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Welcome Antonio. Getting stuck and coming out is part of the offroading fun. Look forward to meeting you in the Sand.

Hey there, this is an absolute newbie with a 4x4 and if you don't mind I would love to join you for the first time this Friday. I'll put all my effort to respect, learn and not get stuck and delay you guys. I appreciate the efforts and time of all club members in advance. Looking forward to meet you all. Antonio

Here it is the full drive

Getting stuck is where the fun starts @vsmano. See you on Friday 😉

Welcome @vsmano to Carnity and Its offroad club, this drive will be perfect for absolute newbies.

Let's see what our offroaders have to say for this stuck......? You can post any of your stuck or someone else stuck or even youtube stuck to discuss and learn Stuck 2.mp4

My dad had a garage after he worked for Ford, GM, etc. so I grew up in the car assembly lines and all my life saw how cars were put together, fixed or modified. Back home I used to do modifications and maintenance to my cars like installing turbos or changing the brake pads, etc. but here I only do some minor mods. I don't have time now after work or weekends when I have to do all the honeydos. I do have a computer so I if there is something wrong I can check it out myself and maybe repair it if it's not very time consuming.

Oil Changes no, because no place, too messy and too much faff to get rid of the used oil. Not that I haven't done it, but just not worth it. Have a specific LR diagnostic tool, not very advanced but not basic like an OBD either, been very helpful. I've done ECUs, Fuseboxes, rewiring,electrical, mechanical engine and drive train, interior and body. But automatic transmissions is where I call it quits and would call a professional.

It looks as if he encountered one or two serious bumps on that ascend, which made him lose the momentum a bit. The sand indeed looks very soft.

I think he had not enough momentum to go to the top of the dune There was a sand pocket that made him lost even more momentum I remember we could not even make it to the low part of the dune with the momentum we had I think that he hesitated to give more gas and steer right once the car sank

@edouard. Wowwwww.

What are you into? Do you like to do your own oil changes? Do you have a basic diagnostic computer to read fault codes so you can do basic electrical repairs? What do you do and what level are you prepared to take it to? When do you say stop, I need a garage? Im all for people repairing their own cars. My internet life revolves around offering repair information but most people don’t understand it, they just want to find the cheapest garage available.

Thanks for the warm welcome @Frederic, @Gaurav & @Srikumar, I'll do my best but it's going to be my first time touching the sand and my little driving experience is totally the opposite (eco-rallies and endurance with hybrid cars). See you all on Friday

I have signed up for both and I too am good to be in any one if them

Yes you need to be a legend to approach another legend 😂 Just kidding, you need to be Expert member and above to unlock PM from what i've seen.

Still better than the service manual of panamera it's 45000 pages of crazy things heard that Boeing manual has 50k pages....

@desertdude On a lighter note, here are the overview on the number of pages from the manual which comes with Prado. 327 pages for Navigation Manual, 764 Pages for User Manual & 160 Pages for Off road Manual - Total 1251 pages which is equivalent to my Master Degree Syllabus/Curriculum. Missing those days seriously. 😩

Good input @Javier M and thanks for sharing the full-length video to get these little cuts for learning Let's see what others have to say more......!

Start with reading the owners manual first.

The “wow” is actually for @edouard ... who opened this very good thread

@Emmanuel Wow. That covers my query in detail. Thanks.

See if you love this Gen2 Pajero for any reason, old memory, old love, some soft corner then go ahead and buy and live with it and you will enjoy it. If Gen2 Pajero is just another beater 4x4 then stay away from this, as they get pricey very quickly due to Mitsubishi expensive spare parts, long wait for some special spare parts due to unavailability. Buying a 10 years old Xterra is better than 20 years old Pajero (older engineering), that require a lot of money to bring it back to the suitable state for weekend warrior - suspension, steering, engine, AC, engine cooling, transmission. I remember spending tons on engine cooling when I first bought it. On road - no heating, engage 4x4 and within 5 mins it starts heating up. You just can't buy this 20-year-old Pajero for 8-10K and straight into the desert for the next 1 year. You might have to spend 5-10k more to bring it to 100% usable strength for offroad so it can take a weekend bashing.

UPDATE: Work on this finally began 2 days ago. The mechanic started by draining the oil and to his surprise, this is what greeted him: I got a call from him informing me about this creamy discovery. I then reminded him about using Liqui Moly Ceratec during the time I was throwing everything at the car hoping something sticks (or un-stick the sticky lifters...) but apparently seeing the actual oil still startled him. I assured him that this is normal and I even sent him videos of Ceratec users showing their oil mixed with Ceratec which were similar to the above. They then finally opened the valve covers yesterday and confirmed that it was indeed the lifters causing the noise as almost all have collapsed and all other parts looked ok. He explained that this is a classic case of neglected maintenance in which the previous owner probably used cheap oil or didn't perform oil change at proper intervals (or both). So next step is parts sourcing which was supposedly done yesterday as well and should be going in by evening. I will get an update later this afternoon so here's hoping that it is done by then.

I do my own oil chnages, although recently got the garage to do the major oil change. I wanted a garage to check my car and make sure an expert eye catches any issues that I have missed. I also find re-filling heavy gear oil a messy procedure, and also transmission oil. But I have changed spark plugs, installed a front diff locker, rebuilt a BMW Vanos, brake calipers, as some of my more complex jobs. At times when I pressed for time I will give the car to the garage, but wouldn't mind doing more, but work gets in the way.Nothing more relaxing than a stripped bolt to remove.

Back home, I used to do my own oil changes and brake pads because i was too broke/lazy to go to a workshop. Basic electric repairs, minor upgrades, and diagnosis is something i am comfortable doing. I used to install high-end audio equipment in cars back in the days when i was younger lad. My expertise is mainly in industrial electronics/mechanics/automation stuff. Which unfortunately does not apply too much to cars But hey, common sense goes a long way !

Periodically check your spare Tyre. Recently in one of my cars I had a flat and when I checked the spare Tyre (which had not been used for the last 10 years), I realised that was flat as well. 😋

I must admit that I was too lazy to go through the privileges of each new Carnity rank, but I just noticed that I can no longer send a private message to @Barry anymore. Do I have to have Legendary status to send private messages now?

Honestly, I don't see the purpose of a PM in a public forum, as I can personally state that I have been receiving plenty of queries on the PM which should have originally been on the forum. By discussing on the forum you get multiple views plus the information is useful for someone in the future. I don't have PM access either, and I am kinda glad I don't.

These days I only check fluid levels, and then only the ones I don't have to use tools for. I'm fine with pulling out a dip stick or unscrewing a radiator cap, and I will even look at the brake fluid and windscreen washer fluid level since both these containers are transparent, but for anything else I will take my cars to one of my erstwhile competitors.

Do we need to take any special care if the the car has been to desert? Reason for my query is, yesterday when i open bonnet of my prado i saw lot of sand everywhere. Im worried if that needs any special attention or only regular wash including engine bay wash is ok to get over the sand.

@vanhack long time no hear buddy. Great to have you back. My respect to all who do their own jobs on cars. My dad used to be with quick cabs back in Karachi Pakistan and had his eyes on the workshop. So he used to be very knowledgeable about cars, he passed on some of it to me. As a result I do all the regular checks. I started my drive life with a very basic Honda Civic and I changed the air filter, spark plugs and even the mechanical fuel pump. So I'm into very basic stuff and not comfortable with things which take longer time and use too many tools.

Scary!!

What will be the right price for this vehicle if in case all is well and odo is not tampered with. Also let me know if their is anything specific i need to check to ensure its worth trying.

It's not on Saturday, this drive is on Friday

@syedyaseer there 's Pajero 3.0 SWB 2000 for sale here on Carnity:

Just like to mention, that timing is 6:30AM and not 7:00 like previous drives.

After buying 10k ride and spending 5 -7 k for mods and overhauling, better to buy 20k Xterra, in stock condition it can outperform most of the capable 4x4.

Naah, don't do that strength doest multiply in metal like this that 4x2=8 Drive it for now and when this gets bad hit or deform, change it to 6/8 mm.

@Frederic your efforts and thoughtfulness is much appreciated. We would love to have you on either drive.

I've signed up for the Absolute Newbie and Newbie Level drive. With all the new members that joined the last couple of weeks it might be good for me to get to know them as i've been away for a while. At the same time would gladly assist in recoveries, popouts, or other. Hope that is fine.

It's low hanging fruit so to put a bashplate was a good idea. But welding it in place, not so much.

Here’s how we solved the problem

And if you have the patience drive at 90-100 km per hour. You will get really good mileage. On my Pajero 3.8 LWB, I get a mileage of 10.5 - 11 litre per 100 km when I drive in a relaxed manner

If your spare Tyre is located below the vehicle it's a single tank. If it's on the rear door it's a double tank

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