Changing from HT road tires to AT

[Wrangeld]

@Ale Vallecchi I have been facing the same dilemma as you about changing tires - not from HT to AT, but being unable to find the Geolandar A/T-S (G-012) anywhere in the market, because apparently this tire has been discontinued and is now the A-T (G015). 

I had concerns around the A/T because the tread seems more hard core, and I was worried about (even) more road noise while driving to and from the desert. I am also planning to move the front tires from 19" to 21" to balance up the car - even though I think that the stance at the moment looks quite good. I have bene offered all sorts of H/T tires as alternatives to the G012 and none of them has the characteristics that I think make for the type of tire I want off road = more floating, less digging. Also as I am upsizing, there will be a difference in the weight of the tires that might impact on momentum and agility (not to say anything about consumption which I am sure will also suffer once new tires are in place). 

Problem is that this is a big investment, which ever way we look at it and if it's wrong, it's not like you can take them back. 

[Srikumar]

9 minutes ago, Wrangeld said:

Problem is that this is a big investment, which ever way we look at it and if it's wrong, it's not like you can take them back. 

If you have come to a certain choice you could look at putting in second hand tyres for about a few weeks to see the performance before investing in brand new tyres.

[Ale Vallecchi]

1 hour ago, Gaurav said:

Seems like you have got some real heavy weight tires to increase so much fuel consumption?

Have you done the weight check/research before buying?

Is it also super noisy on road?

With given your explanation, I also doubt that now your long hill climb would be limited too. I had a same issue with a big beafy, meaty BFG and then Cooper ATR on my Patrol.

Good point about checking, which I have not done 🤦‍♂️. Fortunately, I don't notice much extra noise. I will deflate more for better flotation, and try to adapt. The climbing was not too much of an issue, but felt less "agile" on a couple of slopes, where I had to push more to do what I was used to doing apparently in an easier way.  Learning to adapt and respond. 

[Gaurav]

@Wrangeld G012 and G015 are almost identical and in some cases even superior.

Correct me if I have missed something somewhere, love to know more about G015 research, please.

[Febin Frederic]

33 minutes ago, siddharth maheshwari said:

Hi @Frederic i was about to go for these . Dont know if @Ale Vallecchi has installed the same . Your suggestions will be helpful 

@Rinelle Sanaani runs this. new pattern looks good. weighs around 20kg. its P rated not as aggressive as LT. road noise will be less and also under budget .

[Wrangeld]

3 minutes ago, Gaurav said:

@Wrangeld G012 and G015 are almost identical and in some cases even superior.

Correct me if I have missed something somewhere, love to know more about G015 research, please.

Yokohama Geolandar A/T G015

The Yokohoma’s Geolandar line-up is the most reliable and adaptable all-terrain line-up of the tyre, and its newest addition is Yokohama Geolandar A/T G015. The G015 was manufacture to supplant the first AT-S that is at present a top-rated model in its very own right, the new G015 is made to up the overall performance in a few key zones.

Yokohama Geolandar A/T G015 utilizes an intense Enduro all-season tread design that incorporates orange oil and one of a kind cutting edge polymers that are intended to convey expanded footing on rough terrain, as well as have a longer enduring treadwear.

This model is intended to give you a more lovely driving experience than you may suspect. Triple 3-D sipes prompt expanded footing on wet or snowy roadways. Yokohama engineers made these sipes to change their shape as the tyre starts wearing out so as to keep on boosting footing and safety.

This new model handles ice surprisingly better than the more seasoned AT-S. Actually, Yokohama expresses that snow braking and overall handling of the vehicle on the snow is improved over 25% in comparison to A/T-S. [Still waiting for opportunities to take advantage of this here in UAE!]

Yokohama Geolandar A/T-S G012

The Geolandar A/T-S G012 is entirely developed for splendid off-road experience thus giving the amazing off-road ability to 4X4. This tyre is truly a competent rough terrain tyre for regular driving.

The Geolandar A/T-S gives great off-road experience without prompting excessive noise or discomfort. 

Pros and cons

Here are some of the key pros and cons of both of the tyres:

Yokohama Geolandar A/T G015

• Amazing footing on both on and off-road
• Better performance in winter conditions
• Prompts well-mannered highway driving
• Longer enduring tread life
• Is not an ideal tyre for seriously muddy conditions

Yokohama Geolandar A/T-S G012

• Responsive Steering
• Amazing off-road traction & durability
• Longer lifespan of the tread
• Amazing comfort level
• Cornering while at high speed can be a bit soft

So maybe the differences are very slight and I should just go for the A/T instead? 

[Gaurav]

1 minute ago, Wrangeld said:

overall handling of the vehicle on the snow is improved over 25% in comparison to A/T-S. [Still waiting for opportunities to take advantage of this here in UAE!]

Me too.

[Srikumar]

6 minutes ago, Wrangeld said:

So maybe the differences are very slight and I should just go for the A/T instead? 

I would say so, if the AT/S is getting phased out and is unavailable.

[sertac]

When i was looking for Xterra i test drove few cars. One of them was having this beefy BFG tires. I immediately felt down about the car. It was super noisy. From that time i am thinking if i need to change the tires(looks like i will in coming months) what should i get. Geolander AT was on my mind but i guess even that one will be making some road noise. Since %95 i am driving on the highway probably i should get a HT. 

[siddharth maheshwari]

14 minutes ago, Febin Frederic said:

@Rinelle Sanaani runs this. new pattern looks good. weighs around 20kg. its P rated not as aggressive as LT. road noise will be less and also under budget .

Thank you @Febin Frederic