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Hi @Chaitanya D I will give this a go and say a few basics, from my perspective. Seniors will corrrect/build on this no doubt. Each recovery is unique. You need to look first at the situation before you can make the decision. Safety is paramount. When you look at a stuck the first thought is not get the car out it is how can we make sure that this problem is resolved safely. Gravity. Let gravity do it's work. If you forward heavy, try to recover forwards, backwards heavy, backwards. Sand build up. On a side slope the risk you face is that sand built up on the wheels is a challenge. You want to be sure that it does not stop the car moving or run the risk of a roll over. Dig or tug #1? T A tug is not always the quickest way out, especially in soft sand - remember, the tugging car needs to build up momentum and not get stuck itself. Having said that a tug may help gravity do its job quicker. Dig or tug #2? If you look at the situation and you feel that moving sand from the wheels will get some movement, that might be the best solution for that moment. Horizontal situation. More challenging because you need to decide to move forward or backwards. The thing you for sure want to avoid is the car rolling over, so you have to be very careful in the decisions around where sand is displaced and why. Bottom line: Great to try and think this through for when you might be faced with the problem, but you really have to treat each situauton as a unique stuck.

Brilliant topic @Chaitanya D and very well displayed your concerns with images and drawing. Everyone has almost hit the nail on the head with their collective inputs and they all are correct too. Small add-on from my side is whenever we have side slope stuck, if you dig a channel front or behind (as displayed in pic below in red color) you can accelerate the recovery process. The core idea for this red colored channel is to drop the car wheel with a tiny extra movement after the initial movement and when this drop happen, the gravity will do the rest as you successful manage to shake the 2 ton weight. 90% side stuck you can self recover with below techniques and only 10% will be needing controlled tow-rope tug or winch (much better) in such scenarios. Such controlled tow-rope stuck we teach at advance and above levels. Idea is to force vehicle to point down in any direction. Though steering control front wheel so it will be relatively easy to steer down from 100% horizontal (imaginary) situation. As soon as that happen you will follow the steps in scenario 3 to get them out. Easy backward recovery Easy front recovery

The more I have the pleasure of interacting with the Carnity team, the more I understand the rationale behind its name: Carnity = Car Community. There is a genuine inclination to support eachother, and help eachother learn and grow, without any prejudice. The Carnity team has done such an incredible job of creating this culture, you can easily feel the sense of camaraderie and kindness influencing even the new members. I was raised in Canada so I’m accustomed to a multicultural and diversified community, but it’s absolutely refreshing to see a microcosm of it within Carnity. On my first Carnity drive, I remember being a bit hesitant when I first got out of the car to introduce myself, but something astonishing happened which I’ll never forget. I was shaking hands and saying hello, when all of a sudden@Rahimdad came up and gave me a totally unexpected but warm hug, like we’d known eachother for years. I was shocked! And totally disarmed. But I knew from that point on exactly what type of club is being run here.

From my information; 1- You need to shovel under the tires to create room for car to came out itself. After the car move you can understand either it will go forward or backward. Than you will move accordingly and make the very gentle tug if needed. 2- From the position it is clear that car needs to reverse down. You need to clear the sand under the tires so car can reverse back. You can make very gentle tug from the position that Cruiser stays if only really needed. 3- From the position it is clear that car needs to move forward down. You need to clear the sand under the tires so car can move forward. You can make very gentle tug from the mirror position that Cruiser stays if only really needed.

A comparison of various compressors. Interesting read. 4WD169-036-054-FEATURE-air_2_(1).pdf

Yes, I agree each situation here is different. But wanted to emulate the scenarios so that we are better informed when actually faced with a similar situation. Theory before the practicals🤣 Forward or backward? to minimise the chances of rollover which is not a very comfortable situation.Going front /Back - will reduced the chance of roll over?

Agree - for scenario 2 and 3 gravity will be your recovery assistant, but aim is to go down straight. Scenario 1: I guess preference will be forward, with some digging to allow you to use gravity. Using a rope I think will be tricky, giving the sudden movement? Just my 5c.

Wow excellent topic. As do not panic applies to the drivers the same applies to the trip lead and Marshals. Keep cool head. It does not matter if you can recover in 5 minutes or 2 hours as long as you come up with the perfect plan. Your plan might seem perfect to you with your experiences. But better to discuss with other seniors and get their point of view. Don't be me, in other words don't be stubborn. With years of experience around 3 years back we broke 3 tow ropes and spent 2 hours to be taught a lesson by the UAE nationals we think are very rough with their recoveries. Always keep yourself open to learn. Just my suggestion as everybody else has covered all points.

I just bought this one today. Looking forward to trying it out this weekend!

Thank you @Emmanuel for your efforts and support to everyone in the convoy with different level backgrounds, its not an easy task when we think about it to advise and guide other drivers while you driving and while you trying to enjoy your self. Thank you for the advice. I appreciate every advice, comment and guidance this is how we support each other and this how we learn and improve. The reason I increased the RPM was that the car started to move out but i miscalculated the moment. I should have been more patient but as you said i wanted to earn time. Everyone did very well and it was amazing seeing some of the drivers i knew from previous drives improved and developed thier driving techniques in very short time. Its a good practice to lesson to more experienced people to learn and get mentored no shame to ask for help or support without this practice it will take us very long time to learn every step the hard way. I saw passion, enthusiasm and respect in our Friday drive from all members. Thanks to @Kalahari being an amazing second lead and for sharing the extra wooden board it was needed and tested unfortunately but indeed it came in perfect fit with my 2 tons jack. Thank you @Xaf you handled convoy from the Middle with @Emmanuel with constant updates and communication through the walkie talkie conveying the exact situation of the convoy from the first to the last minute of the drive and I completely understood your situation when you wanted to help, my self and @Tbone we just saw your enthusiasm to help we didn't feel bad at the end of the day we all wanted the same thing. But the decision between me and @Tbone was based on my car weight versus his car weight and power and i was trying to avoid him getting stuck with me. But you had it all under control it was a perfect recovery smooth and easy. @Brette it was a real pleasure seeing you handling each situation with none stop support to each one needed it. @Febin Frederic @Rinelle Sanaani @Najeeb Mohammed well done what an amazing 👏 start in the intermediate level it will get more exciting and more serious action will follow be patient and becareful. @Colin Jordan @Tbone was a pleasure driving with you second time in a row great support and help to the team. I would like to quote @Xaf when he mentioned: " In general to all drivers, try to think as a group. If the convoy is not moving in front of you and the cars are coming from behind, try to imagine if there will be enough space for them. If space is available, move yourself, if not, please announce it on the radio so they will wait until the convoy is moving again. In these high dunes we often have no vision what is happening in front of us. " As of my position at the end of the convoy i felt and I wanted to address the same point as it is very important, the more we reach higher levels the more we learn to be more connected as one team imagine each one of us is a piece of a chain, if one of us got in a refusal situation or got stuck we all have to deal with the situation and stop the convoy. Hence if we think more about the cars behind us in the convoy specially once we drive through a tricky dune or difficult route we have to keep in mind that other members might not be able to have enough space to maneuver the situation that could lead to one of two options either the other driver will get stuck or might hit the last car as he/she doesn't have enough space to maneuver which we all don't want to experience in the Middle of the desert specially in the hot summer. Once again thank you all, I hope i didn't forget to mention anyone from our Friday drive, i am looking forward to seeing you all soon in the sand.

The latest models of stem removal tools are magnetic, so the stem won’t fly out easily. Even then we always keep some spare stems and valves in the car.

Buy 12 valves for 5 dhs. Initially you will loose, but after 3 or 4 failed attempt, you will stop loosing it. I hardly loose any now, like once in a year or so but love the 20-30 sec max air down.

Dear All ( especially @Rahimdad, @Gaurav, @Srikumar, @Frederic, @Emmanuel, @Asif Hussain, @Wrangeld , @Ale Vallecchi) I would like to know the correct method for self recovery/assisted recovery when stuck on a side slope. While doing side sloping on extremely soft sand one tends to get stuck on a slope in one of the three positions as depicted in the pictures below - Line diagrams of cars. Kindly opine How to recover in the Following situations - when shovelling /tug would be needed? 1. Stuck with car being horizontal - (MOST TRICKY and DEBATABLE ?) 2. Stuck with Car front pointing Up 3. Stuck with Car front pointing down

Yeah I asked about that - the guy printed, stamped and signed a receipt and then took a copy for the shop. I asked about the 5-year warranty and what I should do if I had any issues within that time and he told me I could bring it back to the shop. I checked the warranty on the website and couldn't see anything that might exclude purchase here. Tbh I was sold as soon as I saw him demo it on my Pajero tires using the remote control... I'm a sucker for gadgets 😝!! https://www.meanmother.com.au/images/MMACA3_MMACM3_warranty_2018.pdf

@topgear yep. Stem removal is faster, a little riskier perhaps, but it will please the people you drive with no end. As Gaurav says, once you get the hang of it, it's easier and frankly as accurate as anything else. You'll learn just how many seconds you need to deflate to your chosen pressure, and if you overshoot you can always reinflate. BTW I was given a very epxensive set of pressure caps like you showed. Tried using them once and that was enough for me. It takes so long to set up and then if something goes wrong, like you unscrew the wrong piece when removing, you have to set them up again. Now ... 10 seconds per wheel and I am done.

Part of the skill with ropes is learning how to avoid that sudden pull ... you're 100% right in saying that it should be avoided on a side slope. If someone is in a nasty pocket, a yank might be the only option, but on a side slope with the risk of roll over ... I am not sure I would do that.

Please add my dear friend @Mohamed Seidam from Palestine ( No 39). He has just bought a new X , and now he will be driving carefree. Great to be among you all, learning from eachother and helping.

@Salarios thank you for your kind words. It's such a touching moment when people can see the genuine intent and value of a community. Unfortunately Covid19 has my arms tied behind my back. Still love to embrace like minded people and feed them my Aloo Paratha and chai.

I do the same, @GauravThanks, I have 5 pcs spare as a backup but i never lose it. it is easy and really fast.

What @Frederic was referring is that, you can remove the stem from your tyre vaulve to let the air out and you can keep a count as a reference to stop the leak by fixing your stem back on the valve to get your desired tyre pressure. This is a method used by many offroader's. Though I personally use autoplus tyre deflator which is not as fast as the stem removal tool but saves the pain when you need to search around when your stem flies off. It's like you use the technique which suits you better.

Dear @Anish S, @Salarios, @Nivin, @Pancho, and @E.C. TAN. Thank you very much for joining the drive, so far. Following my earlier post, just a few more info about Friday's drive. The convoy will be relatively short, with the presence of @Wrangeld in support: both factors are good, as the length of the convoy should allow us to keep a good pace, and the presence of Richard will guarantee that any situation we'll encounter will be managed smoothly and efficiently. Depending on how well we progress through the drive, as promised, we may either spend more time practicing different techniques, or prolong the drive on the other side of the tarmac road, east of our location, toward the Love Lakes. Just one important word of caution. At Fewbie level, all of us are expected to carry the necessary off-roading tools for this rank: a good shovel, a recovery rope (better if with soft shackles), a compressor (even though the Adnoc gas station will be near enough to our exit). Most importantly, please make sure your tow holds/hooks are in good conditions, and available both at the front and back of your cars. We have recently had situations where the tow holds were either in poor conditions (with consequent car damages) or absent/not reachable (which have required the driver to exit the drive). The convoy order will be announced, as usual, on Thursday. With this last fact, I wish you a good end of the week, and look forward to seeing you on Eid's Friday.

Dear fellow desert wanderers @Rinelle Sanaani, @Tbone, @Chaitanya D, @Kalahari, @Febin Frederic. Just a few pills to build the expectation around this drive. As some of you have already seen, the area known unofficially as Little Sweihan offers a very intriguing terrain. Well south of Solar Park, on the way toward the Abu Dhabi border, it owes its characteristics to the location between two rather large sabkhas. The wind sweeping these flat expanses of land, with very little and very low vegetation, makes fresh and soft sand accumulate in and around some more consolidated dunes. The formations here, therefore, are made of rather close cordons of long dunes, relatively high and sharp, with narrow "corridors" between each cordon, where, in the lowest places, the soft sand is deposited, before being blown away toward the next sabkha. We will approach our playground with the help of a dirt road, running from the solar panels toward the south, as far as the Abu Dhabi border. Where Little Sweihan begins we'll detour, and enter the dunes, to ride its "canyons", practicing rather sharp side sloping, and occasional criss-crossings. We will try to drive all 3 of the area's roughly triangular sides, taking care to use the dune's layout to our advantage. The sudden ups and downs, and the presence of the soft sand pockets, will require good control of the cars' momentum and pace. We will then exit on any of the sabkhas running parallel to Little Swehian, to make our way back toward Solar Park. Hoping to have wet your appetite, I look forward to seeing you on Saturday at 4:00PM. Have a great Eid.

I'm with Wrangeld. I also was given a set of deflators, the amount of faffing and the time it takes is ridiculous! Nothing beats this, the cheapest, simplest and fastest tool hands down. https://www.amazon.ae/Garneck-السيارات-الشاحنات-الأساسي-الإطارات،/dp/B084RJH4SC/ref=asc_df_B084RJH4SC/?tag=googleshopp09-21&linkCode=df0&hvadid=406722604018&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=15111790251819978835&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=1000011&hvtargid=pla-920112005471&psc=1

Didn't know it can be operated with a remote control.

@Gaurav, yes I wish to join

Hi Syed if I remember correctly I wasn’t able to put it into 4Lo, but played a bit with the clutch and went forward and backward until I got a track and drove out. This is doable with a little TJ but definitely not with a Hummer H2.

You can fit a smaller pulley and shorter belt if you want to make it spin faster. Done it with superchargers before to get more power. There are custom pulley makers who can do it or anyone who has a lathe should be able to machine one from a piece of billet. Could maybe even do some good old fashioned jugad and find something in scrap and drill it out to fit. Bear in mind that it’s connected to your water pump so you don’t want to go too crazy with a mega tiny one but I don’t see the harm in going a little bit smaller. If you could be bothered, the maths behind it would be pretty easy to work out in relation to pulley size and rotational speed.

Dear @Najeeb Mohammed. You can decide to withdraw at any time. You can wait until you are sure, or just let me know if you can make it even last minute. Do not worry (the drive will remain open). Thanks a lot, and still hope to see you.

Sorry @RohanH just to add. If the car starts heating up just little extra, like you said 55% don't switch off the engine. Just open the bonnet and spray water on radiator to give engine some fresh air to help it cool.

If leak in hose you can get new hose from Dragon Mart for AED 60.

If fan clutch is not engaging when 70% heat gauge rises, that means fan clutch is surely not working. Technically there is no way to 100% test fan clutch getting fully engaged at high temperature, other than this absence of loud gushing noise. So it's time to either change the fan clutch (expensive route), or make it direct (cheaper route) as 9 months out of 12 months are hot in Dubai. Also its your off-road vehicle that will have better engine cooling with loss of 2-5 hp and few ml of extra petrol. Example: full tank mileage of 325 km might become 320 km, if you are keeping a precise log. I'm running direct clutch fan since 5 years and my exhaust makes more noise on road and highway than direct clutch fan. If I have an option to double my clutch fan speed by spending extra money, ill do that too.

Many congrats. You deserve it very well.

Congratulations brother. Well deserved promotion. Stay safe and hope to see you on the next drive.

It is a good price for TJM compressor and long warranty period...will definitely allow for good resale if you have 5 years warranty.

@Tbone aha! thanks....I think I will stick with tire deflator as I have concern that the stem may go missing 😅

A good air compressor is as important as tyre, especially in the middle of desert when you have a pop out . I am using the DM camel one now, but definitely planning to buy a proper branded one soon. Something or the other keeps breaking/burning/leaking with the DM compressors - hose leak, fuse bust, wiring problems, switch issues. Probably in total one ends up spending the same amount of money keeping the DM one working in the long run.

Is this the quick deflator ? @Fredericsorry for the noob question. You’ll need to replace the stem after deflation ? Is it a difficult process for technical noob ? 😅

https://www.instagram.com/arb4x4uae/ Please check this profile for the ARB twin compressor. its from where I got mine, however installation was from a different garage.

Hi Guys, just read thru all the above comments as im currently looking for a compressor myself as my dragon mart compressor seized up and stopped working due to a leak in the hose. So i checked the below special is this a good unit and i see they say 160LPM which is almost the same as the ARB dual piston if i have my facts right. so this has a 5 year warranty and its going for AED700 is this a good price? or would you rather take a chance with the dragon mart dual piston?

With the tremendous increase in the number of COVID cases in the UAE, we all have to be responsible while off-roading. Failing to abide by any single precaution at any time during the drive, will result in an immediate ban from Carnity Off-road Club. ZERO TOLERANCE First offender - 1 Month Ban. Second offender - 3 Month Ban. Third offender - lifetime ban and report to authorities. COVID19 PRECAUTIONS 2.0 All Carnity off-road drives will be LIMITED to driving only: No Socializing and gathering allowed at any time. No break for taking photos, breakfast, smoking, etc. No exchanging of off-road or recovery gears. Wear a mask at all times, while outside your vehicle. For passengers restrictions, follow RTA or NCEMA guidelines. All passengers should be inside the car, at all times. Maintain a minimum of 2-meter social distance at all times. Sanitize your hands and recovery gear after use. PS1. If you and your passenger cannot sit inside your vehicle for 3-4 hours please DO NOT JOIN CARNITY DRIVES. PS2. A Member who has RSVP the drive is RESPONSIBLE and LIABLE for their passenger's compliance. PS3. The above precautions apply to everyone irrespective of their vaccination status or schedule. PS4. You can confidentially submit the photo of any offender by sending an email to [email protected]. How to comply Read the drive post before arriving at the meeting point, so that you know your convoy numbering and radio channel. Arrive at the meeting point and switch on your radio to the pre-set frequency of the drive. Stop your vehicle at least 10-20 meters away from each other. Deflate your tires, while wearing a mask, and then go back inside your car. All briefings will be done on the radio now, so pay full attention to a briefing for your own safety. After the briefing, fall in your convoy position just before the drive starts. While driving if you get stuck, announce on the radio and be inside your car at all times. Trip lead and/or support will guide you on the radio for self-recovery or tow-rope recovery. While there is a stuck or a refusal, everyone else supposed to be inside their car at all times. You can only take a bio-break during the drive, by requesting trip lead permission. Once the drive is over exit out to inflate by maintaining 10-20 meters distance from each other. While inflating, only the driver supposed to be out and with the face mask at all times. After the drive, you can talk on the radio for any feedback, suggestions or help you need.

Guys, I have similar issues but not to this extent where it immediately heats in traffic. Never happened like this. But temp increased above 50% for 4 to 5 times in last 1 year only when car is ideal in extreme outside heat. In fact last week after little heating may be 55% I switched off the car and went home came back in 5 mins and then I saw heat gauge was on almost at 70%. As per the above threads, I checked 1. Fluid levels are ok 2. When engine is off- Fan hardly rotates when tried to push it by hand. It move like max to max quarter to half rotation. 3. After engine switched off- Fan stops immediately. 4. Tried to check before starting the car in morning if I could see some leak at both sides of fan clutch. No leak,I guess. 5. Timing belt including water pump kit, thermostat kit, radiator hose ( almost all together 19 parts) changed before 20 K Kms in Al Habtoor agency. 6. Whenever I had the heat gauge increased more than 50% , I never observed the loud noise, in fact engine noise remains same. Car model ,Pajero 2013, 3.8 ltr, 122,000 kms run as of now In this case what should be the first thing to diagnose. Radiator or fan clutch? In case of radiator, will cleaning and flushing help?

it consist of cap nut and securing ring adjust desire pressure with the help of cap nut (loosing of capnut reduce the pressure setting and tighting of capnut increase pressure , ) one required pressure is adjusted lock cap nut with securing ring .setting only need to be done first time. a set of 4 pcs comes in a packet, I adjusted 1.14kg 2.10kg 3. 30 kg 4. 35 kg all marked and painted with different colors for ease of use no attendace required during deflating @topgear I purchase from carefore mall of emirates for below 50 aed for a set of 4pcs

My jeep gets cleaned by the garage whenever it goes for a service. Other than that ... never. Having said that, it's a Jeep, so that could be a weekly wash some times 😂 Personally, I am a believer in the theory that the most important bits of the car to clean and maintain are the insides (mechanically). Your car is highly unlikely to suffer from rust here and sand is not as damaging to the vehicle as the salt deposits with which they spray the roads in Europe. As you have an FJ you probably drive with the airco on and windows closed - so the dust inside your car is probably just that and I can imagine you would like to clear it out from time to time. Again, the garage does vacuum the car when it is serviced but frankly a week out in the dunes and they might as well not have bothered. It's a big advantage that the car is not my daily driver. If it was, I would probably be cleaning it every two to three weeks (which sadly and strangely is just about the regularity it's been in the garage recently ...)

Private owner/sellers are always recommended against the dealers, as most car dealers always have some extra cooking behind the scene to hide or eliminate bad traces or incomplete service history. For buying vehicle, you should have little bit of patience and test out few cars to really compare apple to apple, but for surely this little efforts will pay you off multi-fold in the future. If you are in super rush, buy from reputed dealers (which will be tad expensive) and make sure to insist to see the service history photos first before visiting them. As dealers will always nod head for service history but only 10% cars will have "GENUINE" service history. So don't waste your time with 90% dealers who just say yes to service history and unable to show you the proof. For service history, if they can show you the breakdown, then that's highly preferable, but usually dealer stamp on service book is more than enough for initial visit. If you are serious in buying then you can ask them to fetch a detailed report from dealer to verify the actual past of that car. And run away from cars that has Enoc / Emarat / Adnoc service stickers as oil change is not a service history. And if owner was cutting corner for such expense then many other aspects must have been ignored too. And that defer maintenance will be very expensive and potentially unsafe for you as a new buyer.