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Desert adventurers, @Hisham Masaad @Bashar Beasha @fayez @PETELCZYC PAJERO - luke @FERNANDO SYRIO @Imteeaz @Sebb @Dinesh Kumar A @Misha Puskar @Pranjal Varsani1 @Mahmoud Taha @Stav please see below the convoy order for tomorrows drive looking forward to seeing you all in the sand

Thanks @Looper for the drive and Congratulations on your first one in the vast grasslands😅, It was different experience though! Towards second half as well enjoyed the quick technical patch before exiting😎! Looking forward for many to come and numerous loops with you😁! Was a perfect fewbie drive. @Kailas & @Islam Soliman : Always great to have you as part of the convoy. @Islam Soliman Hope the issue is getting fixed now for good, and will be looking forward to see you with the beast back in Desert. @Juan R, @Rk ram, @george charbel, @Rajat Verma, @Daniel Rodas, @Sunil Mathew it was pleasure to see you guys again ! Everyone drove well and stayed focussed at much needed times! See you all again in sand soon:)

CONVOY LIST FOR TOMORROW @Rob S @Bjoern @AlexM@Jona@Richard Franks @Zed@DP1011@Looper Good afternoon guys ! We will be using Channel 3 tomorrow: 446.056 Mhz See you all in the morning !

Dear friends Jaro Tuzinsky @Jaro Tuzinsky Martin M @Martin M Michael Chattle @Michael Chattle Tom V @Tom V Gertjan @Gertjan Patrick @Patrick Vijaya Kumar Doppa @Vijaya Kumar Doppa Ignacio Quindós @Ignacio Quindós Note the following Please be on time and bring all your passion for off-roading and a Full fuel tank as much as possible. Deflate your tires to 12 psi for all terrain tires and 15 psi if regular tires Please ensure your programable radio is on, fully charged and set to Channel 1 (446,006). Briefing will be done before we start moving Please ensure everything in the car is tied down and there are no moving objects Please check all car fluids, tow hooks, and ensure no hanging parts below the chassis. please ensure you come with a full tank (as much as possible) in addition to all mandatory gear for this drive level specially your 1. tire deflator, 2. pressure gauge 3. compressor, 4. safety flag and 5. radio. (NO FLAG or RADIO = NO DRIVE) Meeting point is as below at 8 pm in MUrquab https://goo.gl/maps/UPzSd1VJvSnYYraXA Next to Mosque in Murquab, Exiting from Al ain road For night drive 1. Use high beam and fog lamps - check you aren't glaring others 2. Follow the track taken by car in front exactly 3. If you miss track - Do not venture further on your own Convoy List as below

Thanks for the info @Davie Chase, see you soon

Ok, no problem. Thanks for inform us.

Thank you for joining the drive today. Despite the fog, everyone was at the meeting point more or less on time. Except @Abdul Basit Khan (see above), sorry for that, always disappointing when something happens just before the drive, but as you said, better have this issue on the road than in the desert. Hope to see you soon in another drive. The drive was smooth and fluid, thanks to the excellent level of the drivers. We had our fill of high climbs, large bowls, elevated ridges in the first portion. The second portion offered large dunes, with a lot of space, perfect to push a bit and let these engines roar. These parts required not only a powerful car, but also a precise driving and and accurate selection of line. All of you managed very well. After a small break under the shade, (yes, nice trees in the desert), the last portion was more relaxed, still very enjoyable through virgin dunes and soft sand, a bit technical, finishing on the sabkha, and reaching the exit track. No shovel, no rope, barely a few refusals, well done all of you ! @Krishna R thank you for the 2nd lead, always watching and rerouting when needed. @Zed, nice to see you after a long time, than you for the support from the middle. @Gurcharan Mehta, nice opportunity to test that new car in desert condition, @Pascal, excellent driving as usual, @KAMALIO, thanks for joining after that Tropic drive, @Amr Aydin, very reliable sweep as usual, thank you. Always good to have both of you in the drive (Sophie, waiting for the pics ;)). Enjoy the rest of the weekend and see you soon. Pls post your pics and/or feedback.

@Varun Mehndiratta thank you for a great drive this morning. This was my first drive in almost 3 months and it didn't disappoint! Well done everyone and see you all soon.

Easiest and cheap is dragon mart online or at the shop- quicker if you plan to get it today. Radio is a mandatory requirement to join. more info in this link you can reach out to me at 0529970964

My first intermediate drive. Thank you @Varun Mehndirattafor making this drive tremendous and remarkable. Challenges…. Full of challenges. First challenge was reaching the meeting point by overcoming the heavy fog. Then meet up the fast pace and the beautiful terrain of the sweihan. Drove with a beautiful, short and skilled convoy. Thank you @Ashutosh Garg, @Anoop Nair, @Imran Kashif, @Tom Bfor your support. It was my pleasure drive with you all.

I plugged my OBD Bluetooth after today's drive... and me too will need to buy new battery today (see below screenshot) 🫣 *lucky it happened AFTER the drive and not inside the desert 🙈

Hi Gaurav, Thanks for letting me in this group as i was waitlisted. I had off road driving experience from last 1 year and I have done around 15 - 20 rides in Dubai, Sharjah area with smaller group of friends. My car Prado 2022 is fully modified to do desert drives. I look forward for this experience tomorrow in a bigger group.

Hi All, please find the convoy number below. We will use Radio Channel 2 (446.031). @Patrick @Gautam Banka @Saverio Arena @Martin M @martin moody @Cristian @Mohit Gurnani @Srikumar @sohinik @Xavi Moyano @Georges Kazan @Klaus Pedersen @Maheshwar @Sandeep Padhi @Vanessa8580 Gaurav Silver Pajero Patrick Beige FJ Cruiser Gautam Banka Black Prado Saverio Arena Blue Wrangler Martin M Ford Bronco martin moody White FJ Cruiser Cristian Wrangler Mohit Gurnani FJ Cruiser Srikumar Green Cherokee sohinik White Trailblazer Xavi Moyano Black Wrangler Georges Kazan Black FJ Cruiser Klaus Pedersen Dark Grey Prado Maheshwar Black Pajero Sandeep Padhi Wrangler Vanessa8580 Blue Xterra @Gautam Banka as it's your first time with Carnity, kindly read and comply with all links on the drive topic above and also watch the Absolute Newbie briefing video without any distractions.

Agreed @Krishna R really nice drive , lots of variety, great introduction to me for fewbie plus level. Thank for you comment, I’m still very much learning and not to seasoned yet but I’m getting getting in sync with the Gladiator driving style, it can can handle almost anything except really turns.

Data, data and more data- Couldn’t have been a better way to wish @Looper - the data wizard, on his lead drive. Have fun all.

Thank you @Gaurav@Davie Chase@DP1011@FERNANDO SYRIO@Vaibhav@Looper@Waqas Parvez@Klaus Pedersen@Ranjan Das@Xavi Moyano@Frederic@munkybizness@Hisham Masaad for the congrats! Looking forward to driving more with you soon!

Congrats @Looper for having your drive supported by 3 Marshals. These numbers may offer you warm-up stats: 8 out of 13 are Wranglers 9 out of 13 are Americans 4X4 10 out of 13 are LWB

This drive is organized in full compliance with the COVID19 guidelines. We expect every member that joins this drive to go through below information and strictly follow these guidelines. MUST READ AND TOTALLY AGREE: COVID19 Precautions Mandatory Safety Requirements Ban from Carnity Off-road Club Two Way Radio Guidelines Drive Details Level: Newbie and above ( ABSOLUTE NEWBIE NOT ALLOWED) Meeting time: 8 PM (SHARP - Without any exceptions) 8 April 2023,Saturday Meeting Point: https://goo.gl/maps/UPzSd1VJvSnYYraXA Near Mosque in Morqum as in Google maps. Type of Car: Any proper 4x4 with front and back tow hooks and 8-10 inches of ground clearance. What to bring along: Loads of water, snacks (for yourself), smiles, face mask, rubber gloves, enthusiasm and willingness to learn. Approximate finish time: 11:45 PM P.S. Only join if you have a compressor to inflate your tires after the drive. LIMITED SPOTS AVAILABLE: Limited to 12 cars maximum. RSVP will close on Friday - 12 Noon. If the RSVP is full and you wish to join, please mention your name on the drive thread to add on the waiting list Latecomers will be returned back - without ANY EXCEPTIONS. Members without RSVP will be returned back - without ANY EXCEPTIONS. Members that do not confirm the terms of the COVID requirements will be removed from the RSVP list. Please withdraw your RSVP, if you aren't joining, so your spot can be taken by others. Repeated no-show members after RSVP will have their account suspended for a month. PLEASE RSVP ON THE CALENDAR

DRIVE PLAN We request every member that joins this drive to go through the below information and strictly follow these guidelines, etiquettes and responsibilities. MUST READ AND COMPLY Offroad Flag Guideline Two Way Radio Guideline Off road Driving Etiquette's Emergency details for all off-roaders Off Road Driving - Roles & Responsibilities DRIVE DETAILS Level: Absolute Newbie, Newbie and above When: 9 April 2023, Sunday Meeting time: 7:00 AM - Sharp (Without any exceptions) Meeting Point: https://goo.gl/maps/o92FKUgwda7k3Jv17 Approximate finish time: 11:00 AM Type of Car: Any proper 4x4 with front and back tow hooks and 8-10 inches of ground clearance. What to bring along: Loads of water, snacks (for yourself), smiles, enthusiasm and willingness to learn. Mandatory off-road gears: Tire deflator, tire pressure gauge, compressor, walkie-talkie radio, off-road flag, shovel, first-aid kit and fire extinguisher. LIMITED SPOTS AVAILABLE This drive is limited to 12 cars only. If the RSVP is full, you can add your name to the waitlist, once anyone drops, you will be moved to the RSVP list. RSVP will close a day prior to preparing a convoy list. Latecomers will be returned back - Without any exceptions. Members without RSVP will be returned back - Without any exceptions. Please withdraw your RSVP, if you aren't joining, so your spot can be taken by others. Repeated no-show members after RSVP will have their account suspended for a month. First time with Carnity Off-road Club: Please share your vehicle details - Make, Model, Color, and Year. Do you have any prior off-road experience? If yes, pls share details. Confirm your vehicle has front and rear tow hooks/eyelets. Advise if you don’t have a programable radio and safety flag. MUST WATCH: NEWBIE VIDEO BRIEFING PLEASE RSVP ON THE CALENDAR

Cancellation of drive. Dear all @Bashar Beasha @fayez @PETELCZYC PAJERO - luke @FERNANDO SYRIO @Imteeaz @Sebb @Dinesh Kumar A @Misha Puskar @Pranjal Varsani1 @Mahmoud Taha @Stav unfortunately @Hisham Masaad has suffered a car breakdown and won’t be able to make the drive in the morning. Therefore, we will have to cancel the drive tomorrow. We really apologise for the late cancellation and hope you all understand as this is out with our control. Hope to see you all in the sand again very soon. Davie

Thanks @Srikumar for highlighting this very imp point of fog. @Patrick @Gautam Banka @Saverio Arena @Martin M @martin moody @Cristian @Mohit Gurnani @Srikumar @sohinik @Xavi Moyano @Georges Kazan @Klaus Pedersen @Maheshwar @Sandeep Padhi @Vanessa8580 If there is a fog in the morning everyone drive below 80 kmph speed within Abu Dhabi, and we will start the drive late by 7:30 AM and still finish at 11:00 AM. If no fog, we will stick to our regular timing, so don't be late please.

Guys, just a reminder that in event of fog (similar to today), the speed limit on all roads in Abu Dhabi drop to 80 km/h and the cameras are automatically programmed to send you a SMS at 81 km/h.

It was nice talking to you, and I appreciate your guidance; standing down from today's night drive and instead join more daytime ones before choosing a night drive again. Thank you for being so kind. Enjoy your drive

It will have a battery which needs charging/ you can buy a car charger as a one off incident I will carry a spare radio I have for you. But by next drive you have to carry one . I presume u have other mandatory gears .

Lol good one @Felix Obst , fun being at the front too, I’m used to being near the back of the convoy.

Hello Chaitanya; this is Vijay. I’m joining Carnity Night Newbie Desert Drive - Murquab - Dubai - 8 Apr 2023 Can you advise where I can purchase a walkie-talkie? I was at ace hardware for a shovel and the radio, but they are not selling the radios. I got a trifold bush ranger shovel Can I have your contact number? @Chaitanya D or, pls call me at 0526471735

It’s designed to smash it not to turn 💥

Hey @Looperand guys, sorry I missed to join this morning. Had taken cold relief tablet at nite and that put me to dead sleep, missing alarms etc. Heard you had a good drive. Well done.

Hi @Gaurav definitely I'm interesting to join your ride. Would be great privilege if I get the spot. Thank you.

Drive RSVP has been extended. @Gautam Banka and @Martin M please confirm if you both still like to join this drive.

Congrats @Looper I am sure you will have fun will all the stats...👏

A topic on which I spent at least 6 months before going ahead with TE, stock model. A brief review - First come first both Jeepers and TE are registered with FCA so vehicle as base are reliable and no tricks in general expected from either. Specialization of both is diff - Jeepers though sells stock as well, main business for them is mods. TE main business is selling stock cars, mods for them is additional revenue stream not main. Stock vs stock - I always found Jeepers being bit more expensive on comparing stock Jeep from TE. Offers at TE were always better. However, Jeepers uses much more broader brands on modification while TE uses only Mopar. So in case one later decides to do mods - options to modify will be broader with Jeepers with some better flexibility on warranty (ofcourse only if modified by Jeepers). For eg some after market mods on stock from TE might void warranty. However since Jeepers in any case wants to do mod, i understand they provide better warranty coverage despite mods. This is important element especially for those who are clear they will go ahead with Mods. Ensure you check this before taking the call. Mods/Mods - If planning to go for Mod from day 1 and don’t want to go through the process of selection of mods by yourself, Jeepers might be a better option - broader optioms, a store that specializes in mods is surely better than one that mainly is a stock seller. Surely this value add from Jeepers come at a cost but then that’s the value add of going through a specialist. I agree with comments above that Off road zone and some others maybe even better options on functional mods. For cosmetic changes no one in AE beats Jeepers (at least I don’t know anyone). Beyond car price - you have registeration fees (<1000aed), mortgage registration in case planning and processing fees for loan. And ofcourse insurance.

I have heard some crazy stories about Jeepers. As Gaurav mentioned, they do look nice for onroad or mall crawling. I have seen cars from Offroad Zone being better customised for offroad. I have visited both shops and was more convinced by Offroad Zone. Rubicon seems to be the best option if you are not planning to spend more money on the upgrades.

Sorry Hisham, organized other plans since I was not yet confirmed. I will need to pass on this drive. Enjoy it!

Thank you @Gaurav Certainly I understand your point. Hope there will be spot available for your ride. Unfortunately I'm most of weekends outside Dubai so it would great for me to use this weekend.

Hey @Patrick🥳 Herzlichen Glückwunsch 👏👏 Hope to be at your level soon too so we can be in the same convoy again 😎

Jeeper edition is more of a "bigger and better" approach to oversize all things at once. Those wranglers do look good but sadly most of them only look good on road. On the sand, they do not perform better. Simply put, putting extra big beefy tires is counter-productive for sand dune climb and will restrict any car climbing capabilities. I haven't seen a single Jeep with a 35 or 37-inch tire climbing Faya from the front, but I did see every stock Wrangler scaling Faya easily. They do this as it "looks" good and people are happy to spend 10-100K on various packages and configs for the aesthetics without knowing what really works in sand. The choice is completely yours if you wanna buy a Jeep to flash around the city and neighbor = Jeepers. If you wanna offroad and build it slowly as per really required mods = stock. I would spend my money to get top trim Rubicon with all three diff-lock or Sand Runner (if you like pickup style) and then drive for 5-10 drives to understand the vehicle dynamics before modifying.

Hi @Gaurav I would like to check if there is a chance to join the drive with you on Sunday.

Hey night riders, i have to say I was a bit nervous the first 30 minutes of the drive being the second lead at a night drive for the first time. Thank you @Krishna R and @M.Seidam for the nice words!!! It was an awesome experience and I really loved the pace just slowed down by the African savanna from time to time but of course we had to watch out not crashing into a rhino! Thank you all for the funny moments and the team work! Ramadan Kareem, happy Easter or just another wonderful weekend in the country of dune bashing! See you in the sand champs!

Congratulations @Patrick well done 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

Apologies for the cancellation. Hope to join you for a drive in the future.

Thank you Doc @M.Seidam for a Magical drive in Qudra with the full moon lighting our way. We experienced everything - tech dunes, side sweeps, ridges and also a surprise stint in the African savannah The pace was superb during the middle part and touched intermediate a few times I generally come to night drives with less expectations and I can safely say that the off-roader in me was very happy and content last night. @Felix Obst an amazing second lead and your lines were perfectly in sync with Doc's @M.Seidam lead. Thank you @Simon D for the support and your helpful tips. Impeccable sweeping done by @Haitham Khattab supported with @Tareq Al Turq. The convoy performed brilliantly with seasoned off-roaders like @Tharun Kumar V @Gary F in sync with their machines. It was a delight guys. See you in the sands soon guys. Until then, keep calm and Ramadan Kareem.

Good morning, I hope everyone is geared up for the drive tomorrow. Firstly let us congratulate @Looper on completing the leader's lead. @Looper will be leading the drive tomorrow. @Islam Soliman and I will be supporting you with recoveries and any assistance. The convoy will be published later today. See you all tomorrow. Cheers!

When you buy Jeepers Edition you lose your choice of parts if it is a pure pre-built, but you can preconfigure the stuff you want and order the configuration. Either way you are buying many upgrades you might not need. Another thing to consider is that you are paying for all the upgrades upfront, while it will be cheaper if you are sure about getting those upgrades and you want them. but if you are not sure then that is a current cashflow that you can spread over many many months even years. My guess is that they buy Jeeps at bulk and at a wholesale price so the overall vehicle with the upgrades will be cheaper compared to the sum of parts if you are going to buy them on your own. But if the off-roading bug has not bitten you, then consider carefully if you want all that stuff. Jeepers Edition will definitely work for you if you are looking to buy a beefy & juiced up desert ready Jeep, nothing much to bother about anymore. Having said that if you are asking here then... maybe, you are not sure, and in that case, I would again suggest that you go for Jeep directly and then make the modifications as you progress over the months based on what works for you. I won't recommend Jeepers for first-time buyers & if you are new to the off-roading community. In Carnity, we respect and value the essence of stock cars and the skill that is needed to drive them. We try not to break any car because safety is the prime objective here. A Jeep Wrangler Rubicon is more than just "good enough" for most to reach Intermediate Level in this club before you want to do any upgrades. The emphasis is on want and not need. All that you need is the basic recovery stuff, and you are good to go for years to do weekly drives.

Great, thank you for it! Its very useful for me. I will drive this Friday and Saturday with my friends. My car has 700km:) including skid plate, kill switch..

I would strongly advise you to 1. Run in/Break in the new car ( at least 500km+) more info on the forums https://www.fjcruiserforums.com/threads/engine-break-in-for-the-fjc-v6.100127/. Many advises there from experienced members driving a FJ 2. Acquaint yourself with the gearing (after point 1) , how to engage 4H and 4L and ride it. Each car responds differently , and even with experienced driver like you or anyone - a new car needs some time to get used to. So take it easy 3. Once you are done with 1 and 2, take it for a spin on sands - preferably during day light as visibility is better. I hope you get my advise sportively and not to discourage you to join. You are always a great driver and a friend to ride with .

It will be my first FJ drive:) looking forward to doing it with your lead.

Well done @Patrick

Great @Jaro Tuzinsky. I believe you have got yourself acquainted with the new ride in daylight . FJ is a awesome choice

Hej @Chaitanya D i am looking forward to driving with you, other mates and my brand new FJ cruiser:)