Until then, enjoy the rest of your week. See you soon in the sand.

Dear @Kalahari, @Anish S, @Shiju Manuel, @Lorenzo Candelpergher, @Chaitanya D, @Lucky sAm, @Salarios, @Jolly Abraham, @Rinelle Sanaani As described in the drive's presentation post, we are looking to have as long a drive as possible, exploring the western side of the Qudra basin, passing through Solar park, and all the way to Little Swehian. The terrain will be mostly made of long dune ranges, but we will also find some areas of technical dunes. Plus, the more we'll head south, the more the sand will become soft and unstable. This is due to the cordon of dunes finding themselves in between sabkhas, which make the sand travel through these flat areas, and accumulate in the slip-sides and pockets of the dunes to the south of each sabkha. The result may be a drive with refusals and stucks that will become more likely the more we progress toward our goal of reaching Little Swehian. Because of these technical challenges, the length of the convoy (including, at the moment 12 cars), and the duration of the drive (likely to be over 3 hours), I would like to recommend, as in all Fewbie PLUS and above drives, to prepare yourselves in the following area: MENTAL READINESS AND CONCENTRATION - to make sure that all our energies and focus go to the characteristics of the terrain, our driving skills, and the security of the convoy, please be ready to concentrate yourselves on the drive alone. Kindly try to reduce all possible distractions, including bringing along too many passengers. If you bring along somebody, please explain that it will not be possible to converse while driving, or distract the driver from his duties. This recommendation aims to reduce the potential for refusals, stucks, and any other type of incident that may be caused by a distracted driver. AVAILABILITY OF PROPER EQUIPMENT - being at Fewbie Plus and above level means to have fully understood the need to carry the proper equipment in the car. This MUST include to say the least 1) a good shovel, 2) a tow rope (preferably with soft shackles), and 3) a compressor. Proper equipment also incudes a very important car accessory: tested, robust, tow hooks in good conditions. I will take care to verify the availability of all of the above equipment for all attendees, and will be forced to refuse participation for those who do not carry these essential items. COMMUNICATIONS SKILLS - there are two elements to our ability to communicate in the desert. The technical aspect demands that 1) your radios are fully charged, 2) that each driver always identifies himself when speaking, so to allow the convoy to react speedily to any predicament, and 3) that all respond when questions or instructions are directed at them, in order to acknowledge that all is clear and understood. The psychological aspect has to do with the willingness to communicate. Please, do not be afraid or ashamed to inform the convoy leader that one may not feel like making some maneuver, taking a seemingly risky approach, or doing anything beyond one's perceived skills, or physical conditions. When no communication of this kind takes place, the leader and the rest of the convoy will assume that all is well, and will not be able to address any concern of second-thoughts a driver may have. Kindly acknowledge the above information, so that we may look forward to a challenging, yet pleasant drive. Luckily, we'll have @Frederic and @Wrangeld assisting us on the drive, and bringing their expertise and flair to an already "star studded" convoy. See you all Friday (convoy order and radio channel will be published on Thursday evening). Dear @asifk, well noted. Sorry you will not be able to join. Hope to see you soon.

Hi @Taha Elghuel i have added you to the drive. See you on Friday !

Congrats...😀

@Gaurav if there are newbie drivers willing to join on waitlist, you can remove my RSVP. Joining this as other morning fewbie drive is full

Just to provide an update, I talked to a few shops and they quoted me ridiculous amounts to run the wires from the battery to the trunk, from 500 to 1,000 AED. So I went to Dragon mart, got thick electrical wires for 100 AED, and found a shop in Satwa to run the wires under the cabin floorboard for 100 AED along with an on-off switch and two fuses attached to the wires. So in total, paid 200 AED, and now have a convenient and quick inflation process. The yellow/blue wires behind the compressor are from the battery, the black hose in the bottom left is the inflation hose, the black wire in the top left is for the trailer. By the way, the Y62 honks its horn automatically as soon as it's inflated to 35PSI, through its Tyre pressure control system (TPCS), so no need to constantly check the pressure!

Just so the sheepers don't feel left out OOPS!

Thanks @Srikumar for your prompt reply. The second car is a range rover sport which i think would be more appropriate. Will leave the gear for the second time.

thank you @Gaurav

@Vanessa8580 has G015 on her Pajero since 6 months. So far pretty happy. It’s hard to compare because my G012 are 16 inch and her G015 are 18inch, but the G015 looks a little bit more sturdy/less flexible. https://monotukuru.com/yokohama-geolandar-a-t-g015-vs-geolandar-a-t-s-g012/ @Wrangeld description on Page2 gives same info.

Good Morning Al Lisali Adventurers @Janarthan @Shiju Manuel @RohanH @asifk @Lorenzo Candelpergher @marks @Jolly Abraham @Nizam Deen @J J @Yousef Alimadadi (and the reserves, in case anyone drops out @Mehmet Volga and @Jorge Stepniak Felippe) Thanks for signing up for the Friday morning drive from Al Lisali to Al Qudra. For most of you this will be quite new territory, so a few things to prepare for mentally in advance of the drive. There are tricky technical dunes we need to pass to get into the wide, flowing dunes that allow us to run from Al Lisali: We have a morning drive, so hopefully the sand will be a little less forgiving, but you will need to be on your game straight from the get go. Unlike many drives where we can ease in slowly to the more difficult dunes, we have the most challenging technical bit straight away. Technical dunes while not as much fun, are important to improve your drive skills. The better you can control your vehicle through the smaller dunes where angles are all important, the better - because this really helps you to understand where the front and back of your car (and the approach angles etc., ) are. Why? Because once you know this, you can understand if a different approach route makes more sense when you have a longer vehicle to avoid cresting or catching a bumper on the way in or out. Once through the technical stuff, the route takes us through some wonderful swooping wide dunes where we will be able to, hopefully, move at speed. Our newest Fewbies on the drive will find this a big difference from Newbie drives, those with a bit more experience and approaching Fewbie+ will enjoy the chance to really attack some of these dunes an start to undersrtand the potential of the vehicle. Come with a full tank of gas! The intention, time permitting is to cover a lot of ground - more than we normally cover when in Qudra or Sharjah. It would really be a shame if someone starts to have range anxiety. Look out for more updates during the week, and as ever, if there are quesitons, please feel free to ask. If anyone has to drop out for any reason, there are reserves waiting in the wings, eager to replace you. Convoy roles will be announced later in the week for 2nd Lead and Sweep. We will be joined by Carnity's own Superman @Rahimdad on the drive to keep us all in order. Have a great week. See you soon in the sand.

Shall do @Mehmet Volga Noted. Please keep looking in.

Congratulations @marks Well done.