Harshal

6 hours ago, Simon D said:

Dear Ghost Busters 👻.

@Emanuel, @Rafey Hashmi , @Robk , @Mahesh_ , @Hugo, @Harshal , @Deepak Eswar , @Rk ram , @Tareq Al Turq

I hope you are ready and prepared with all your tools and gears  . Hopefully you are not scared of ghosts !!!! as we are on a mission to explore the haunted village and maybe encounter some ghosts 👻👻👻 ( i just hope they like Coffee 🤣)

As always emphasized and required that everyone make sure that their car is in a perfect shape and have all the gear as per their rank. 

Meeting Point: https://goo.gl/maps/ZPJvvCKqYmfuxvqN9

Meeting time is 07:15 AM Sharp

We will use Carnity Radio Channel 7.

The convoy order will be as the following :

Hi Simon, 

Apologies. Something just came up and I won't be able to make it. 

Sorry for last minute notice. 

I hope someone from waitlist is ready for I know will be a beautiful ride. 

Awesome drive everybody, enjoyed being the sweep for the first time 👏

Congrats @Simon D, see you soon!

On 1/30/2024 at 1:26 PM, Alphin Aloor said:

++ more creature comforts if you get the super safari

 - electric leather seats

 - auto AC

 - Coil springs

 It's not the fastest vehicle out there - but in SWB it should be perfect. LWB is really slow :(.

Then you turbo or supercharge it, Ive seen what monsters spawn from certain garages! 😆

The mods look pretty decent, brands are all good. Go with your gut feeling though. On paper the cars a good buy, as long as youre not overpaying.

Wow! Thats 23 cars so far. Gonna be a fun one, welcome to all new members. 

Congrats! @JeromeFJ

Congrats!! @DP1011

20 hours ago, Josh S said:

For those driving in 4H, how often are you in First vs Second gear?  

Almost never, i keep mine in auto as theres no need to keep in manual unless its a tough climb. Usually in 3-4

Unfortunately I wont be able to attend tomorrow as my cars still in the garage. Enjoy the drive people!

46 minutes ago, Gaurav said:

Hi Harshal, I have extended convoy by 5 cars factoring few no-show, absorbing all 11 WL wouldn't be possible for safety reasons.

100% agreed. Enjoy the drive guys!

6 minutes ago, Zed said:

 

To cut the story short: Senior Marshal Fadi drives in 4Lo, and his convoy won the Desert Champions Trophy (I believe all in his convoy does the same; driving in 4Lo). That's 6 hours of non-stop driving in 4Lo and so yes you can get away with it.  His opinion on 4Lo here >> https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cm6VAp4q6lR/?igsh=ZnozYXVhbTNhZHNv

So I've re-geared 4x already and I've seen what's inside my transfer case + front & rear diffs. I would never drive 4Lo high speed in my Gear-Driven Transfer Case Land Cruiser, but I've driven a few times in 4Lo with my 5-speed Jeep with Chain-Driven Transfer Case... because Gear-Driven Transfer Case is only suitable for low-speed driving.  This is why there is No Generic Rule to 4LO: it primarily depends on the car and secondarily depends on the driver if he wishes to experiment with his car  

1) First front & rear to 4.88 gearing to cater for heavier tires on the Land Cruiser

2) Second opened my Transfer Case and re-geared the 4Lo gears to make 1:3 reduction in 4Lo only.

3) Third when installing ARB air lockers (carriers) I opened the front & rear differentials and notice the ring pattern signify that my differentials were not properly installed the first time. So I re-geared front & diff again, this time making sure proper break-in process is followed and triple-checking the backlash & preload of rings & pinions.

4) Finally I opened my Transfer Case again cos I was afraid same thing might happen to the Transfer Case as with the diffs. Then for fun & experiment I re-geared the 4Hi gearing in transfer case by simply changing 2 gears. This basically makes my 4Hi "spin more".

The 4.88 in front & rear diffs + the 10% underdrive in 4H gears Transfer Case = 5.3 final drive ratio so I don't need 4Lo for normal sand driving (even if my Transfer Case was Chain-Driven).

The whole Transfer Case system is just a GEAR REDUCTION mechanical device. And so a 1:4 Transfer Case Ratio for Rubicon just means the max speed in 4Lo is  1/4th of the max speed in 4Hi.  It's like driving slower than 1st Gear, but because there is no -1, -2, -3, -4  Shifter, the wizards invented Transfer Case to go Lower than Normal 1st Gear. Obviously there is no use of these lower gears in the asphalt / normal highway, but depending on car (should you wish to experiment), it may has some advantage in loose-traction areas like sand and slower-but-precision drives like rock-crawling.

 

So will 4Lo break your car? Judging by the simplicity of Gear Reduction concept, it probably won't. BUT older cars like my Land Cruiser have Gear-Driven Transfer Case whcih are not suitable for high-speed motion, so I agree with @Carnity Marshals here that you shouldn't drive in 4Lo with these kind of cars.  Newer cars with more transmission shifts and Chain-Driven Transfer Case have more flexibility... with the Chain TransferCase you can drive faster than with Noisy Gear-Driven TransferCase.  Most people who broke their transfer case in 4Lo most probably broke their Chain in the transfer case too, but for the adventurous who like to experiment with their cars, go ahead and drive in 4Lo... the theory has been laid out, and now it's time for practice 😁

 

Awesome explanation! Im looking to regear my tundra soon, ill be going with 37’s then, already got the clearance. Just thinking about my power steering system, dont want that failing, but from what Ive heard so far, after regearing most people havent had any issues.

On 2/21/2019 at 2:47 PM, Javier M said:

Today I would like to talk about that tool that you might not think about too often until you have a flat tire or a pop out and you are on the side of the road or some place in the desert. 

There are over 8 different types of Jacks! But for our purposes we will focus on the 4 main types of Jacks

• Scissor Jacks
• Hydraulic Jacks – these include Floor Jacks and Bottle Jacks
• Hi-lift Jacks – also known as a High Lift or Farm Jack
• Exhaust Jacks

Scissor Jacks

A scissor jack is perhaps the most common type of jack you may have encountered as these jacks come with your car!

Pros: Scissor Jacks are lightweight and reasonably small, making them easy to store and use for the average consumer / car owner. These days there are even electrically operated scissor jacks available that run off your vehicles battery. This makes jacking your car up to change a tire a very simple process.

Cons: They are incredibly unstable, they are also very slow to use as you have to turn the screw quite a few times to get any meaningful height out of them. If you have a tall vehicle or you will be going off-road then you need to look somewhere else, this is not the jack for you. 

 

Floor Jacks

With floor jacks the arm of the unit is pumped repeatedly. This pumping action sucks oil out of the jacks oil reservoir and forces it into the lift chamber, creating an increase in oil pressure and resulting in the saddle arm of the jack rising and lifting your car.

Pros: These jacks are far superior to scissor jacks as they take much more punishment, wear and tear and rarely if ever fail, even after decades of use!. They even sell them without the wheels to be used off-road (see below). 

Cons: Look at the size of that thing! not all of us have space for our off-road equipment, camping equipment and this massive thing.

Bottle Jacks

Another type of hydraulic jack that you may be familiar with is the bottle or whiskey jack. So named as its physical appearance resembles an old fashioned whiskey jug or bottle. The bottle jack has a single lift rod, which acts as a piston. 

Cons: One major drawback is its collapsed height is usually only half that of its extended height, this means its unsuitable for many regular vehicles. When using on a vehicle many people like to use a block of timber to help cushion the impact on the cars body of the relatively small (in comparison to a floor jack saddle) point of impact.

Pros: Is ideal for vehicles with higher clearances, such as trucks and 4wds. The range of height is much less than a garage jack as well, but once again for vehicles that already have high ground clearance this isn’t a problem. They are usual more robust, take up a lot less space in your vehicle when compared to a floor jack and can safely take more weight.

Hi-Lift Jacks (Widow makers)

Hi-Lift Jacks, also known as High Lift and Farm Jacks were originally developed for farm work, they are made of a pair of climbing pins, that climb the height of the jack (sometimes as high as 2 meters) by a ratcheting action, achieved by a manual pumping mechanism.

Cons: The jacks are not suitable for conventional vehicles, you need to have steel bumpers and/or rock sliders to use this jack, they will sink in the sand, they are super dangerous if you don't know what you are doing (see below). 

Pros: There are no hydraulics to fail nor cranking of an undersized bottle jack to raise your vehicle. Simply plant the jack under your vehicle, place the foot of the jack under a secure anchor point on your bumper or rock sliders, and then, using the long round lever, start cranking.

 

Exhaust Jacks

The exhaust air jack lifts a vehicle using emissions coming from the tailpipe. A hose attaches from the exhaust to a big sack placed under the car. The air coming out of the pipe fills the bag, and voilà! The car lifts off the ground.

Cons: This is meant to be used with 6 or 8 cylinder vehicles, it may not work with 4 cylinders because there is not enough engine compression to lift the vehicle. If you have a dual exhaust you can't use this. 

Pros: The sack is placed anywhere under the chassis, so no jack points are necessary. Since the gadget is basically a big balloon, there's no need to center it under a particular spot on the car. This works perfectly on sand. 

 

Im buying a Pro Eagle floor jack, with the height and suspension travel of my truck, even if a standard jack can make contact with the chasis or control arms it still won't be able to lift the tire up off the ground, I learnt this the hard way when I bought a Big Red floor jack only for it to be completely useless. Pro eagle is the gold standard, at least for off-road trucks and its even used in some Baja race trucks, its a bit pricey but I recommend it if you have space and if it suits your needs.

On 1/8/2024 at 9:17 PM, Zed said:

was enjoying this debate while eating popcorn, and I thought when the Crews started giving their advice, this thread would have been finalized, but nooooo 😂

@Josh S the easy answer is if you're driving with Carnity Marshals, 99% you'll drive in 4H. 

Using @Looper's video here >> https://www.instagram.com/p/Cz1suDgNlgq/  you can see the speed stats and he's driving around 50 km / h. Your 2021 Rubicon has the 4:1 Transfer Case Ratio ... Then the max speed is a quarter (1/4) of the max speed in 4H, assuming 160 km/h max in 4H, your 4L max speed is 40 km/h. Any more than that and you're redlining, overheating both your engine and possibly reducing transmission life.

Now those other JL Sports have 2.7:1 Transfer Case Ratio, so in 4Lo their max speed is 1/2.7 which is 60 km/h. If they're following Looper in that video, they can drive in 4L and get away with it (although I'd postulate they can't drive too long without breaks).

Yes you can run 55 mph (100 km/h) in 4Lo like video below >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iEboJi5FhpE   Look how "Torquey" the car is when in 4Low.

The Marshals who drive in 4Lo usually have these characteristics:

1. They firmly believe the Owner's Manual only applies to Asphalt Traction. When they're driving in very loose traction like super soft sand, 4Low has more tolerances thus you can go higher than the manual says.

 

2. They have BeadLock Wheels, which are heavier and need more torque to turn than normal lighter stock wheels.

3. They have Heavier Tires, combined with BeadLock most probably 285s (33") or taller. Again, more torque needed to spin the tires.

4. They have 6-speed or 8-speed transmissions, so they can get away with 4Low + 8th Gear which is close to 4High + 1st Gear but more torque.

5. No Carnity Marshals have #1-3 above, so back to original quick rule: when driving with Carnity, use 4High  

 

 

Not sure about Jeeps specifically but my Tundra has relatively heavy tires (315 Baja Champions), of course its Supercharged and modified a lot, but I still never use 4LO, (if you really want better response from heavy and large tires, it better to regear) it stresses the car out too much and I only use it if the car is really badly stuck. In general for most cars, use 4H, use 4LO only if you see the car isn't responding well or when you feel that it needs that extra push.

4 hours ago, Harshal said:

Thats because I wont be able to attend on Sunday afternoon sadly.

@Gaurav Is the only option for joining the drive going to be opting for Sunday instead of Saturday or will you be able to accommodate WL members? I’ll plan accordingly. 👍

9 hours ago, DP1011 said:

@Harshal In that case You need to Like ❤️, Gaurav's post. I see you reacted it with Thanks ( 🏆).  😅

Thats because I wont be able to attend on Sunday afternoon sadly.

Its been a while, would be very exciting to hit the dunes again. Fingers crossed 🤞

@M.Seidam- what a wonderful drive. we enjoyed a lot. Your leadership skills alongvwith support staff to get the Pardo out was commendable, especially with heavy winds making life difficult 

This should be the video on how NOT to recover a car 😂

Im in, its been a while. Hopefully we can accommodate everyone in the waitlist.

What a drive...my co pilot has exams else I was in. 

@Frederic- I see lot of efforts in planning and attention to details. Hats off to u. 

I am very happy to be part of the Carnity family 

All good @AlexM, the front diff breather hose had come out and was an easy fix. Thanks all for the drive.

Wow!! Thanks Gaurav for sharing the details of the experience. Nothing will replace the learning gained by being on site. For people like me who were not there, your explanation does help understand the situation.

Gald to be part of this club where we really root for each other 

@Gertjan- Thank u for sharing the pictures. Unfortunately I had to drop. I missed the fun

5 minutes ago, Frederic said:

600km off-road ?

Fuel requirement is mentioned here:

Fuel requirement:

• 6 Cyl cars = 100 Liter (Minimum) - 120 Liter (for more fuel-guzzling cars)
• 8 Cyl cars = 120 Liter (Minimum) - 140 Liter (for more fuel-guzzling cars)
• Carry an additional required number of jerry cans based on your car fuel tank capacity.

As you have a V8 you will need to have a minimum of 120l of petrol (combination of gas tank + jerry cans).

This is mandatory without exceptions. Of course if your main tank is already 120 liters then you are good.

Close to 600km on road, not sure about offroad lol, the tank capacity is about 144l so I'll be fine. Thanks.