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Dear badayer visitors, @Jona @Pacific @Patrick van der Loo @Sunil Mathew @Bashar Beasha @Tareq Al Turq @Krishna R @Amir Amiri @Rob S @Mohamad Anwer @Simon D @DP1011 @Senthil Kumar @Looper Look forward to see you tomorrow morning. Below is the convoy order. We will be on channel 2.

Guys in the front dont forget I am driving a pajero in the back ... just FYI 😅🤣

@Hisham Masaad You and @Mohamad Anwer will have to try hard to give me Churned tracks😂, But for someone having 12 people infront , finding NON churned track will be key task😂😂. Badayer - IM- 15 people, last 3-4 people should get special certificates🙌🏼🙌🏼😅.

Thank you, everyone, for signing up for this great family get-together to welcome winter (finally). We will use Radio Channel 4 for the whole group coordination. Final gathering point: https://maps.app.goo.gl/fp3VzVTzKUdXbgXG9 All cars will start from the meeting point and reach to gathering point. People who like to drive for an hour can do the regular deflation of 12-14 PSI. People who like to stay at gathering point with family and kids can deflate to 20 PSI. Once all cars are assembled at the gathering point, we will make convoys accordingly and go for a quick spin. Those convoys will use different radio frequencies. @Dan S @Mohammad Sayawoush Azad @Abhilash Kottakkal @Rafey Hashmi @AnasArif @Nadeem Ansari @Sreenath G @Karthik_LC200 @Pavel Pashkovskiy @Bjoern @Premjit Vappala @Ishak @Mahesh_ @Krishna R @Looper @Ranjan Das @Mostafa Nasef @essam ibrahim @Benjamin @Gary F @Nathan @sohinik @SamBha @Faraz94 @Osama M @Yahir Marban @Salim Akhtar @M.Seidam @Dodi Syahdar @Arravind @ARS @Srikumar @Chaitanya D @DP1011 @Melenany

We will make the tracks smoother bro

I will create some tracks for you guys at the back, don't worry 😀

what about you @DP1011?

What a fantastic line up!! Have a good sleep @Sunil Mathew @Senthil Kumar @Pacific😅😉

Thank you very much @DP1011i appreciate your offer, you are STAR. but maybe I will join in another time. 😊 Thanks again 😘😘😘😘

And the car is on the way, I am IN 100% now @Hisham Masaad @Issam Atra My passenger seat is still available😅

Hi Deno! Good to see another solid mountain driving fan around. I wanted to highlight a couple of points outside/alongside what has been mentioned already: Steep climbs should always be done in tiptronic and either locked in 1st or 2nd depending on the grade. Personally I like a very gentle climb in 1st, 4H (no lock) and just trundle up. This is effective when you're on a well maintained track that also has a lot of switchbacks. Important to note: Having it in any difflocking mode when you're on a switchback route will cause "hopping" as the locked differential will not allow differing tyre rotation speeds. It'll also really piss off your diff and can be dodgy if you're on a steep switchback descent (there's an interesting one in the Jebel Yibr area..steep enough that part of it is line-textured concrete as I believe it heads to another military installation) Although we're all fans of the Pajero TC system, certain trails around the UAE have some differing terrain at a high incline with well developed hollows/dips. As mentioned by Gaurav, fine gravel mixed with sand on a compacted surface is probably the most irritating thing you can encounter if the route is poorly maintained/damaged/filled with hollows. In this situation, it is acceptable to get 4Llc going and to lock the rear differential to turn off the TC (dune riders will generally have a killswitch installed). In the majority of situations you don't want the TC to be off, partially because the Pajero system is highly effective, and partially because you might damage the trail further for people behind you in your convoy. However..when you've exhausted your options - Guide Assisting, 4Hlc, 4Llc, in that order specifically - it's time to get a bit more aggressive. At this point you need to make sure your guide is standing at a decent distance and ensure he/she is always uphill of you. Come at it with a little more speed (A LITTLE ONLY!) and when you think you're about to hit that hollow prepare yourself to give the pedal a little more pressure as soon as you're into it. As you're locked into tiptronic you should have a quick engine response and 9/10 all it needs is a bit more cojones. If that fails try again and aim to turn slightly (remember, locked diffs! Tyre rotation is locked!) towards the mountain, never towards the drop, to try and steal some traction from the edges of the hollow that haven't been worn as much by previous drivers. It's gonna get noisy, and you run the risk of widening the hollow, but sometimes you just gotta conquer that bastard and get through

CHAMPIONS ONBOARDING STARTED...!

So @Davie ChaseYou sent the invite to only jeepers?

Gotcha, thanks for the advice Frederic! I'll try and throw some pictures up when it's all done.

Great ! 90% of our drives are in the sand, but we do the occasional wadi run and head out into the mountains if the weather is pleasant enough. I would def not go beyond 2 or 2.5inch. First there is no need, and secondly the center gravity would be affected too much. In sand we are very mindful of this to keep the original center of gravity, so that means whenever we lift, we will make sure we widen our footprint as well, either with spacers, or rims with different offset.

Skidplates is a good plan, i'll mention those to him and probably look at it a bit myself. I think he was looking to change the rims, I'll let him know of the suggestion to drop it down to the 17" and amp up the tyre depth! I assume that the 2" lift will likely be enough? Any more than that will start to get a bit extreme, though 3" is a possibility. The SPAL cooling is something that I hadn't considered at all and would probably help me out a bunch too. Yea we run a little deflation depending where we're headed. We know of a great spot in Oman that has one hell of a gorge to drive through and reach, so once the mods are done we'll be heading over there to gauge who we could likely take there too. I'll keep an eye out for the group drive! Would be interesting to come along and see what you guys all get up to.

Welcome aboard and thank you for faith in you and me. Btw if u have not completed participation form in main DCT post please do so

Its been a while Mr Hisham. Don't think ive dropped out of one of your drives and have zero intention of doing so this weekend. Sorry Waitlist . . . . . . im IN, YALLA PUSH.

Welcome to Carnity @JamesBY ! The Pajero 3.8 is a fantastic off-road vehicle for many purposes and for driving in the mountains it can indeed benefit from the following: - Bashplate and perhaps some added skid plates underneath to protect vital components. - Good All-terrain tyres. Would not recommend to change the size of the tyres itself, as it's the 3.8 you have 18inch rims so you are limited already, unless you plan to change the rims then a 17inch rim with 265/70/17 would be nice. -2 inch lift kit will give you a bit of extra clearance, which could be helpful in navigating boulders. If you head out in the mountains in summer, the additional SPAL cooling fan for the transmission is definitely recommended, and during low creeping speed you will start to face overheating soon. In those scenarios it's better to be at home anyways The Pajero has indeed a great traction control system for the mountains, so no need for a kill switch. Deflate to around 25psi when you head into the mountains, it will increase traction significantly and dampen the bumps a bit as well. In the winter we have the occasional wadi / scenic drive with the club, so would be great if you could join us. Take care !

transmission radiator fan to stop overheating on hot slow days where not enough airflow goes over the appropriate radiator. and heaps of lights to look cool 😎

With this much cars, looks we need to pull

I am in INSHALLAH

Congratulations @Rafey Hashmi well done !!

Dear badayer visitors, @Jona @Pacific @Patrick van der Loo @Sunil Mathew @Bashar Beasha @Bjoern @Tareq Al Turq @Krishna R @Amir Amiri @Rob S @Mohamad Anwer @Simon D @DP1011 @Senthil Kumar @Looper Requesting all to confirm joining or not, considering the long waitlist we have. Regards

Hello. Interested to join 🙋‍♂️ EDIT: Joining team Looper. Good luck guys.

So now you know for sure that fully inflated tires are the actual root cause of the struggle and stressing the car unnecessarily in Low gear. The ideal mountain deflation is 20 - 25 PSI. In general, 25 PSI is perfect for loose gravel and 20 PSI when that loose gravel turn to fine gravel and slips your tires on every turn. A slightly more deflated tire will hold the traction better in those instances. However, if you go below 20 PSI then you risk getting tire cut with sharp rocks or angle, so always start with 25 PSI in HLC and work your way up in the mountain. In steeper climbs, when you feel that pressing too much throttle is not resulting in the same speed, then you can switch to LO gear for that struggling patch or incline and go back to HLC once done. Also, LO gear is very good for coming downhill as Gaurav Soni mentioned, that takes a lot of load from your brakes and does not eat the brake pad after one descent. The only catch is to keep your speed lower than 40 kmph in Low gear and you will be fine.

In the UAE, we have a myriad of terrains to choose from when it comes to desert driving. For many new members who might be asking themselves what the differences actually are, I wanted to compile the most known areas we drive in, and give some information about the area and what you can expect when you join a drive with us in that area. We will be focusing on the sand driving. Northern Emirates (UAQ and RAK) Umm Al Quwain and Ras Al Khaimah have some very nice areas that we often explore, with plenty of vegetation, wildlife, and the mountains are never far away. On these drives, the emphasis is more on exploration than on the typical dune bashing. Scenic Score: 95% Excitement Score: 70% Versatility Score: 95% Fossil Rock - Faya - Sharjah From the moment you drive on the Sharjah - Kalba road, you'll see the majestic Fossil Rock mountain on the right hand side. It has got its name due to the ancient fossils that you can find on the rocks, and the surrounding red dunes are a delight to drive. Usually starting from Batayeh-Faya road, the dunes gradually go from small and bushy until you reach the nice open areas with "The Long Lady" as one of the most popular dunes to showcase and practice your sidesloping skills. The cherry on top is the climb on Fossil Rock itself which provides an amazing scenic view on the area and Mleiha town below. A must for every beginner level driver ! To even up the challenge you can take on the nice bowls behind Fossil Rock, or head out to Faya which is also called "The Saddle". Scenic Score: 90% Excitement Score: 70% Versatility Score: 90% Pink Rock - Big Red - Sharjah Nearby Fossil Rock, you will find Pink Rock, which got its name from the pinkish hue the rocks have. This very popular off-road area is known for the smooth gentle dunes at the start that gradually move to challenging bowls nearby the base of Pink Rock. Climbing Pink Rock is the ideal challenge for beginners and provides a fantastic view as well. From Pink Rock you can head out to Big Red which will up the challenge and entice every level of off-roader. The Big Red area is an off-roader hotspot during the season. Scenic Score: 80% Excitement Score: 70% Versatility Score: 75% Bidayer / Area 53 / Schuwaib - Sharjah This area is not for the faint of heart, and the big dunes will demand you to keep momentum at all times, while the massive hills such as Iftar Bowl and Super Bowl are ultimate play areas one can find in Sharjah. This area tends to be extremely busy during the offroad season. Scenic Score: 60% Excitement Score: 80% Versatility Score: 65% Margham / Lahbab - Dubai A little less known area, but very versatile with nice technical areas, playable bowls, and overall a terrain where any level offroader can practice and hone their skills without encountering too many cross tracks. Scenic Score: 70% Excitement Score: 70% Versatility Score: 75% Murquab - Lisaili - Faqa - Dubai This area is located on the Dubai-Al Ain road and offers so much. From technical terrain, to the arboretum in Faqa, long range dunes in both Faqa and some areas of Lisaili, and the most amazing creamy dunes below the Maktoum Solar Park which we have now called "Little Sweihan". This area never disappoints and there is a reason we have it on our weekly drives schedules ! Scenic Score: 85% Excitement Score: 80% Versatility Score: 95% Al Qudra - Dubai Al Qudra has become one of the most well known Offroad areas in Dubai, mainly due to the close vicinity to the city, but also because of its versatility, nearby facilities (Last Exit, Love Lakes), and the wildlife than can be spotted while off-roading (gazelles, oryx). This area stretches out to Murquab in the East via Al Hathmah area, on to Faqa going South below the Solar Park, and up to the Bab al Shams resort in the West. Scenic Score: 85% Excitement Score: 75% Versatility Score: 95% Sweihan - Abu Dhabi / Al Ain The Sweihan area in Abu Dhabi has to be experienced, and the proximity to Dubai brings lots of Dubai residents to Sweihan to explore the massive long range dunes and versatile area that has something in store for every off-roader. Sweihan never disappoints and the Nagrah area which alternates between monstrous dunes and deserted sabkhas will leave you hungry for more every single time. Scenic Score: 80% Excitement Score: 90% Versatility Score: 95% Al Khatim - Abu Dhabi A very popular and versatile offroader destination for Abu Dhabi residents with exhilarating dunes and technical areas that will challenge any offroader. Scenic Score: 80% Excitement Score: 90% Versatility Score: 80% Wagan / Umm Al Oash / Bu Tais - Abu Dhabi / Al Ain In search for monstruous dunes where momentum and pace are critical and where your vehicle will be pushed to its limit ? You have come to the right place as this area is spoiled with massive dunes, alternated by long flat sabkhas where you can get your bearings back before heading in again, and again ! Scenic Score: 95% Excitement Score: 100% Versatility Score: 80% Liwa Madinat Zayed - Abu Dhabi The Madinat Zayed area is famous for its Yellow Water Truck, which was left behind many years back, but no-one really knows how it got there. This area is consisting of massive dunes, and you can easily scale the level up or down in this area based on the convoy you bring there. From this place onwards and further down south into Liwa Crescent you will feel like you are on a different planet. Scenic Score: 90% Excitement Score: 100% Versatility Score: 90% Liwa Crescent - Abu Dhabi Seeing LIWA for the first time will leave you astonished, baffled, and beyond comprehension. From Himeem in the East, to Khanoor in the West, this whole area is filled with some of the biggest dunes on this planet, massive slipfaces that will make you shiver when descending, and extremely technical dunes that will require your utmost focus. This area is unforgettable and every off-roader should have this on his bucket list ! Scenic Score: 100% Excitement Score: 100% Versatility Score: 100%

Sorry guys, got sick and need to drop out. Have a great drive!