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Dear friends Wait list @munkybizness @Muhammad Qasim @Gertjan @Davie Chase @Belal Aldaour i have added you all to the drive

Dear Friends @Rsjiv Samuel, @ShereenMK, @MMansoor, @Josh T., @Charbel, @siddharth maheshwari, @Javier Lucero And @Sunil Mathew Thank you for joining the drive this afternoon , a goodbye one 2021 , for us and hope for the best toward 2022 Supporting this Drive will be @Russ connecting us firmly 😉. In the Sweep will be @Pacific my eye in the rare . we will be communicating at radio channel 1 Convoy number : can’t wait to see you all sharp at 15:30 please . Let’s give it a final blast 😄 my cell is 0554045278 in case of emergency cheers 🙏

DTC: The Winners' Route - Drive Report "Destroy your reputation. I have tried prudent planning long enough. From now on I will be mad" - Rumi Following the first Carnity's DTC, on the wings of my disappointment for a not brilliant finish, and following my own analysis and self-criticism of that drive's dynamics, I had promised myself to engage in more technical drives, as opposed to what may have become my signature long range drives. The latter tend to shy away from technical areas, while the former measure one's driving skills on a whole different scale, where finesse and control are much more important than raw speed and fast lines. Hence, what better opportunity than a very competent Intermediate convoy, to go back to the scene of the crime, and relive the action, looking for a different outcome , at least from the chronometer point of view, while following the route blazed by the DTC Champion Richard @Wrangeld? So we did. We set out to follow as close an itinerary as Richard's, from Waypoint 1 to 5, driving, as Gaurav mentioned, "as the crow flies", and ditching my Desert Wolves team's track, originally designed to be longer, yet supposedly more open, less technical, thus faster. The specific DTC route also had the benefit of a prequel and a sequel drive: the first to reach the DTC's starting point from the Solar Park meeting point, and the second to get back from the DTC's finish line to Qudra, via Solar Park. The prequel was meant to work as a warm up, and the sequel as a cooling down. These two drives within the drive were as fun for me as any other drive I had had in quite some time. The nature of the convoy allowed us to make phenomenally good time during both segments. We drove the first part, to reach the DTC starting point in 24 minutes, covering 13.6 Km at a speed of 33 Km/h, without any stops. The third segment of the day, from the DTC's finish line to Qudra lasted 1:42 hours, covering 43.3 Km, at an average moving speed of 31Km/h (and was cut short by a mechanical issue of Archibald's Jeep). Once reached the DTC starting point the convoy lined up alternating IM's with Support Team members as, s follows: @Sunil Mathew in SL, followed by @marks, @Archibald Jurdi, @Gok Krish, @JeromeFJ, @Rawad, @Lawrence_Chehimi, @Amir Amiri, and @Dodi Syahdar in Sweep. Getting right to the performance, these were our own private DTC stats: 33 Km driven, in 1:08 hour, at and average of 30 Km/h. The 3 reasons for this phenomenal drive were, in order of importance: A - We followed a pre-scouted route, blazed by Richard, with a strategy that not only 1) exploited Richard's familiarity with the area (driven in support of many of Gaurav's Leaders Lead sessions), and 2) his expertise in technical driving, but also 3) his choosing to discard prudent planning, and go for the most daring, and challenging track. With this in mind, I would like to make a diversion from the report, and highly recommend each new Leader in the Club (present and future ones), to always scout the location of a lead, if you have not been there before. Just looking at maps is not enough: before taking a convoy in an unknown area, there is no substitute for a recce drive (with other advisors, or higher ranked members). It will insure the success and complete safety of the drive. B - The convoy drove perfectly, with the utmost concentration and display of skills, recording only 1 quickly sorted refusal throughout the whole route. C - looking at Richard's recorded track, and considering the quality of the convoy, we managed to cut a couple of corners, from Waypoint 2 to 3, and from 3 to 4, straightening a couple of curvy lines that Richard was evidently forced to take, further reducing the driving time. In the end, I'd like to thank the convoy members for such a fun day out in the desert, like I hadn't had in while. Looking forward to always more challenging drives, I wish all of Carnity a great Holiday Season, and a brilliant New Year.

Congratulations @Imran Kashif for reaching the Fewbie Level with Carnity Offroad Club. Looking forward to seeing you growing further and helping others to learn the art of offroading in a safe environment. Please make sure your Carnity user profile is always updated with all the latest Emergency contact details. P.S. Trip lead might deny your participation if you don't have required off-road gear. FEWBIE Drives Attended (Indicative) Minimum 5 Newbie drives are required within last 3 months for Fewbie promotion. What you'll learn Basic dune and sand reading Self-recovery techniques Shoveling at right place Crawling out of difficult situations Blip Blip - Coordinate steering and gas control Basic side sloping and hill climb Basic ridge riding and criss crossing Basic control over technical dunes Slightly faster pace desert driving Ability to manage stuck/refusals with radio Learn to control and avoid fishtailing Never fight or challenge gravity Skills required Enthusiastic and positive attitude Willingness to learn and help others Presence of mind and attention to detail Car Worthiness Any 4x4 vehicle with low range gearing Suitable approach and departure angle Off-road gear required Safety flag, tire deflator, tire pressure gauge, shovel, fire extinguisher, medical kit, radio (walkie-talkie), air compressor. Drive teamwork Manage second lead and sweep positions upon request Intuitive and proactive to support Trip Lead Observe recoveries and offer help, when needed Drive Joining Join Newbie and Fewbie drives Forum participation Active participation on the forum Share drive experience + feedback Share drive pictures in the gallery Post trip report after the drive

Congratulations @Imran Kashif

Thanks @Gaurav Thanks all carnity team to give me confidence. It's pleasure to be promoted on Fewbie level 🙏🤗

Confirmed! Happy New Year. First drive of 2022 with all of you hope @M.Seidam will make it a challenging and a memorable one 🙃

Dear Friends RSVP @Karthik Raptor @Pierre de Maigret @Vaibhav @Ahmad Shaker @KAMALIO @Naim Aoun @KKIRAN @Waqas Parvez @Trekado @Simon Dawood Wait list @munkybizness @Muhammad Qasim @Gertjan @Davie Chase @Belal Aldaour The sunset of 2021 is approaching soon and by the dawn of 2022 split the sunrise 🌅 open I wish you all a happy ending and prosperous beginning. Goes with that I request all of you who is already in the RSVP as well as the wait list to confirm your participation in this drive 1/1/2022 afternoon . if any one from the RSVP is not sure please give way to the wait list guys. if all of you guys ( RSVP and wait list ) give a confirmation here on this thread of his coming I would accommodate all of you . Thank you @Kailas for your generous initiative and support.

Dear Desertanuts, @Mark D, @Mo., @Markus B, @Tareq Al Turq, @Justin Ng, @Nathan, @Harshad Ashraf, @Azeem M, @Quresh Motiwala, @Rajat Verma, @ASAD. and @JERINE_B, as mentioned in the body of the drive's post, just North of Badayer, West of Big Red, there is a slice of desert which is mostly left untouched by off-roaders, but is "inhabited" by locals, who raise camels, but mostly use it for their own crossings, as well as for falconry. It stretches from Lahbab, west toward Margham (to Skydive and nearby). It's made of a mix of open sand cordons, low technical areas, a small area of sand bowls (the closest to Badayer, where the sand turns from yellow to red), and some areas with more abundant vegetation. A small hidden gem to explore in a leisurely way. This is the locations and terrains that we'll explore this Friday. Considering the rather junior nature of this convoy, we will do our best to maintain a relaxing pace, and will do our best to give everyone the opportunity to become more and more familiar with the basic techniques of dunes' straight crossing, and side sloping. Hopefully we'll enjoy the view of some camels, gazelles, and perhaps falcons being trained. Please reach the meeting point a few minutes in advance of 7:00 am, to start deflating, mount your flags, and get prepared to start on time. I will announce the final convoy order and radio channel tomorrow evenig. In the meantime, enjoy the evening.

thanks @M.Seidam and support team for another super exciting drive. night drives are in a different league

@M.Seidam will be there God Willing. Thanks,

Congrats @Imran Kashif for the promotion to next level. It shows the club's confidence in the experience you gained. See you soon in your next level drives.

Congratulations @Imran Kashif well done

Dear @M.Seidam confirmed

Confirmed happy new year

@Pierre de Maigretconfirmed

Doc @M.Seidam - I'm confirmed if anybody drops out.

@M.Seidam, confirmed.

Happy New Year to all. @M.Seidam,Confirmed 👍. Thanks.

@M.Seidam I am willing to join the event. Please add me.

Hi @Pacific I'm sorry I have to remove you from the RSVP list of this drive as there are nine waitlist members ahead of you. Due to some bug (still fixing) system didn't move Charbel Ghattas automatically, so I have moved him in the drive just now, as he has the first priority of being the first - first drive waitlist. If you like you can waitlist your name by hitting the "Add Waitlist" tab. @Charbel Ghattas please confirm if you still like to join this drive.

that's exactly what I did lol😄. bumper trim, 2 inch lift, cheap yet powerful VQ40DE. I will give you some pros & cons as a pathfinder (R51) owner for half a decade: Pro: 1. Really powerful engine, and you can push the rpm to red zone without worrying about auto upshifting 2. cheap price but reliable in its category 3. the models from 2013-2015(6) are made in Spain, I dont see overheating issue even the Spanish removed the extra transmission cooler. (Mine is 2010, made in US, I have both coolant & transmission overheating issue during summer.) 4. full independent suspension, comfortable on road, and the highway handling is remarkable compare to other rivals 5. Second & third rows can be put down completely, It's all I needed during house shifting Cons: 1. the 2013-2015(6) ones only come with basic option, no cruise control, no center screen, and no all other buttons, it feels like a utility car. 2. Second & third rows are tight, Nissan has squeezed the second row space to accommodate third row 3. Stock ground clearance isn't enough, you probably will need 1.5-2 inch lift to be more comfortable driving in bushy terrain. 4. full independent suspension + no rear/front diff lock = less articulation, and more difficult to get yourself out once you have 1 wheel front and 1 wheel rear are airborne. 5. Power to weight ratio 122hp/ton, a bare passing score, but enough to get you on top the hills, I haven't failed any straight hill climbing yet, but its weight is indeed heavy @ZULFIKHAR NAIYAR Honestly if you are into Patrol, you can find some 320 HP Patrols with your budget, early y62 come with 2 engine trans options, 320HP (VK56DE)+5AT and 400HP(VK56VD, mentioned by Rawad)+7AT. Fuel efficiency & offroadability are similar, the only (probably) differences are power and ride comfort. I recently have witnessed a 2010 320HP Patrol sold at 4X,XXX AED (below actual market price), with just 100k mileage, incredible condition, so dont give up just yet.

Choosing the Right Air Compressor for Desert Off-Roading in the UAE Off-roading in the UAE desert requires lowering your tire pressure to improve traction on soft sand. While some exits conveniently lead to nearby petrol stations where you can reinflate your tires, this is not always the case. For that reason, carrying a reliable air compressor is an essential part of any off-road recovery kit. It is one piece of equipment you do not want failing when it is time to head back onto the tarmac. Depending on your tire size and the type of compressor being used, reinflating tires can take anywhere from 2–4 minutes per tire to more than 25 minutes for a full set. Under the UAE’s intense desert heat, minimizing inflation time becomes more than just a convenience — it is an important factor for both comfort and equipment longevity. In this article, we will look at some of the key technical considerations when using an air compressor and explain what to look for when purchasing one. Heat Management: The Biggest Challenge The primary challenge with air compressors is heat generation. Compressing air creates friction between air molecules, and this process naturally produces significant amounts of heat. The temperature increase is most noticeable around the piston head, but the air hose itself can also become extremely hot during operation. This is why most quality compressors are equipped with cooling fins and a short metal outlet pipe designed to dissipate heat before it reaches the rubber hose. Even so, compressors should always be handled carefully after use, as certain components may become hot enough to cause burns. It is completely normal for a compressor to heat up during operation, especially when running continuously or operating in high ambient temperatures such as those experienced in the UAE desert. To reduce overheating and extend the lifespan of your compressor, it is recommended to: Keep the compressor in the shade whenever possible Avoid running it continuously for extended periods Respect the manufacturer’s specified duty cycle Allow the unit to cool down between inflation sessions when necessary Understanding Compressor Performance One important factor often overlooked is that inflating a single tire at a time can limit most compressors to an effective airflow of approximately 70 liters per minute (LPM). Even if a compressor is rated for higher output, airflow resistance from a single tire valve can restrict performance, forcing the compressor to work harder and generate additional heat. For high-performance compressors with greater airflow capacity, using a dual-hose or four-hose inflation system can significantly improve efficiency. Inflating multiple tires simultaneously reduces overall runtime, lowers operating temperatures, and makes much better use of the compressor’s available airflow. This setup is especially beneficial for vehicles equipped with larger off-road tires, where inflation times can otherwise become lengthy and demanding on the compressor. What to Look for When Buying an Air Compressor Choosing the right air compressor for desert off-roading is about more than simply buying the most powerful model available. Reliability, durability, and real-world performance are far more important when you are regularly inflating tires in harsh desert conditions. Below are some of the key factors to consider before making a purchase. 1. Warranty and Brand Reputation A quality compressor is an investment, and a reputable manufacturer should stand behind its product with a solid warranty. Premium brands typically offer warranties ranging from 4 to 5 years, which helps justify the higher purchase price and provides peace of mind for frequent off-roaders. Unfortunately, long warranty periods have become less common in recent years, making brand reputation and after-sales support more important than ever. 2. Airflow Output (LPM / CFM) Compressor performance is usually measured in either: LPM (Liters Per Minute) CFM (Cubic Feet Per Minute) As a reference: 2.3 CFM ≈ 65 LPM In general, higher airflow means faster tire inflation. For most off-road applications, compressors delivering 50 LPM or more will perform adequately, while larger tires and multi-tire inflation systems benefit from significantly higher output. However, comparing compressor specifications is not always straightforward. Manufacturers do not always use the same testing standards: Some advertise airflow at 0 PSI (free air delivery) Others provide ratings at 40 PSI, which places a much greater load on the compressor This means that published numbers can sometimes be misleading, and real-world performance may differ significantly from what is printed on the box. 3. Duty Cycle Air compressors generate substantial heat during operation, which means most units cannot run continuously without periodic cooling. The allowable runtime before cooling is required is known as the duty cycle. Manufacturers may express this in different ways: Time-based rating: Example: “20 minutes per hour” Percentage-based rating: Example: “33% duty cycle” In both cases, the meaning is essentially the same: the compressor can operate for approximately 20 minutes within a one-hour period before it should be allowed to cool down. This becomes particularly important for drivers who go off-roading frequently or who need to inflate larger tires. Exceeding the duty cycle repeatedly can quickly lead to overheating, reduced lifespan, or permanent compressor damage. 4. Hose and Accessory Quality The quality of the included accessories is often overlooked but has a major impact on usability and durability. Pay close attention to the quality of: The coiled air hose The pressure gauge The clip-on air chuck Poor-quality fittings and hoses are common failure points and can become frustrating during repeated desert use, especially under high temperatures. 5. Automatic Pressure Shut-Off A useful premium feature is an automatic pressure shut-off system. This function allows the compressor to stop automatically when the inflation trigger is not engaged, reducing unnecessary strain on the motor and limiting heat buildup. It also makes operation more convenient and efficient during multi-tire inflation. 6. Electrical Protection Features Quality compressors should include built-in protection systems such as: Inline fuse protection Thermal overload protection These safety features help protect both the compressor and your vehicle’s electrical system in the event of overheating, excessive current draw, or electrical faults. While these protections are generally standard on premium models, cheaper compressors may omit them entirely. Below a typical specs example of a Bushranger Black Max: Duty cycle is 30 minutes @40psi at 24°C ambient temperature. Obviously the ambient temperature will be much higher for us here in the UAE, so you will need to take that into account. Keep the compressor in the shade while using (or even on the inside of the car if possible) and keep your engine running. These compressors are rated to work most efficiently at 13.8 Volts, so your alternator should be running. Below i will be going through most of the brands we have encountered in the club, and how we can rate them: Premium Brands (****) Brands like ARB, Bushranger, TJM, Dobinsons, and Mean Mother, are the most famous premium brands that will be providing a quality unit that should last years. ARB and Bushranger/Viair have the advantage that you will find spare parts for them, so if you are interested and savvy, you can rebuild your compressor later on. Price range of these compressor is from 750 AED upwards up to 2500+AED. The main reason why they cost more is due to the quality of materials used, higher duty cycle of their compressor, and of course marketing as well. ARB ARB has the single cylinder unit for about 1000AED, while its big brother will be around 2,700AED. They have by far the best quality of hoses and gauges, and these units should last many years if being well taken care of. MeanMother The Mean Mother Adventurer is the only brand/model we know of in the UAE that offers 5year warranty, hence this model has become very popular in our off-roading community. You will find the Adventurer III model for around 750AED (150lpm), but now there is also the Adventurer IV which is having slightly better performance (180lpm) and costs about 999AED. We have heard about a few models failing but were replaced within warranty. Bushranger / Viair Bushranger/Viair has a range of different models with output ratings from 52lpm up to 72lpm. (Black Max for 800AED and Max Air III for 1120AED). The Max Air III has an automatic pressure shut-off. Their compressors are extremely reliable, but i have never been impressed with their yellow plastic coiled hoses and clip-on, except for the black hoses they use on the old SuperMax and the newer Max Air III model. Their smallest model (RV Air for 599AED) is the minimum in terms of output flow (52lpm) and will take quite some time to inflate your tires, but should work fine. Dobinsons Dobinsons have the Zenith model (170 lpm) that is being sold for 999AED. Quality looks top notch with good set of accessories and backed by a premium quality brand. Midrange Brands (***) Golden Camel The "Golden Camel" brand with its red compressors, sold in single cylinder and double cylinder models are fantastic performers for the price (200 AED for the single big cylinder 160lpm, and 280AED for the double cylinder compressor (300 lpm). Yes the hoses break, the electrics fail sometimes, and it won't be the most reliable compressor, but for that price it's worth a try if you want it. You will find the hoses also separarely in DM, and if you are a bit handy with a soldering gun you might make an attempt to replace the switches or solder a wire back on. They now even have a mighty big 4-cylinder unit, which pumps out an impressive 300lpm. The problem nowadays is that you have even "fake" Golden Camel compressors, who look 100% identical, but their quality is even more of a question mark. I recently bought one and it started overheating and shutting off after only two tyres. The vibration coming from the compressor makes me wonder about the tolerances used in the manufacturing process. On the other hand i also have a single cylinder Golden Camel that has been going strong for 3 years now and never failed. Vitaly Vitaly is a brand that basically re-labels these Chinese compressors and sells them at a higher price in hardware stores like ACE and Speedex. Again they are a bit of a gamble and the only advantage you will have is you will get at least 1year warranty through these stores. T-Max These compressors are looking very similar to the DM Single big cylinder compressors and the Mean Mother Adventurer. There is a smaller 72lpm unit and a big 150lpm unit. Prices are similar to Vitaly, and T-Max seems to be a reputable Australian brand, so perhaps the build quality will be a slight notch above the DM compressors. Volcano I recently stumbled upon this brand via a shop in Ajman. They are manufactured in Taiwan and manufacture compressors for high end brands as well. Their biggest compressor model is the B850 which is being sold for about 650AED. Have seen them on sale in DM as well. They come in a sturdy box, with decent hose (like the Bushranger top model) and have a pressure gauge with automatic cut-off. Flow rate is 98lpm. Brands/ Models to avoid: -The smaller "Golden Camel" Compressor. Absolutely worthless. Also sold under the "X-Cessories" brand name. -Mini compressors to connect to the cigarette lighter: Will last only a few drives. Not made to inflate weekly from 15 to 35psi, unless you want to wait for 25mins or longer. Will overheat easily because of this. These are made for sedans and bicycles. The Black and Decker and Michelin models seem to work better, but it will take you upwards of 25 minutes to inflate your tires. If you happen to have one of those, i strongly recommend to only inflate to about 25psi you can then drive to the nearest petrol station and use their compressor. If you are in the market of buying a new compressor, i hope this article can shed some light and useful information that will guide you in the right direction. As you can clearly see, inflating tyres on a 4x4 in the summer heat requires a big powerful compressor that can quickly inflate your tyres before overheating or shutting down.

Hello all, my names Phillip and I’m new to car off-roading in the sand , looking forward to meeting you all in the dunes. Now driving a Ram rebel 21’

Sounds good, look forward to it @Ale Vallecchi if you need any help with middle or back of convoy let me know! Can’t wait to get out in the sand again.

@varunmehndirattaBTW if you go without a roof, take a jacket and a hat for the morning

Congratulations @Imran Kashif

Hi please strike me off the list as per latest guidelines I can't enter since need to take 3 tests and 3rd test is on the day of the drive. Will make it next time

Finally got the appointment at Mina Rashid centre for tomo morning 11am and airline confirmed 72hrs... Hopefully get the result in time.

@m.seidam Confirmed incase I can get a spot. Cheers.

@M.Seidam confirmed. happy new year to all.

No issue at all dear Hisham . Take care and wish you and family happy and prosperous new year 🙏

@M.Seidam with so much disappointment, will have to drop out. Wish you guys a safe enjoyable drive

Hi Experts, I was wondering if I could get some right guidance in terms of using Patrol Y62 for off-roading. As a background to this, I'd recently joined this club and found out my AWD (2015 KIA Sorento) was not a capable off-roader. I was lucky to join one of the Absolute Newbie drives with a friend and rightly understood why so. Wouldn't have made past few climbs itself 😅 I've progressed further from it and narrowed down on investing on a Patrol - my requirement is a capable off-roader and a spacious 7 seater family vehicle. And I personally love the Patrol. Have gone through quite a bit of advices in the forums here on how the members have done some standard mods on the bumpers and skid plates. I'm looking at Patrols of around 2011-2014 with my budget of 55-65k. I could find some vehicles of similar models run around 150k kms more or less. Is this a good and reasonable option to proceed? Kindly advise. Also, I'm in favor of LE. However, is SE a good option given the similar pricing? Or even if there are some other options I could consider here? Given my budget and requirements 😵 @Frederic hope to catch you soon on some of the drives and would love to hear from you as well. Thanks in advance.

Thank you all for the valuable inputs Will keep in mind.. @Zixuan Huang - Charlie Lovely, will keep looking Thanks @Rawad, its a great explanation and love what you've done with your ride ❤️

@Shaaz Sha thanks for leading a fantastic drive in a great area, the pace and performance by all was superb! Apart from a few moments of hesitation leading to shovels and ropes it was truly a free flowing drive on challenging terrain. By my calculations we covered 62kms In 3h08m of moving time with an average moving speed of just under 20kmph. Nice to meet some new faces and see some old friends too. Well driven: @Aisha S (great 2nd lead), @Charbel @Tareck @munkybizness @Gilbert Khalil @Ranjan Das (great support as always) @Chris Wing @imranaasghar81 @Amir Amiri @Thomas Varghese See you all soon 🌵 PS - Pics uploaded to the gallery

I'm also a patrol user and I drove it stock until the intermediate level and I love it. If your budget allows, having a dedicated off-road vehicle might be better. In my case it was not possible. I trimmed the rear bumper, got 18inch rims so far. Still need the bash plate though.

I personally dont think you can find a nice condition Patrol on that price range. You can get a Pathfinder 4.0 very low km 2014-2015 model. It will come under your budget. If you make a 2 inc lift and small trim on front bumper you will have an amazing off road and daily car.

Combining a daily driver / family car and weekend offroader is possible with the Patrol Y62. However considering the fact this will also mean your bumpers will need to be cut/trimmed, and some mods will be needed, perhaps another option would be to buy a good family 7-seater SUV, and buy a separate weekend offroad toy that you can bash around without too much heartpain. I have a regular commuter car that takes me to work, is not stuffed with sand from the weekend drive, consumes a lot less on road, and is low on maintenance. On the weekend i take out my little Pajero and then the adventure starts. Just think about it.

Hi @ZULFIKHAR NAIYAR Go for a white LE with 18 inch wheels for the following reasons 1- you will need each and every hp and torque you can squeeze out of the LE VK56VD engine. This is a heavy beast and its power/weight ratio isn't the best 2- you need 18 inch wheels to maximise the tiers sidewall. So at least start with the OEM ones that come with LE version. My tiers recommendation is 275/70R18 that comes around the same diameter as the stock ones 3- the Nissan Patrol is on every corner, and hence the scrap market is full of spare parts. But 99% are white cars. So if you're ok with a white color, it will save you some painting jobs 4- LE comes with conventional suspension system (springs, dampers, and sway bars). Its easier to repair or modify than the HBMC that comes with Titanium and Platinum versions The number of KMs isn't really indicative for this car as much as how well its previous owner took care of it. If you can find a GCC one with agency service history then your good I believe. Nevertheless, this beast isn't gonna be easy on the pockets when it comes for mechanical repairs. On the bright side, again, lots and lots of 2nd hand spare parts If you get the LE version, the bumpers can survive newbie and fewbie drives. But you will need to figure them out afterwards. Tiers, skid plates and clearance, other than that, you wont need any mod unless you wanna go dunes jumping I personally drive a 2019 Patrol and its a blast once you figure out how to control 3 tons on sand

Thank you @Ale Vallecchi for the very nice drive this morning. It was great to go back to the DTC tracks, and to see that cutting through the technical areas was totally manageable for a group of good drivers. Still it was amazing to see the big cars, Y62 for @Rawad and @Lawrence_Chehimi, and the trucks of @Amir Amiriand @Dodi Syahdar keeping the flow in the tight dunes and narrow bowls. Congratulations for the lead @Ale Vallecchi, we did a great time, and it removes nothing to the performance of Richard@Wrangeld and his team. They did it discovering the WP on the spot, they are the real champions ! The second part of the drive, was just pleasure and enjoyment to wander through the wider area between Solar Park and Qudra, with a convoy in perfect configuration, 2 Jeeps, 2 FJs, 2 Y62, 2 trucks ! @Sunil Mathew, it was nice driving with you, @Archibald Jurdi also, I hope your car can get fixed without too much troubles (great mechanical support from @Lawrence_Chehimi). Thank you all for the drive !

@Frederic I am extremely sorry for Withdrowing myself from new year event because of weather conditions which is getting colder and I am unable to bring my children there. See you soon in fewbie drive

@Frederic I’ve removed myself from this event. I’m having to sort out a issue after today’s afternoon drive.

Sorry, I have to leave this drive due to an electrical issue with my vehicle. Have a great drive.