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Offroad club vs private drive, which is better?

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I like to know why I should drive with any offroad club in dubai when im happy with private drives with my friends? love to hear from ppl who have done both and favor one side over the other

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my opinion, there is no should, the main matter is never going alone to the desert if you are more than 2 cars and you have experience with full recovery equipments, enjoy the ride

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yes i have exp of 8-10 drives in last 2 years and we go 5 to 10 cars with famiy

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Very good question @derik, actually  difficult to answer since we don’t know your friends...

In a good off-road clubyou increase your chances to learn things your friends may not be able to teach you. 

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1 hour ago, derik said:

I like to know why I should drive with any offroad club in dubai when im happy with private drives with my friends? love to hear from ppl who have done both and favor one side over the other

Well i'd like to compare it with going to the gym because you want to get in a better shape:

Option 1:

You go alone to the nearest gym, mess around a bit with the equipment, get sprains and injuries, and maybe you will become a bit more fit once you get to know how the equipment works, but you are left to your own devices and not always sure about if you are doing the right thing OR if it is even safe to do with the health or equipment you have.

 

Option 2:

You join a gym and go for 10-15 lessons. Your personal teacher will assess your current condition and will guide you safely to minimize injuries or accidents. Thanks to his experience and knowledge you will progress much faster than others and will be grateful for having somebody to learn something from.

Joining an Offroad club like Carnity is free, and you get professional advice from people who can safely guide you through and avoid mistakes which in the desert can end up being costly or even fatal. 

But don't take it from me, take it from the dozens of people that joined Offroad clubs and learned essential stuff like how to deflate properly, recover yourself, and what you and your car can do. If you or your friends get stuck, do you know what to do or which equipment to use to safely recover yourself ? 

I go for regular camping trips myself with a group of friends, but we don't venture deep and definitely don't do the stuff we are doing in an Offroad club. We drive around a bit, set up camp, and have some drinks. We avoid the real dunes and difficult tracks because most of my friends have very little Offroad experience and we don't want to get in trouble having our car full with kids, dogs, etc...

Joining Carnity Offroad and doing the Newbie drives gave me more confidence and far less stress when going camping with my friends, as i know that my car is always equipped with recovery gear and i know how to use it. And most of all i can help my friends by sharing that information.

PS replace "teacher" by our Offroad Specialists like @Gaurav, @Srikumar @Asif Hussain, @Emmanuel, @Rahimdad and more team members who will take your under their wings and teach you all the skills and fun our UAE deserts have to offer....

 

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@derik I can write up all I want, but you will only realize the difference if you join us once. We too will get a chance to know you better and discuss this further.

From my personnel opinion having driven off-road for over 10 years and been on both sides, when I have done a few drive with friends and done it as a club. When you are driving in private you might take things seriously and have all the equipment, but those around you would always keep depending on you, where as in a club as you grow you realize that you need to carry some equipment as an individual and along with your driving capability your safety tools also increase. Within 10 friends you are limited to certain areas and would not venture out much, plus if friends are busy or have other engagement you will be left with no drive at all. Whereas in a club there is a drive posted very week, sometimes multiple drives and you can join one which suits your level, having a 100+ members helps, because atleast 10 - 15 cars would want to attend every week.

The first year we had no official structure in Carnity due to which we faced several problems, after introducing structure last year, more people enjoy their level of drive, learn with enthusiasm as they want to grow and help others and we make new friends every week. in a friendly drive you will not be able to discover so many places as the comfort level is not so much, you might always sacrifice your drive style to suit the lowest level member in your friends, whereas in a structured club you can join the drives you like or lower level drives knowing that it is going to be slower than your style of drive. As a club you will get to taste several flavours as everybody as individuals has their own preferred terrain and drive style. plus with so many minds at work we are always trying to discover and try out new areas with intermediate drivers and above.

I like the way @Frederic has tried to give you an example of a gym, or the way @Emmanuel  has expressed his concern as we do not know your drive level or drive style along with your friends or the equipment available to you or the areas you visit or if you have tried to explore new terrains. We are always open to questions and appreciate your question. I have been off-roading for over 10 years, but I still learn from people who ask questions and the many challenges we face during each drive. We are blessed at Carnity to have a very strongly knitted team and all those who join have a like minded approach.

Once again I would like to welcome you and your friends to join us and we can chat further on this subject. I am sure after driving with us a couple of times most of your questions will be answered without a word being said.

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@derik that's a very tricky question asked by you it's an individual choice whether you want to learn something new driving with a off road club or go to the same places with same old friends.

 When you drive in our club you get to know people from different nationalities and different modes of life and learn from their experiences.

At carnity we are a family more than a club.

As you get to know people in the club you will invite your friends too and you will be able to relate to your question and answer us with your feedback.👍

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Thanks guy for all inputs and showuing the so many different ways and angles i havent realize. I agree fred we limit ourselve many times to serios duens due to the few underpower suv. will think a way to bring my clan to carnity family too - hope it work with so many noisy animals in one group 

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My experience with friends always ended up with there choices to stay, bbq, live cooking, than actual drive. Hence since the beginning, I was very happy with club discipline that everyone gets together to drive and nothing else. Off course after drive we do chill, cook, bbq and relax but not during the drive.

No matter how much you plan and organize with friends but one guy wants to sit back and enjoy so the whole group has to suffer. I have endless stories with guy change his mind and opted to do the photo shoot of his wife, kid and car and leaving all of us to wait for 3+ hours in the best dunes. Other time, one guy change his mind to stay overnight on one island, so I have to split and drove the rest of the way alone to keep my hotel booking during Eid holidays.

As everyone mentioned, with clubs you will explore more places and learn faster due to collective experience on board and in offroad you can never learn enough. I and Rahimdad still leaning after decades of experience.

The second best thing with clubs is you get to meet different nationalities and talk to them about there country offroad experience, try their cuisines, share jokes and know more about there culture that you rarely get to see with friends and families. In Carnity I guess we have over 20 different nationalities in the offroad club and I always look forward to sitting with them in the end. I rarely eat my own food, as I love trying different cuisine while listening to their own interesting and colorful stories. You will actually see how cheerful people are in offroad rather than at work culture because at work everyone is serious and busy with their routine but in offroad it's more of a vent out and relaxes for everyone so you will enjoy there jovial side more often.

Thirdly in most of the offroad clubs here in UAE, safety is paramount so chances of you getting into unsafe recovery/mishap are very less, as they always have trained Marshals and Crew to take care of extreme recoveries and accidents.

Looking forward to seeing your clan and don't worry about the noisy animals as Jungle is already filled with many.

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This was a nice read and a lot of good answers 👍🏻

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