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That part is true, even with my almost 20 years experience with 10 of those in the professional field I really dont have the patience or the will power to do what these two do Last time I went out with RD was on a newbie drive and we spent almost 3hrs trying to cross a patch less than 300 mtrs long. I could see the road from where we we standing. And by the time he managed to drag everyone clear it was dark for an hour or so already. I felt many times to screw it and just call it quits and drive out in my own. If I was leading that convoy those guys probably would be still stuck there today! Guess just getting old and grumpy with low tolerance. Maybe spent too many days out in the desert under the sun. That would explain my lack of hair in my chrome dome though!

Thank you @shadow79 for your kind words and warm feelings. I am in tears and I am sure once @Gaurav bhai sees this he will be in tears also. It is our greatest pleasure to be around such wonderful people, we are truly blessed by God Almighty to have such a beautiful family away from our family.

no matter who or what type of big shots exist out there and we all know for sure there are...but one thing is for sure for us guys here at carnity. @Gaurav bhai and @Rahimdad bhai sacrificing their time and effort on us. mentoring us and leading and sometimes being surprised as us as well.spoiling us with care and love and sometimes even scolding us like big brothers (especially me) really i have yet not seen such place or such teachers and friends .its just a sweet connection here we all share and i hope it to be ever lasting... my hats off to you both and everyone here at carnity....

@Sidshk good opportunity... don't miss it..

@Sidshk, this is not going to be for newbie, so if you are a first timer than I am afraid this trip is not for you. As for the vehicle we have quite a few Pajeros' on our drives and they are very capable. If it is your first time and you do not mind taking a passenger seat than you are most welcome to join one of us to experience it first hand. We are having regular weekly trips and you can keep checking in for the next newbie drive that will be good to get you started.

Hi I like to join but not sure if my 4 x 4 will work I have PAJ 2008 with factory setup Is it possible to join ????

Rahimbhai, I'm not sure yet. Might be traveling for the weekend. I'll join in for sure if I'm not. Also, I'll check with the others, but Adnan is in London this week so he won't be joining.

I cant resist sand and Saleem idea. log me in please. Regards Basel

@desertdude with all our experiences combined @Gaurav bhai and me are also learning some new way of doing things. You are most welcome to join and I am sure if you don't learn from us, we can always learn from your vast experience. If only people here knew you through the drives we have than they would forget @Gaurav bhai and me and would be singing praises for you.