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Dear friends @Gok Krish @Davie Chase @Pacific @luwaimn @Daniel Rodas @Daniel Yang @Naim Aoun @Fabien Monleau @James Thorn good day and hope you are all ready for Sunday afternoon 2 pm sharp for the loop II . I have fixed the meeting point please refresh and you will find it in this drive topic above and calendar RSVP as well. this drive is going to be a demanding one entraining full concentration and undivided attention so get enough rest before you come as we are going be crossing a diverse terrain more than 50 % is technical and super technical at some sections. check the points of recommendation above in the drive topic and please make sure it’s all done . Can’t wait to meet you on Sunday afternoon . cheers 🙏 Seidam

@jeetu sharma @Emanuel @Suresh K @Abdul Basit Khan @Azeem M @Haitham Khattab @Eli Zandro Hamoy @Juzer Gandhi @Gerrit Bus @Rajat Verma @Alfred Alinazar @Sharat Nambiar @Saleh Kuba @MMALEK Thanks for joining this drive and hope all of you have gone through the training and briefing videos on the drive post. Please also make sure that you have the required gear for the Newbie level, failing which, you would not be allowed to drive. The convoy order will be put up tomorrow by 8PM. We will be using Carnity radio channel 1, please have your radios tuned in advance, details on drive post.

Good morning everyone. As we are 24 hours away from the drive, we have so far @Ben84 @Waqas Parvez @Trekado @Mohamad Anwer @Vaibhav and @Davie Chase confirmed . Would really appreciate to hear from the others, to check spaces for the waitlisted names specially the first drives ones. Attendees Vaibhav @Vaibhav Davie Chase @Davie Chase MMansoor @MMansoor Trekado @Trekado Ahmad Shaker @Ahmad Shaker Joji varghese @Joji varghese Ben84 @Ben84 imranaasghar81 @imranaasghar81 Waqas Parvez @Waqas Parvez Mohamad Anwer @Mohamad Anwer Waitlisted Attendees Junaid120120 @Junaid120120 WL1 Rsjiv Samuel @Rsjiv Samuel WL1 Daniel Yang @Daniel Yang Look forward to see you in sand Take care

Hi @hugo There are the known places like Qudra: https://goo.gl/maps/MGTbmawgUkw2cCkz7 https://goo.gl/maps/X8H9YPDYBURMz8Mo8 https://goo.gl/maps/cNAha6wuBTQTEfzH8 Mahafiz area (you can use the pylon track to access): https://goo.gl/maps/GBEn99M9KLZASz2eA Overall i would recommend you join us for drives in the several areas in UAE, and keep your GPS device on (Phone with GaiaGPS app). If you see a nice area that is not too crowded, just save it as a waypoint in your GPS to visit later with friends. Focus on finding something that is not too deep inside the desert (in case you have friends without offroading experience), close to an exit track, and not an area where you would be constantly disturbed by cars zooming around.

I totally agree with Charlie, Toyota's are the last car to overheat, even in peak summers. And in case it does, try to troubleshoot the actual cause of the issue than just strapping coolers based on off-road garage advice. Tranny coolers and fans are really helpful, no doubt but in some cases, they act counter-productive to block a lot of air passage for radiators. So after installing a HUGE tranny cooler you might run cooler A/T oil but the radiator will overheat the car temperature. Bottom line, follow the steps to really nail the issue (when it appears): Fix the stock component if overheats. Add additional fan on existing cooler if it doesn't have one, common issue with many manufacturers. Use a slightly longer or taller tranny cooler and not double the size, as it will block more air passage for the radiator. If A/T light comes in peak summer on cross-tracks or self-recovery for a few seconds and goes away when you start moving, then don't bother much as when air circulation is so less in peak summer this is quite normal and not a flaw. If A/T light comes during the normal off-road driving conditions, then it's a concern and some of the action is needed.

Hi all, Been a few conversations across various threads and on the drives so thought I would write a dedicated post and encourage others to share their photos also. In my personal opinion, the front bumper skirts need to be removed straight after your absolute newbie. While some have got through Newbie levels without issues, myself and others have not! For front bumper cut, I did after some research and understanding that this was the most susceptible area for damage if approaching or coming down at angles other than "straight ahead". I did this ready for Fewbie and it gave me great confidence and removed any damage worry from my mind. Note: to cover the holes, I suggest to go shopping on amazon and search "bumper retainer clips" and take your pick! Alternatively, find me on a drive, I've got loads now 🤣 Mine is GXR/VXR Prado 150 2014-2017 model year Below is the "Before Removal" Here is the "After removal" For Bumper Cutting, below are some photos

and who will calm us down in case of over excitement 😂 .. kidding off course , have fun dear see you in Loop III 😉

@Foxtrot Oscar Krishna here. Driving Infiniti qx56 Absolute newbie to the sands Front and rear tow hooks present Looking forward for Sunday 😊

Good question. I would love also to be able to take the kids on a short and safe desert drive and picnic underneath a tree somewhere.

Sorry I haven't heard of any Toyota owners complain about any overheating issue in summer 😅 PS: my experience limited to 2021 summer only

Yes you need a Green on Al Hosn App

Hi.. Now the wait listed attendees are picked up by the WL managing system. Hope you are in if there is a drop out

Thought I would update for future viewers of this post. bashplate: definitely worthwhile and in my opinion needed on prado as you progress. The first time you hit it, you feel relief you got it rather than panic about what damage has been done. bumper: removal of any skirts/extra bumper bits. I got the side of bumper cut, after catching it once or twice. 2014>2017 model has quite low bumper at the sides! This was the cheapest and best mod done as it gave me confidence to pick up the speed and not worry about damage when approaching/departing dunes at at angle! Tyres: just got some AT tyres after fewbie no6! Will report back on these in a few more weeks!

Congratulations @JeromeFJ, Well Done 👍

Congrats @JeromeFJ, well deserved🙌🏻

Congratulations @JeromeFJ. Was fortunate to have you on my first drive and loved the way you explained the finer points of offroading with your calm and cool demeanor.

While offroading, we cross dunes by using different methods, based on how the dune is formed and what the drive level is. Once you have spent some time in the desert, you will slowly start to pay more attention to the dune formations and how we cross them. Once you reach Intermediate and Advance level, you'll need to start learning how to read these dunes in order to navigate and create your planned routes in the desert. As a rule of thumb, the prevailing wind in UAE is blowing from a North-Western direction to South-East direction from 10AM onwards. At night and in early morning it will be reversed and blow from the South-East to North-West. This is something you should remember and you will notice when you zoom into certain areas with your navigation app (Google Maps, Gaia, MotionX, Mytrails,...) you will notice that the wind from that side has caused the dunes to take on their shape. This is a general rule and will not always apply, as you will see that in certain areas where wind is coming from different directions, you will see for example "star" dunes appearing. There are different types of dunes which are separately described below. As you can see in below picture, a dune is formed when the prevailing wind blows on a mound of sand, where the grain will move into the wind direction and create a ridge. The sand which falls on the other side of the ridge, creates a slipface, and this sand is not compacted by the wind. This is the main reason why we generally drive on the prevailing wind side or the convex side of the dunes on the Newbie level. "A dune is a curiously dynamic creature," wrote Farouk El-Baz in National Geographic. “Once formed, a dune can grow. It can change shape and move with the wind. It can even breed new dunes. Some of these offspring may be carried on the back of the mother dune. Others are born and race downwind, outpacing their parents. [Source: Farouk El-Baz, National Geographic, February 1982] The shape of dunes is affected by things like the strength, direction and consistency of the winds; the consistency and amount of sand; the hardness of the terrain and the amount of vegetation. Below we will describe the most common dunes found in the UAE. Different Dunes Crescent or Barchan Dune This is the most common dune. It forms the shape of a crescent moon when the wind blows from one direction. We generally use the words concave and convex to describe both sides of the dune: * Concave is a shape that curves inwards. * Convex is a shape that curves outwards. Crescent-shaped mounds generally are wider than long. On the concave side you will have the slipface. These dunes form under winds that blow from one direction, and they also are known as barchans. Parabolic Dune A parabolic dune is similar in shape to a barchan, but it is just the opposite. The tips of this dune point into the wind, and its main body migrates with the wind, forming a depression between the tips. Because of this formation, parabolic dunes are also known as blowout dunes. These dunes often occur when vegetation stabilizes sediments and a U-shaped blowout forms between clumps of plants. Example of Parabolic dunes near Faya: https://goo.gl/maps/ob8xu3y8VJJvF6hk8 Longitudinal or "Seif" Dunes They are also often referred to to as "sand ridges" or "seifs". Their length can range from a few meters to many kilometers and their height from a couple meters high to a couple hundred meters high. Wind pushes the sand and forms ridges parallel to the prevailing wind direction with slip faces either side of the crest. Linear dunes are straight or slightly sinuous sand ridges typically much longer than they are wide. They may be more than 160 kilometers long. Linear dunes may occur as isolated ridges, but they generally form sets of parallel ridges separated by miles of sand, gravel, or rocky interdune corridors. Some linear dunes merge to form Y-shaped compound dunes. Many form in bidirectional wind regimes. The long axes of these dunes extend in the resultant direction of sand movement. Barchanoid Dunes These ridges are similar to Barchan dunes. They are connected in long crescentic waves as the sand supply is much greater than that which forms a Barchan Dune. Star Dunes These dunes are formed when there are several prevailing wind directions - there is a complex wind regime. Typically there are three or more slip faces, whilst the dunes do not migrate they grow in height. Star dunes are radially-symmetrical, spyramidal sand mounds with slipfaces on three or more arms that radiate from the high center of the mound. They are created when the winds blow equally from every direction, causing the sand dune to grow many extensions and resemble a star. They are rare and are fairly stable and remain in the same place. Some are landmarks with names. Example of a Star dune: https://goo.gl/maps/jRnYghQc8ACzVz6T7 With this knowledge, the next time you step into the desert, you can start looking at the different dune formations, and this will give you lots of knowledge that you'll be able to apply in the future when leading and navigating off-road drives.

Dear all, I am wondering if there is a list of recommended places for bbq to enjoy some time with the family. Also, near some nice dunes to enjoy while the family is in the "main" camp, so that the drivers can go play for a bit with the cars

Pre drive important information Dear friends In the second part of this loop drive " the loop II " i choose the mystical desert of lisaili and its outskirts from Murqab east up to the "middle earth" south and south west and back north to Lisaili proper. if you have a close look to the details on the map you can imagine the diversity of this terrain from super technical to the flat track and all what could be in between. if you sign for this drive please its highly recommended the following points to be taken in consideration for the at most safety desired : make sure your vehicle is at its optimum condition with all fluids and lubes been checked for any leaks and topped up. please check you tow recovery points and its integrity. check your spare tyre size and its condition and make sure you have the proper tools needed specific for your spare tyre change. check your offroad gear and that its tied up not loose. please don't forget to come with two fully charged and programmed radios or a car charger available for it. this drive may induce a motion sickness to some individuals prone to that such as children and persons whom are known to experience it . so please make the safest choice for them. this is an afternoon drive that is planned to end at the sunset time , however prepare your self for some delay in case . This drive is organized in full compliance with the COVID19 guidelines. We expect every member that joins this drive to go through below information and strictly follow these guidelines in order not to jeopardize someone's health, and to ensure we can keep organizing these drives safely. MUST READ AND TOTALLY AGREE: COVID19 Precautions Mandatory Safety Requirements Ban from Carnity Off-road Club Two Way Radio Guidelines Drive Details Level: Fewbie plus and above When: 6 Feb 2022, Sunday Meeting time: 14:00 (SHARP - Without any exceptions) Starting Point: https://goo.gl/maps/WHstoXFZbq8Ud9a98 Type of Car: Any proper 4x4 with front and back tow hooks and 8-10 inches of ground clearance. What to bring along: Loads of water, snacks (for yourself), face mask, rubber gloves, enthusiasm and willingness to learn. Approximate finish time: 18:00 THIS IS A COMPRESSOR ONLY DRIVE. WE WILL END THE DRIVE AT A POINT WHICH IS NOT CLOSE TO AN AIR LINE. IF YOU DO NOT HAVE A COMPRESSOR, PLEASE DO NOT SIGN UP FOR THIS DRIVE. IF YOU ARRIVE AND HAVE NO COMPRESSOR YOU WILL NOT BE ALLOWED TO JOIN THE DRIVE LIMITED SPOTS AVAILABLE: Limited to 10 Fewbies plus and above drivers. RSVP will close on Thursday - 6 pm00000 If the RSVP is full and you wish to join, please add your self on the wait list option. Latecomers will be returned back - without ANY EXCEPTIONS. Members without RSVP will be returned back - without ANY EXCEPTIONS. Please withdraw your RSVP, if you aren't joining, so your spot can be taken by others. Repeated no-show members after RSVP will have their account suspended for a month. Please RSVP on Below Calendar:

Dear Foxtrot Oscar Kindly update me this is my first time, i can join to you . I have all required accessories . Thanks Nadeem 0564108551

Hi @M.Seidam I am ready in morning drive with Ale, so will withdraw my name. See you next time. Thank you.

OMG 11 drivers waiting anxiously in the wait list. Though I love @Shaaz Sha's drive I left it this week for this reason. I have done 7 drives with Shaaz in a row and love everyone of those drives irrespective of their levels. It is better Shaaz post another drive same day afternoon so that the drivers in the waitlist won't be disappointed. If that's fine with Shaaz I will join the convoy after my morning drive.

@Yerem Davtyan, some good read from the masters... Although I'd still recommend solve for the tires first in your case 🤣

@Asad and @Vasja Zupan glad this is helpful. I have couple of ideas for posts. Let me Kick one off on bumper cutting and add in some people that might also be able to add pics to help! I'll do this tonight!

@Hisham Masaadi am in

Looking forward

@hisham I am a confirmed attendee

Congrats @JeromeFJ 🎉🎉🎉

Congrats @varunmehndiratta🎆🎆

Congratulations @varunmehndiratta

More than happy bro 😄

Hi, 1. yes: Prado - white 2. no driving experience 3. yes as shared in my first post

My soul was out of my body almost with that impact 😂😅😂

@Shaaz Sha looking fwd to the drive. Can I be second lead in this one?

Just wanted to confirm...does this drive require offroad flags..as per the faq/essential items it mentions newbie and above..and this drive is given as absolute newbie

Congrats @varunmehndiratta👏

Congratulations @varunmehndiratta

Congrats @varunmehndiratta well done 👍

Congratulations @varunmehndiratta

congratulations @varunmehndiratta.. well deserved.. 👍

Congrats @varunmehndiratta

Congratulations Varun..

Driving off-road is a very interesting and entertaining experience but there are a few basic things you need to check first before heading for your first off-road drive with Carnity Off-road Club. Every driver should know when to join for an offroad drive and when to pass until all below things are checked. VEHICLE Ground clearance: Minimum 8 inches under front and rear bumper is must. You will need to be careful while driving and slow down while descent and approach to avoid any minor bumper damage. If your 4x4 have EAS (electronic suspension), lift it to the max height and then measure it. Also read the manual to know what is the max speed you can drive with off-road height, as many manufacturer limit up to 60 Kmph with off-road height, which is plenty in most cases. Knowing that limit is better in case you go above that speed, so you can lift it again once you slow down. Tow hook: Your 4x4 should have at least 1 tow hook in the front and 1 tow hook at the back, more the better. Also you should check the integrity of all tow hooks and its appearance, if they are shaking or rusted or missing a bolt, then get them fixed before joining any off-road drive. Engine: Your engine should be in perfect working condition without any check engine light or any warning lights on dashboard or leaking oil or coolant. Engine takes more stress while off-roading so well serviced 4x4 performs better on off-road. If you recently bought the car and have no idea of last service, then it's highly advisable to get the engine service before your first off-road drive. Gear / Transmission: Your 4x4 should have 4L and 4H gearing option. AWD or SUV without LO/HI gearing option are not advisable for sand off-roading. Suspension: Your 4x4 vehicle suspension should be in reasonable and drivable condition. You can drive with stock suspension perfectly fine and then you can decide to modify it, if really needed. Any suspension lifted up to 2-3 inches are accepted, anything above 3 inches lift need trip leader approval before joining any drive to make sure if you have widened the wheelbase to lower the center of gravity in an orderly manner. Tires: Your 4x4 tires should be in good condition with enough tread and more than half life left. Tires nearing their end usually fail while off-roading, so check for date of manufacturing shouldn't be more than 3-4 years. No visible cuts or lost tread chunks or cracking sidewall should be there. Fuel Tank: You should always join the off-road drive with full fuel tank, as all vehicles consume double or triple the amount of fuel while off-roading. You don't need to change the fuel type from special to super for off-road purpose, continue with your fuel type as per manufacturers recommendation. Sign up: Once you have checked all these above points then RSVP the drive calendar and post an introductory message on the drive post - sharing your 4x4 details, previous off-road experience (if any), so that trip lead can acknowledge and plan the drive accordingly. OFF-ROAD GEAR You don't need any off-road gear or recovery gears for your first off-road drive, but if you have a shovel, flag and a radio (walkie talkie) then please carry it with you. Rest all the off-road gears and recovery tools will be shown to you once you attend the briefing and you can read more about them here: https://carnity.com/advice/offroad/most-comprehensive-list-of-off-road-gears-and-recovery-tools-r81 OFF-ROAD DRIVE Always wear long pants and closed shoes (no slippers) to avoid any injury or sun burn. Carry hat/cap/scarf, in case you need to spend long time under the sun. Carry plenty of water and soft drinks of your choice to keep you hydrated. Carry your camera mounts if you like to record the drive (no hand held). No carrying or consumption of any type of alcoholic drinks on the drive.

Dear Sir, Kindly add me, everything done

Thank you for the wishes! Wishes all Canity’s members 虎🧧升威 新年快乐 ㊗️你一🏡健康如意

@Foxtrot Oscar Thank you for the wonderful drive. Also thank you @Alex Raptor for being so supportive every time. I have uploaded some pictures for the drive.

@Shaaz Sha Hi Shaaz, I'm in waiting list. Please add me to drive, if possible. Thanks

Hi Janarthan, I am still learning how to use this platform, where did you upload the content? Could you share the link please?

Thank you @Foxtrot Oscar Indeed, it was the best drive so far, look forward to riding more and more with you and the great family of carnity

Drive Report There’s a reason I give up my free time and volunteer to take a crowd of people I don’t know from Adam out into the desert . Today’s drive was that reason! Give yourselves a massive pat on the back because by goodness did you earn your desert stripes today with a side sloping fiesta in Mahafiz! 👏 We started off gradually and slowly but surely, every single driver, upped their game, time and time again until you were pulling the most audacious side slopes, I think we saw one fishtail the whole day!!! What was the most pleasing aspect for me personally is that you all self recovered brilliantly, and steered down when you had to! @Laura Conesa you started off a bit tentatively, as to be expected on a first Newbie drive, but I think the self recovery really helped your confidence and you didn't look back, Great job. @Murad Hamedgreat drive today, flawless, took everything in your stride and handled your car well, Clearly nor your first time in the sand my friend, Nice driving. @karim hamandiAnother who had a flawless drive, you were getting used to your car's power too. Really nice driving. @Yerem DavtyanI'm glad you managed to join us, it was great to see you handle the 96 Tahoe out there, Well done. @Han Very nice driving my friend, one slightly sticky moment but you responded and self recovered well. Well done! @Sree - FortunerExcellent drive Sree, another who had a flawless drive and self recovered. @Mo.A pleasure driving with you, you;;re really handling the jeep well and with finesse too. Well done @Andrew McCarthyYou don't half put that Pajero through its paces mate. Great driving! Oh and your first tug in the desert too. Lucky you @SivakumarSiva, you are my star of the day, What an absolute pleasure it was to watch you grow in confidence as the drive progressed. Your self-recovery on the side slope was excellent, and you didn't need to do it again because the fear was gone and you knew the momentum would carry you. Honestly, what a champion! Love it! @Siddharth guptaMy quiet champion! Sitting there at the back, floating that leviathan of yours around those dunes without breaking a sweat and on your second drive!! What a drive my friend, well done! A massive thank you to my excellent support today, @Archibald Jurdi, great to see you mate after such a long time and thanks for the excellent 2nd lead. @Alex Raptorwho was sweeping at the back, offering advice and pulling it out as he loves to do in the desert , My De Facto Centre forward @Danish Mohammad, an absolute pleasure to drive with you again, and a wonderful job done in support, thank you, and @Janarthanmy fellow xman ! Great to have you as the flying sweep! Finally thank you to all of you for being such an utterly fantastic convoy, for listening to my instructions, following them and indulging me in one of my favourite things. Until our next adventure 😎