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So it looks Dr. @Chaitanya D, there were two cases affected in the drive, you and @PaoloMaraziti😅

Hi @Russ @Ranjan Das @Sunil Mathew @Zed @Adhir Saxena @JeromeFJ You are all added to the drive.. see you on Sat morning Hi @RooRzOn, we had 6 WL already on the drive (2nd drive) which made the full 10.. but having you is always a pleasure so will make it 11.. see you on Sat morning.

Thanks Chris Wing @Chris Wing for letting us know, and looking forward to seeing you on another drive soon. The latest sign-up is below. Ben84 @Ben84 Russ @Russ darren thompson @darren thompson Zixuan Huang @Zixuan Huang Arshad Roojee @Arshad Roojee Tareck @Tareck Hardik Mody @Hardik Mody Sunil Mathew @Sunil Mathew Warren Flay @Warren Flay Nihal17 @Nihal17 We now have @Will Seivewright on waitlist, and @Jeepie and @Nabil Bishara as support. Will send final convoy numbering tomorrow afternoon.

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Well done everyone @Thomas Varghese, @Russ, @Werno, @Alain Canivet-Abikhalil, @Darren Brooke, @Lakshmi Narasimhan, @Danish Mohammad, @M.Seidam , @GauravSoni, we all enjoyed all the challenges at night. @PaoloMaraziti just relax, don't come to any conclusions . Probably you can start with NB drives in the dark, get more used to the alterations and then join FB drives which are faster. The terrain from Pink Rock to Big Red is a bit of a roller coaster so some tend to feel motion sick. Other areas which are similar are Area 53, Shuaib and Badayer. So refrain from these areas (which tend to be a roller coaster kind of ride with a fab convoy like yesterday where hardly anyone slows down), then slowly build the practice. Hopefully you should get used to , if not then you make a informed decision . @Shaaz Sha thanks for the wonderful support @Lorenzo Candelpergher beautiful drive with a enthusiastic group absolutely agree with everything in your report. Thank you After driving the FJ out and coming back in a plush Rubicon , I was a bit weary sitting back in my X-Terractor🤣

If it's a 20 inch LED light bar, install it on the bumper.

While we have been enjoying night drives in this hot summer, it is important we are well aware as to what needs to be done in case of a creeper bite in the dark. Desert is their home and we are the "invaders" , and hence instinctively they can bite us in self defense. Scorpions and snakes are more active at night and hence it is required you know what needs to be done when this can occur SNAKES: a quick pictorial review of snakes which can be found in UAE. Snakes can be venomous (Poisonous) and non venomous(Non poisonous) Non venomous 1. Blind Snake Non venomous 2. Thread Snake Non venomous 3. Sand Boa Non venomous 4. Wadi Racer Non venomous 5. False Cobra Non venomous 6. Sand racer - Hissing snake Non venomous Venomous Snakes - Poisonous - the Triangular faced Vipers are dangerous which are the only poisonous snakes found in UAE 1. Saw Scaled Viper - Poisonous 2. Sand Viper - Poisonous 3. False Horned Viper -Poisonous Vipers are the only venomous snakes in the UAE, and are found mostly in desert and rocky mountain areas. Snake bites are extremely rare, and most occur when a snake is picked up/ felt it is in danger. The Venom from UAE Vipers is Haemotoxic (destroys blood cells) Sometimes puncture wounds can be seen at site of the bite. Bite is generally not very painful but within one hour copious bleeding is likely from the bite wound and any other wounds cuts or scratches the victim may have. Symptoms include a severe headache, nausea and vomiting. It’s helpful to restrict the blood and lymphatic flow, but it’s important not to cause bruising which can lead to bleeding under the skin. If Venom is spat in to a person’s eyes use any liquid available, preferably a neutral one such as water or milk – but anything at all will do, to flush out the eye. Do's and Don'ts of Treating Snake Bite Symptoms usually manifest soon after a snake bite, so observing the victim is extremely important. If no symptoms have occurred within half an hour of the bite then indications would be that it was not a venomous snake, it failed to inject any venom or the snake was very old and had little or no venom left. Do Try to identify the snake; color, size, shape of head, attacking method are useful. Take a picture with mobile if feasible but don't chase the snake. Loosen the Victim’s clothing and move them in to comfort. Keep the victim calm and still; movement will increase blood flow and transport the venom to the heart much faster. Immobilize the limb but do NOT restrict blood flow unless you are certain the bite was from a snake that delivers neurotoxic venom. Clean and dress the wound being careful not to apply pressure and cause bruising. Inform the trip lead/support IMMEDIATELY so that he/she can manage a exit quickly to the tarmac. Do Not While there can be differences of opinion as to what we should do for snake bites the consensus of opinion as to what not to do is reasonably consistent: Allow the victim to exercise or stress themselves. Cut the bite or attempt to suck the venom out. Give the victim anything to eat or drink especially alcohol. Use potassium permanganate crystals or solution near or on the bite wound. Use soapy water round the bite wound. Leave pressure bandages on too long. Leave the victim alone. Apply ice to the wound. Soak the affected limb in any solutions. How to avoid this extremely rare occurrence in the desert on Night drives 1. Compulsorily wear thicker full pants and ankle boots. Least being a full covered shoes. Coming in shorts and flip flops/slippers means you are voluntarily increasing the risk 2. Refrain from walking in bushy areas . 3. In a unusual scenario of shovelling near bushes make sure you have a clearly lit area to make sure there aren't any . 4. Please use a bright torch and look where you step while taking biobreaks! Do not take biobreaks near bushes. Safer you stay inside your vehicle at all times , unless needed. SCORPIONS: Scorpion stings are painful but rarely life-threatening. There are about 25 species of scorpion in the UAE, two of which are known to release venom that can lead to nausea, shock and irregular heartbeat. 1. Fat Tailed Scorpion - large and Black 2. Deathstalker - Smaller (about 5 cm) and Yellow in color - More Dangerous Signs and symptoms at the site of a scorpion sting may include: Pain, which can be intense Numbness and tingling Slight swelling Warmth What to Do in case of a bite Identify if possible , or take a picture Announce immediately for quicker exit How to avoid this occurrence in the desert on Night drives 1. Compulsorily wear thicker full pants and ankle boots. Least being a full covered shoes. Coming in shorts and flip flops/slippers means you are voluntarily increasing the risk 2. Refrain from walking in bushy areas . 3. In a unusual scenario of shovelling near bushes make sure you have a clearly lit area to make sure there aren't any . 4. Please use a bright torch and look where you step while taking biobreaks! Do not take biobreaks near bushes . Safer you stay inside your vehicle at all times , unless needed.

Congratulations @Nathan Evans for reaching the Fewbie Plus Level with Carnity Offroad Club. Looking forward to seeing you growing further and helping others to learn the art of offroading in a safe environment. Please make sure your Carnity user profile is always updated with all the latest Emergency contact details. P.S. Trip lead might deny your participation if you don't have required off-road gear. FEWBIE PLUS Drives Attended (Indicative) Minimum 10 Fewbie drives are required within last 6 months for Fewbie Plus promotion. What you'll learn Advance dune and sand reading Advance recovery techniques Rocking and crawling to make path Learn to flatten/compact soft sand patch Self recovery from crest Advance side sloping and long hill climb Advance ridge riding and criss crossing Advance control over technical dunes Slightly faster pace desert driving FULLY control and avoid fishtailing Never fight or challenge gravity Skills required Enthusiastic and positive attitude Willingness to learn and help others Extremely attentive and focused while driving Car Worthiness Any 4x4 vehicle with low range gearing Suitable approach and departure angle Bash plate and skid plate protected Off-road gear required Safety flag, tire deflator, tire pressure gauge, shovel, fire extinguisher, medical kit, radio (walkie-talkie), air compressor. Drive teamwork Manage second lead and sweep positions upon request Intuitive and proactive to support Trip Lead Observe recoveries and offer help, when needed Drive Joining Join Newbie, Fewbie and Fewbie Plus drives Forum participation Active participation on the forum Share drive experience + feedback Share drive pictures in the gallery Post trip report after the drive

Congratulations @Nithin Vaidir for reaching the Fewbie Plus Level with Carnity Offroad Club. Looking forward to seeing you growing further and helping others to learn the art of offroading in a safe environment. Please make sure your Carnity user profile is always updated with all the latest Emergency contact details. P.S. Trip lead might deny your participation if you don't have required off-road gear. FEWBIE PLUS Drives Attended (Indicative) Minimum 10 Fewbie drives are required within last 6 months for Fewbie Plus promotion. What you'll learn Advance dune and sand reading Advance recovery techniques Rocking and crawling to make path Learn to flatten/compact soft sand patch Self recovery from crest Advance side sloping and long hill climb Advance ridge riding and criss crossing Advance control over technical dunes Slightly faster pace desert driving FULLY control and avoid fishtailing Never fight or challenge gravity Skills required Enthusiastic and positive attitude Willingness to learn and help others Extremely attentive and focused while driving Car Worthiness Any 4x4 vehicle with low range gearing Suitable approach and departure angle Bash plate and skid plate protected Off-road gear required Safety flag, tire deflator, tire pressure gauge, shovel, fire extinguisher, medical kit, radio (walkie-talkie), air compressor. Drive teamwork Manage second lead and sweep positions upon request Intuitive and proactive to support Trip Lead Observe recoveries and offer help, when needed Drive Joining Join Newbie, Fewbie and Fewbie Plus drives Forum participation Active participation on the forum Share drive experience + feedback Share drive pictures in the gallery Post trip report after the drive

Congratulations @Werno for reaching the Fewbie Plus Level with Carnity Offroad Club. Looking forward to seeing you growing further and helping others to learn the art of offroading in a safe environment. Please make sure your Carnity user profile is always updated with all the latest Emergency contact details. P.S. Trip lead might deny your participation if you don't have required off-road gear. FEWBIE PLUS Drives Attended (Indicative) Minimum 10 Fewbie drives are required within last 6 months for Fewbie Plus promotion. What you'll learn Advance dune and sand reading Advance recovery techniques Rocking and crawling to make path Learn to flatten/compact soft sand patch Self recovery from crest Advance side sloping and long hill climb Advance ridge riding and criss crossing Advance control over technical dunes Slightly faster pace desert driving FULLY control and avoid fishtailing Never fight or challenge gravity Skills required Enthusiastic and positive attitude Willingness to learn and help others Extremely attentive and focused while driving Car Worthiness Any 4x4 vehicle with low range gearing Suitable approach and departure angle Bash plate and skid plate protected Off-road gear required Safety flag, tire deflator, tire pressure gauge, shovel, fire extinguisher, medical kit, radio (walkie-talkie), air compressor. Drive teamwork Manage second lead and sweep positions upon request Intuitive and proactive to support Trip Lead Observe recoveries and offer help, when needed Drive Joining Join Newbie, Fewbie and Fewbie Plus drives Forum participation Active participation on the forum Share drive experience + feedback Share drive pictures in the gallery Post trip report after the drive

I recently got an old Canon 35mm film camera from a colleague who was planning to throw it in the ban. It sparked the interest to get some film rolls again and head out to the streets. I am particularly interested in monochrome street photography, but can't seem to find B&W film rolls anymore. Even Amazon only seems to have some generic Kodak colour film. @sertac and other analogue guys, any idea where to buy some Kodak T-Max or Tri-X ? I remember long time back shooting in color, scanning it, and reverting it to monochrome on the PC, but this process loses a lot of the original quality and contrast.

Thank you Doc! Thank you @Lakshmi Narasimhan Thank you @Islam Soliman

Congrats @Nathan Evans!

Congrats @Nithin Vaidir!

Thanks Angela looking forward 👍✔️

Thank you for responding dear friends @hasan hamadeh @Haris Javed @Clay Neddo @sachin suvarna @Roy Armale @Marwan Haddad Keep looking for more notifications by Thursday. Whenever possible please see the newbie video to keep the basics in mind, it comes with some practice as you drive along but always better to be informed. Please ensure your car is in the best of conditions as summer in blazing and cars tend to heat up pretty quickly. @arjumand and @Simon Ducos awaiting your response for Do you have any prior off-road experience? Does your vehicle has front and rear tow hooks / eyelets in good working condition.? Without front and rear tow hooks/eyelets or recovery points in good conditions you will not be allowed to join the drive.

@Wade Pat2 @Fabien Monleau @Thomas Varghese @Gok Krish You are all confirmed for the drive. Looks life we will have a short convoy, which is going to be a lot of fun. The plan is set out from Murquab, get to the track which is cut in between technical area. We can drive with a good pace through the track. Once we are across the murquab section, we will move to lisaily, where we find some nice long dunes and practice ridge riding until sunset. After sunset we shall drive to Solar Park which will be the end point for the drive. Looking forward to have a nice drive with you all. Indeed @Chaitanya D😃

@Frederic I popped into the store below to look at the R6 and noticed they had anologue gear also .. hth whilst waiting for the pro’s to reply https://bhmstore.com/169-darkroom-equipment

Well done @Nithin Vaidir !!

Congrats @Werno ! Get ready for some Sweihan Sweets coming Friday !

Well deserved @Nathan Evans !! Keep rocking !

Congratulations @Werno

Thank you Hisham

Well done @Nathan Evans!

Bravo @Nathan Evans !

Bravo @Werno

Yes @Ale Vallecchii think morning drive is much more safe than afternoon. In case of any case of stuck, or any requirement to be in the sun, more temperature and sweating might cause sunstroke, at least for few months 👍👍👍

Thank you @Gaurav and team. Looking forward to growing and learning more.

Dear @Chaitanya D I have a Nissan Pathfinder R51 2008 SE model with 2" Lift Kit. I have been off-roading but I am not a Professional. Front and Rear Tow Hooks are Stock. If needed I could Get Two D-Ring Shackles. I Agree to Covid Precautions. I do not have the Deflator Kit, Compressor, Flag and Walkie Talkie. I intend to Purchase it tomorrow from Dragon Mart. I hope this helps. Thanks. BR Vikas

Yeah that's one of my concern too, but I see that the roof lighting can cover wider range. Anyways I already did my purchase of 20inches, going to have it fixed on bumper now and will test it on nearby sand later tonight. I am going to install it either on the bar where the number plate holder is fixed on, or the bar right below the front grill, neither of the options should affect the air intake. lets see.

Congrats @Werno

@Werno congratulations, well done. Bring on the next level

@Nathan Evans congratulations, you are an epitome to challenge with that beautiful Jimny of yours. Fantastico 👍🙏

Thanks Abdul Thanks Gaurav

@Ale Vallecchi I need to withdraw my RSVP, and will remove myself from the list - enjoy the drive and hope to join soon!

Congrats @Werno!

Hi Hisham. This time I was thinking of starting at 4pm. Let's see if that's OK, or should shift to AM (perhaps not too early, but still with cooler temps).

Hi @Hisham Masaad rec'd the board thanks to @Thomas Varghese for collect it for me. Thanks a lot, I was trying to find one for last one month ...and it just fits perfectly in my Jeep boot under the mat slot. Cheers

Glad to hear you were able to get your issues resolved @Ale Vallecchi, I'm looking forward to next week.

My light doesn't reflect from the bonnet not produces much whistling sound. For a light bar, bumper maybe considered a better option for the installation as it doesn't interfere with the air flow into the engine. I choose the overhead installation as I was afraid these big lights may disrupt a part of the airflow into the engine bay. Be careful not to hit any steps inside the desert for your light bar to take the aerial route.

Hey man the common observation with installing it on the roof is that the lights reflect on the bonnet which is annoying/can be distracting on night drives. And some have commented that there is increased buffeting/wind noise if installed on the roof when going down SZR! So maybe the bumper is the preferred option...

That's the fun. The feeling you get when your skid plate rams the ridge and you feel the jolts transmitting through the chassis to the body. Why do you want to miss that? I love that.

hello, I have full kit but no prior experience. Looking forward to meeting all.

Waitlist 1 @Rizwanm2 (2nd drive) 2. @Thomas Varghese(2nd drive) 3. @Abdul Rahman AK(2nd drive) 4 @Mario Cornejo (2nd drive) @varunmehndirattayoi are in, can you please confirm ASAP

The bumper would be my preferred spot for a 20 inches bar.

I have bought a 20inch LED light bar tonight and will have it installed tomorrow. Just wondering where should I install it? I have seen ppl put the light bar on the lower bumper and ppl put the light bar on the roof. Any suggestions? I'd prefer it on the bumper only because installing on bumper is easier and I wouldnt mind having holes on the bumper.

@Christopher Assal I decided to install a Kill Switch in my car (Nissan Patrol Y61) because: - ABS would kick in frequently, for example when stopping to maintain distance with the car in front, to avoid an obstacle, when crossing over a crest and heading down a slope, etc. This scenario led many times to a situation where the ABS light would remain on for a long period even after the drive. - I used to pull out the ABS fuse, but this would disable the VDC switch, the speedometer and the odometer. The mechanic who installed the Kill Switch did it in a way that disables ABS only and would not affect the other gauges, he also checked there were no diagnostic trouble codes. The VDC is something I can control in my car, I feel the car runs better when I disable it, and I only enable it if I am attempting recovery from a stuck in 4H. In the Patrol when you engage 4L and Diff Lock then ABS and VDC will be disabled by default. The only fuse I remove is the airbag fuse, because I've heard of cases where the airbag could deploy if there is a frontal hit, and I've had quite a few already during drives. **Edit: a few frontal hits on the area where the bash plate is mounted 😅, usually the result of a miscalculation, speed, or wrong reading of terrain. My recommendation is you try, in your next drive, removing the ABS fuse and assess the performance of your car and if there is any effect in the speedometer and odometer, also check what light indicators turn on the dashboard when you disconnect the fuse and when you engage 4L. Depending on what you observe then you take a call whether to install or not a kill switch. Hope this helps!

It’s no surprise that cyber crime is on the rise varying between different kinds of ransomware attacks on individuals as well as large behemoth corporation despite of spending billions on their cyber defence but still proved ineffective in some occasions. FBI just announced recovery of millions of cryptocurrency that was paid in ransom to prevent shutdown of a key US pipeline company. I hope @Lakshmi Narasimhan you are not paying the price for this and the attackers are now coming after you in revenge of FBI success! Digital transformation comes with its own set of challenges; elevating the game higher and to some extent requires compromises on privacy, SPI guardrails, and exchange of confidential data. Financial services fraud is equally on the rise leveraging combination of cyber security breaches due to weak security frameworks, social intelligence breaches, and unfortunately inside jobs. I wish there is an easy answer to have a good night sleep, but unfortunately it’s a risk that we have to accept as individuals or businesses and sometime a price some of us have to sadly pay for the gains to quality of life and economy growth we all gain by embracing digital transformation. Some advises hopefully can help: - carefully choose who you bank with and only transact (specially online) with merchants using the highest available encryption technologies to make sure your data is not vulnerable. - Continuous change of your passwords/pin codes (every month or 2 max) is advisable and of course don’t use easy passwords or same passwords/pin across multiple platforms/cards. - Lots of attackers are able to mimic exact replicas of very known websites/merchants that you can’t tell any difference to the original websites and they know already you know these websites, you deal with them, and your trust them.. so most people will fall for it. The trick is the URL address they send you is going to be different from the original one, if you are not paying full attention you can easily fall for it. - Ensure SMS notification is setup for the correct phone number you always monitor to be on top and take immediate action against any suspicious transactions. - Stay vigilant with communication (phone, WhatsApp, emails, F2F,.. etc) as it’s found that most of the attacks starts by very “basic” social engineered phishing techniques that will not get any one suspicious until very late, but the information gathered by these techniques enable these attackers to have enough to empty your wallet sometime without leaving a single fingerprint behind!

DRIVE REPORT Dear Desert Wanderers, One of the facts about off-roading is that, no matter how well things may have been planned, drives are often happening in their own unpredictable way and with unexpected challenges. But that is one of the reasons why I like off-roading so much, because indeed when facing the unexpected one usually gets to see and live completely new situations and is called to adapt and react quickly to what is happening around. Yesterday's drive was one of those unpredictable drives, but for this exact reason was also a drive that I really loved. Everyone was extraordinarily on time, actually ahead of time, to the extend that we could hit the sand in advance (1st time ever in my drives, and this was already something unexpected..) There was something different in the air: everyone was happy, smiling and joking before departing and it reminded me of the feeling of the day those old times school trips, when everyone was excited by the upcoming "adventure". We moved by 6:57pm and we quickly made our way to the nearest tallest dune in the surroundings of 2nd December Cafeteria. The purpose was to get there just before 7:09pm and to have the chance to watch the sunset, but the horizon was too foggy and the sun unfortunately had faded away with no chance to see the red sky over the red dunes that I was hoping for. We then moved on the west side of Pink Rock, riding for a while along the mid-sized dunes and the rounded ridges alternated with sharp crests, in a short stint aimed at getting everyone progressively acquainted with the reduced light and then the darkness on one side and, on the other site, at checking the convoy's response to tune the drive level accordingly. As the sky became dark blue, we turned back towards Pink Rock, which the convoy easily climbed, enjoying a great view from the top, with a soft, warm wind blowing steadily at over 36°C of temperature. After crossing the pass, we headed along the eastern hillside, reaching the two spines of rocks that emerge from the sand on the south side of Pink Rock, which led us into an area of tall dunes and huge bowls where we started playing as we progressively gained altitude. It was at this point that @PaoloMaraziti, after having tried to resist probably too long, eventually surrendered to his motion sickness and asked the convoy to have a break. We stopped in a large elevated bowl, equally far from Tawi, 2nd December ad Al Badayer, with no easy and immediate way out to flat grounds nor an easy dirt track to exit. Despite the amazing support by everyone (including a pillow) and the fantastic care of everyone in the convoy, as it became evident that Paolo was in no condition not only to continue the drive but also to conduct his own vehicle to the nearest exit, it was decided that @Chaitanya D would take the driver's seat in Paolo's FJ Cruiser and, with a small convoy consisting of @Shaaz Sha, @M.Seidam and myself, to drive down to the lower grounds and from there to 2n December Road through the nearest flat track. On the face of it, it looked like an easy task, but Paolo was feeling so bad that we had to reroute and stop as needed, trying to find the smoothest way down so that our suffering friend could not get worse than he already was. Once we reached the tarmac, we agreed that Paolo would rest for a while to see if he would get well enough to drive or not. We quickly made our way back to the convoy, who had been waiting for quite some time in the bowl. From what I gather, while driving might have been preferable, a stop in the middle of nothing under a sky full of stars was anyway and enjoyable diversion for a short while. As we restarted, we progressively headed south, wandering around two subsequent areas with beautiful huge dunes and large bowls, where we really had fun, climbing as high as we could get and riding on top of as many round ridges we could find. After Paolo texted me that he was OK and safely driving back home, I could fully focus on leading, relieved. Everyone did well: a few (expected) stucks and refusals, largely self-recovered with the great support of @Shaaz Sha as Center Forward and @Chaitanya D as Sweep, who both surely and calmly guided everyone out of trouble. I can't say I saw much of what happened in the back, but I can say that, given the night driving conditions and the technical level of the drive, the convoy did very well last night. I had eyes only on my great second lead, @Thomas Varghese, who had a hard time in finding what was the right distance to keep from my back bumper to allow for enough enough space to compensate my sudden decelerations while figuring out which way to go and to avoid finding himself too far away so as to lose the benefit of seeing my lines and having his way lit up by my lights. A couple of crested situations and a small but deceiving pocket required tugging and winching, but overall Thomas did magnificently. @Russand @Werno followed smoothly in the convoy, as did @Alain Canivet-Abikhalil except for a deflated tire which required a quick air top up. @Shaaz Sha was literally running to support whenever needed: I was amazed by his enthusiasm and energy. I really didn't have a chance to see how @Darren Brooke, @Lakshmi Narasimhan, @Danish Mohammaddid at the back, but from what I gathered while chatting at the exit point, they had their good part of challenges and fun, as did @GauravSoni and @M.Seidam. The latter - on top of the rest - got to enjoy the °night chase run° on our way back from the tarmac back to the convoy after we left Paolo and I pushed a bit, while @Chaitanya D, to whom I'm thankful for the great help, was my passenger. We eventually made our exit at Al Badayer intersection on the E44 Hatta Road by 10:55pm, a good hour later than planned, but, having received unanimous consent to extend the drive a bit more, we all exited with plenty of good memories of the night, above all (surely for me) the good feeling of belonging to a great off-road club, @Carnity, where solidarity, teamwork, patience and understanding are championed, as Paolo's story demonstrated yesterday. We drove approx. 35km (with another 10km to lead Paolo out) with an average moving speed of 16.9km/h (maybe a bit less excluding the detour to the tarmac) with, most notably, an ascent of +315/-280m which tells about how much we climbed and descended throughout the drive. Congratulations to everyone for another great drive and see you soon in the sand, especially @PaoloMaraziti, who has even a doctor's prescription to go off-road!!

Isn't pre-approved transactions are of small amount of 200 or 500 dhs max? Like the fuel station billing never needed a PIN...? Moral of the story: Spend all your money faster, before scammer takes it away.