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* Mitsubishi Pajero 2019 LWB lifted 2.5" and skid plates at front and back. Bumper trimmed for better ground clearance and Flag Mount installed * Have done 5 drives with different groups * Tow hooks in good condition and usable * Have air compressor, Kinetic Recovery rope, Shackles, Shovel, Flag, Radio

It’s surprising to see so little signups for this newbie drive as this is the most exciting area for off-road not too far from Dubai... Gents, come on, it’s Sweihan !

For search and rescue in desert when stranded or need help, NSRC UAE app available in android and iOS https://www.nsrc.gov.ae/en/home.aspx More information in media https://m.khaleejtimes.com/uae/abu-dhabi/stranded-in-uae-desert-rescue-chopper-is-a-button-away

@Srikumar Many thanks for your welcome, herewith the details: i drive a Toyota fortuner which have front and rear towing points I did the desert driving course as well as I drove a few times offroad Greet Remco

Wow @Hariharan well prepared. Looking forward to driving with you.

Once you are able to buy one of the regular Rolls Royce Bentleys Lambos, Ferraris and other exotics anything above is just showing off look how much more money I have to waste. Look you cheap peasent I paid half a million more for the Ultra Sport Super Special GT XWB MZD FEK ASS DIK 1 of 20 version ( later which 2000 more will be made due to demand ) which weighs 50 grams less by using super rare ultra light metal harvested from crashed meteorites from the bottom of the Mariana trench for the door handles and now it goes from 0 to 100 in 0.005th of a second faster than the regular version. Not to mention the killing the car manufacturers make by selling these to rich idiots

Why so cheap? Must have been in an accident

Hi Frederic Thanks, looking forward to Friday. Jeep Grand Cherokee 2013. Never driven in the desert no. Yes, 2 in front and 1 in the back.

Closest Gas station to meeting point (please take into account the time you need to fill up your tank so that you reach meeting point on time 😘) ADNOC Sweihan: https://goo.gl/maps/FCfB4iLJLrMi2fKt9

Good share, but I will never recommend to go out to desert alone. If you're stuck in an area without mobile coverage your app will not work.

Welcome to Carnity @Hariharan Please provide us with the following information: Please share your vehicle details below Prior off-road experience (Yes/No) Confirm front and rear tow hooks in good condition and usable

I totally agree on every word you said as I happen to have the same impression for Baofeng up until last year. BUT SADLY all the historic user of Baofeng in Carnity off-road club was a classical example to try WEIRD positioning of hiding the mic, handset, hands free 3 million kms away and then speak from a tunnel on a upside down face. Technically speaking it's nothing to do with Baofeng, if user does not or don't want to understand how basic radio works it's a user issue and not a brand issue.

@andy_macdxb I drive off-road regularly with Carnity in my nativa. I am currently in fewbie level and I enjoy the ride very well. I haven’t done any extreme rides or huge dune bashing yet but our senior member @Rahimdad tried couple of times in Maliha play area and he found nativa is capable off roader.

Thanks, Ford Explorer 2017 4WD Basic Desert Driving Course from EDI Available at the back. i will arrange front hook before the event.

@MUHAMMAD Kashif RAZZAQ Welcome to Carnity ! Thanks for introducing yourself. See you on Friday ! Welcome to Carnity @Theunis Please provide us the following information: * Which car 4x4 are you driving ? * Any prior offroad experience ? * Are the towhooks on the front and back available and in good condition ?

@Frederic Thanks for the response.

Hence always carry a Etisalat sim with you 95% of the UAE is covered. Save for some western border area with Saudi towards Arad

Yes that's why we want to learn the correct methods of desert driving from you all Additionally it is useful in case if someone has a medical emergency

@Michael sammy - Thanks for this. I finally got it from here. I opted for a delivery option, as I was not sure on going to Dragon Mart.

1. Toyota FJ cruiser 2. Yes 3. Very little - actually only once before

Nativa is similar to the Fortuner 2.7 Little bit underpowered, but in the right hands they can go a long way. @Rizwanm2 has one and manages very well.

Thanks all

Hi Szymon, i will be doing the Newbie Al Qudra Drive. Yes you can collect your radio anytime. Plz text me on 056 504 2632

@Frederic it may be a little off-topic but what drive do you go to this weekend? If it's not the fewbie in Abu Dhabi can I meet you tommorow to collect my radio?

I got a CB radio instead, I don't have to worry about my battery running out, there is plenty of options in Amazon US (dont bother on amazon.ae).

My mistake it's the FJ CRUISER

I will have too many questions for sure so thank you for your support!! Too excited for this friday!!

@Nacho no question is stupid. So go ahead and ask all you want. We love people who are willing to ask and learn.

Maliha to Fossil Rock is the most beautiful and scenic desert in Sharjah offering perfect learning opportunity for absolute newbies for their first time desert driving thrilling experience. If you have already driven in sand before then you can learn more from experts having decades of offroading experience in the UAE. This area offers a good mix of playable long set of dunes and broad ridge to test your off-road control. Drive is open for all 4x4/4WD/SUV/AWD vehicle having 8-10 inches of ground clearance and front and rear tow hooks. You can bring your family, friends and kids, but if you are absolute new to sand offroading it is better to drive alone first to learn offroading without any distractions. Drive will start with detail briefing, followed by 2-3 hours of driving in sand dunes and then followed by a break for refreshments over a feedback and assessment session for each offroader. What you'll learn: Introduction to off-roading Desert driving basics and etiquette Desert driving tips, techniques, myth and best practices Off-road and safety gear familiarization and recovery procedures Vehicle orientation, risk analysis, deflation and outdoor safety advice First time with Carnity Off-road Club: Please share your vehicle details below Prior off-road experience (Yes/No) Confirm front and rear tow hooks Level: Absolute Newbie, Newbies and above (All level) When: 6 Mar 2020 Meeting time: 1:00 PM (SHARP - Without any exceptions) Meeting Point: Mahafiz Mosque https://goo.gl/maps/4YNVM3xVHXnqtpPr7 Type of Car: Any proper 4x4 with front and back tow hooks and 8-10 inches of ground clearance. What to bring along: Loads of water, snacks, smiles, stories, enthusiasm and willingness to learn. Approximate finish time: 6:00 PM End Point: ADNOC Service Station - https://goo.gl/maps/QGPXdFJHC9Z629JY8 Friday Prayer Mosque: Mahafiz Mosque https://goo.gl/maps/4YNVM3xVHXnqtpPr7 MUST READ: First off-road drive checklist Off Road Driving - Roles & Responsibilities Off road Driving Etiquette's Off-road Convoy Rules Off roading - Everything you need to know Please RSVP on the below calendar:

Before I started with you guys, I’d never heard about Sweihan before. Might also count for the other newbies.

Geneva Motor show was cancelled, so the engineers that just spent their annual budget on a toy need to do something to show for it. Normally, they woudl take it to Geneva, have everyone ooh and ahh and fie years later you get a watered down version of the beautiful vehicle they created. This year ... no show (literally), so they needed to put it out in Social and other media. Is it beautiful? Based on the last Bentleys it's getting better. Is it worth the price of a really nice home, no. But as I have said before, you can't drive a house, but you can sleep in a car.

HI, Just join this club. I am interested to attend the event "Morning Newbie Desert Drive - Al Qudra (Dubai) - 6 Mar 2020". I am driving Ford Explorer 2017. I have done the basic desert driving course with EDI.

@Pickey Singh, do you copy.....?

As far as your colleague Santa FE has 8-10 inches of ground clearance along with front and back tow hooks, he will be fine to join any newbie drives.

Mitsubishi NATIVA (?)

Hey, who do you call an idiot

Thanks for this post! I had a few close shaves already in the 7-lane roads of Dubai. After reading this yesterday, I have reset my side-view mirrors and tested them on my way home last night. For sure it makes a massive difference, but it does need some time to get used to (especially since it limits the distance in the rear that you can observe - which should be OK if you use the rear-view mirror more often).

@Gordon Grimmond there are 3 Newbie drives this weekend. So RSVP for the one you prefer. Hope your front and rear tow points are in good condition

Was supposed to fly TRV - DXB - LAX for a trade show, but when I arrived in DXB this morning they told us the trade show had been cancelled. Would have been OK - but for the fact that I did another leg DXB - TRV yesterday (to originate on the whole flight). As I was on EK even thought you might be 'driving' 😂 Like I said, at least I am here and free Friday so now I am spoilt for choice.

These towhooks are fine, and as it's a recent vehicle they will be in good condition. See you soon !

Hi @Rinelle Sanaani i've noticed you signed up for both Newbie drives. Please take note these are two different Newbie drives in different areas (Dubai and Sweihan). Please select one of the drives. Thanks !

Spoilt for choice and not in the country. I am literally crying ☹️

Thanks @edouard for making this wonderful scrapper to help new buyers with price guidance. Good use of knowledge to contribute and help others. I have added it in the main list. If ever you change the URL, please let me know to update the link.

Nicely documented @eduardo

Hey all, this is a first version of the scrapper for the below 10k cars. It updates once a day (it should) and I will try to correct all bugs with time. Let me know if you find it helpful and what other info we can add to it. Scrapper 4x4 on a budget. @Gaurav wikipedia is not the best database for weight/power information on cars, especially with the GCC version. I am looking for something more reliable and easier to track, will update you all soon.

I remember having the privilege to ride in that sheep for the last time when it went home on recovery from Lisali trip I added Armada and after little research, it seems that its offroad version is V8 Xterra ahead of Xterra time that comes with Ranchos shocks, skid plate, trimmed bumper for better clearance and tow hook package. Good find. Thanks. For Ford Expedition I had a word with my friend who drove his brand new Expedition for offroad and he doesn't recommend it due to being too long and heavy, but powerful, so will skip it from the list. I checked the price and cheapest is around 25k atm and that is 2006 Fortuner but 2.7 and not 4.0. Although 2.7 Prado and Fortuner are underpowered 4x4 for dunes, still classify as a full-fledged 4x4 with low gearing. Maybe next year will add them here once 4.0 drops below 20K,

Well that made up scale is based on real-life usage of BUYING and USING 4x4 for dune bashing rather than sitting on a laptop like a duck and watching tube and judging 60 - 80 hp/ton - Underpower for dunes - Not own, but driven few times 80 - 100 hp/ton - Borderline OK - 2002 Land Rover Discovery 100 - 120 hp/ton - Acceptable - 2003 - Land Cruiser GXR and 2006 Nissan Patrol 120 - 150 hp/ton - Good - 1999 Mitsubishi Pajero 150 - 200 hp/ton - Very Good - 2009 Chevrolet Trailblazer 200 - 250 hp/ton - Excellent - 2012 Land Rover Range Rover Thanks for your valuable input for Armada, I think Expedition also falls in a similar category. Will research both and add them in the list. Off course these numbers are to benchmark performance, but car overall condition really dictates the capability. As I remember buying 5.7 or 5.2 Magnum Jeep Grand Cherokee and spending money to make a project car, but every time I hit the sand in 4x4 gearing it starts heating up. Sold within 3 months.