Wrangeld Posted November 25, 2021 Report Share Posted November 25, 2021 This drive is organized in full compliance with the COVID19 guidelines. We expect every member that joins this drive to go through below information and strictly follow these guidelines in order not to jeopardize someone's health, and to ensure we can keep organizing these drives safely. MUST READ AND TOTALLY AGREE: COVID19 Precautions Mandatory Safety Requirements Ban from Carnity Off-road Club Two Way Radio Guidelines Drive Details Level: Fewbie and above When: 02 Dec 2021, Thursday Meeting time: 7:30 AM (SHARP - Without any exceptions) Starting Point: https://goo.gl/maps/bZ77eVtDJqDhGJBm7 You can come early and camp in same starting point if you like. Last Fuel Station: https://goo.gl/maps/D6t1rXkuecZScyPZ9 NO 100 Liters of FUEL = NO DRIVE - Carry additional jerry cans accordingly SWB Cars = 2 Jerry can of extra fuel LWB Cars = 1 Jerry can of extra fuel 100+ liter fuel tank cars = No need for extra fuel. Lunch Break: 1 Hour in between with couple of short breaks (if needed). Type of Car: Any proper 4x4 with front and back tow hooks and 8-10 inches of ground clearance. What to bring along: Loads of water, lunch, snacks, face mask, enthusiasm and willingness to learn. Approximate finish time: 4:00 PM End Point: https://goo.gl/maps/hcRAsNvzKXnFDTMm7 THIS IS A COMPRESSOR ONLY DRIVE. LIMITED SPOTS AVAILABLE: Limited to 10 Fewbies and above drivers. RSVP will close on 29 Nov, Monday - 9 AM. If the RSVP is full and you wish to join, please mention your name on the drive thread to add on the waiting list. Latecomers will be returned back - without ANY EXCEPTIONS. Members without RSVP will be returned back - without ANY EXCEPTIONS. Please withdraw your RSVP, if you aren't joining, so your spot can be taken by others. Repeated no-show members after RSVP will have their account suspended for a month. Please RSVP on Below Calendar: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Varghese Posted November 27, 2021 Report Share Posted November 27, 2021 Dear @Wrangeld please WL me for 2nd drive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrangeld Posted November 28, 2021 Author Report Share Posted November 28, 2021 1. Please ensure that you are there at the meeting point on 7:30 AM sharp. Late comers would be sent back. 2. Firstly, get lots and lots of rest the previous day. The more the better as Liwa will not only challenge your vehicle but your mind as well. We would need your complete focus and fatigue due to less rest is the last thing that is needed on such a terrain. For those who prefer camping the previous night, you can do so at the starting point as its a nice spaced out area. Bring some firewood incase if you wish to have a bonfire to keep you warm. Cleaning up after the bonfire is mandatory. 3. Ensure that your 4x4 is well serviced recently and all the lubes and fluids are topped up. 4. 20 Liter / 40 litre fuel jerry can is needed depending on your vehicle. If you have any doubts, please post your query on the drive post and we will assist. 5. A full fuel tank at the meeting point. 6. Spare tyre should be in good working condition. If not been used recently, ensure that you take it out and check the condition properly. Also ensure that you have the wrench that can be used to remove your tyre (if needed). In the past we have seen that people upgrade their tyres but still keep the the original wrench which is of no use to remove the upgraded tyre. So please ensure that your car has the right tool to remove the tyres (if needed). 7. Air compressor, proper shovel, flag, fire extinguisher, first aid kit, 8. Fully charged radio (tuned to all Carnity Frequencies) with spare battery / radio. If you have a car charger for your radio, please bring it along. 9. Please ensure that you know how to switch off traction control (turning off Air bags is not mandatory for this drive). If it requires pulling the fuse, please research before the drive or better still, post your queries on this drive post and we would assist. 10. Car charger / battery pack for your mobile. 11. Plenty of water, approx 5 litre per person per day. 12. Bring along your breakfast, lunch, snacks, etc in easy to eat packing. We shall be having breaks in between the drive. 13. Dry food, energy bar, cookies, nuts, crisp to munch while driving 14. Bring garbage bags along to carry your trash. Littering in the desert is strictly prohibited. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrangeld Posted November 29, 2021 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2021 Looks to me like we can add @PaoloMaraziti and @Thomas Varghese to this drive. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrangeld Posted November 29, 2021 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2021 Dear Day Two Liwa Wanderers Alexanderrr @Alexanderrr Richard Franks @Richard Franks andy_macdxb @andy_macdxb Damien Ranjit @Damien Ranjit Michel Van Woudenberg @Michel Van Woudenberg Alphin Aloor @Alphin Aloor ShereenMK @ShereenMK PaoloMaraziti @PaoloMaraziti Thomas Varghese @Thomas Varghese Welcome to the drive - you all made it this far. To make sure you make it to the start line, please do read carefully the post above. We will be checking all cars before we leave. Once into Liwa, there is no easy way out like on our normal Friday morning drives. So, please, come prepared. It's a long way back to anywhere if you find that you cannot drive once you are at the start line. As I am driving the Fewbie drive on Wednesday, this will be my 2nd Liwa lead and I hope to use some of the learning from day one into day two. But let's not kid ourselves. For a first time driver in Liwa, this place is immense. The size and scale of the dunes is massive. Descents off the top of a crest can be 100meters and more - which means that there is no way back as a reroute so we need to be sure everyone is driving with care and concentration throughout: especially me! We will not, however, be driving at breakneck speed and trying to claim every dune - but making sure we enjoy the majesty and grandeur of this place. Even with the great support we have on the drive in @Alain Canivet-Abikhalil we will need to be looking out for each other and being prepared to get involved, or not, when required. I'll cover that in more detail once we are all in place at the start of the drive, and set the convoy numbering at that time in case someone does not make it for what ever reason. For those of you pondering, should I camp the night before or drive up in the morning? Let me put is this way ... If you think that you will be a great team member to the other drivers in your convoy having got up in the middle of the night, driven hundreds of kilometers before arriving at the start of the drive and then started a 10 hour drive in the heat of the desert, before you even think about driving hundreds of kilometers home, then feel free to do what you think is right. One question, just in terms of preparation: Please let me know if any of you has a winch. That just helps us in deciding where the convoy positions could be. Other than that, look forward to seeing you all on Thursday, bright eyed, and bushy tailed. See you soon in the sand. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Franks Posted November 29, 2021 Report Share Posted November 29, 2021 @Wrangeld Morning Richard looking forward to it I have a winch I have a Jeep Wrangler which I believe has a 100 litre tank but am sure I need some spare petrol. I do no currently have a Jerrycan but what capacity would you suggest? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrangeld Posted November 29, 2021 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2021 18 minutes ago, Richard Franks said: @Wrangeld Morning Richard looking forward to it I have a winch I have a Jeep Wrangler which I believe has a 100 litre tank but am sure I need some spare petrol. I do no currently have a Jerrycan but what capacity would you suggest? Hi Richard, Thanks. That's great. Knowing we have one on the drive is useful as it helps me in thinking about responsibilities and convoy position. I would advise a 20L can, just in case. Last year in LIWA on our TJ (SWB) we were completely out of petrol by 3.30pm. We would not have got out of the drive without additional gas (20L - but I think that the tank on the TJ is only 55L. You can always fill by the side of the road if you don't use it in the desert. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Varghese Posted November 29, 2021 Report Share Posted November 29, 2021 23 minutes ago, Wrangeld said: Dear Day Two Liwa Wanderers Alexanderrr @Alexanderrr Richard Franks @Richard Franks andy_macdxb @andy_macdxb Damien Ranjit @Damien Ranjit Michel Van Woudenberg @Michel Van Woudenberg Alphin Aloor @Alphin Aloor ShereenMK @ShereenMK PaoloMaraziti @PaoloMaraziti Thomas Varghese @Thomas Varghese For those of you pondering, should I camp the night before or drive up in the morning? Let me put is this way ... If you think that you will be a great team member to the other drivers in your convoy having got up in the middle of the night, driven hundreds of kilometers before arriving at the start of the drive and then started a 10 hour drive in the heat of the desert, before you even think about driving hundreds of kilometers home, then feel free to do what you think is right. Dear @Wrangeld you are spot on in this observation. My daughter lives very near to this area (Ghayathi) and I sometimes drive to see her. As you have suggested its not humanly possible to wake up in the middle of the night, drive almost for 3 1/2 hours to reach that meeting place, deflate, put up the flag and be driving another 8 hours in the desert which is one of the harshest environments and then drive all the way back. This is a recipe for unsafe driving half asleep at the steering wheel. As you have recommended I strongly suggest no one does this daredevilry before the drive or after the drive. Some may think half an hour or an hour nap is enough but its not. Even after the drive I don't recommend anyone driving back immediately without taking enough rest. Once you leave Mussaffah section of the highway towards the meeting point the speeds increase to 160km/hr with unexpected crosswinds blowing from the vast sabka on either side of the road. I even suggest the convoy should move back to Dubai together after the drive as it will be much safer to be driving with friends rather than speeding alone in that highway dead tired. For anyone who wants to have the luxury of a cozy bed and a good room, the room rents at nearby resorts start at 1800 AED per day. By the way whenever I drive to see my daughter and son in law I see most of this desert and have to control my urge to drop that plan and deflate to jump into those beautiful desert dunes and explore. Thanks @Carnity club for the opportunity to do the exploration with like minded friends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrangeld Posted November 29, 2021 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2021 2 minutes ago, Thomas Varghese said: Dear @Wrangeld you are spot on in this observation. My daughter lives very near to this area (Ghayathi) and I sometimes drive to see her. As you have suggested its not humanly possible to wake up in the middle of the night, drive almost for 3 1/2 hours to reach that meeting place, deflate, put up the flag and be driving another 8 hours in the desert which is one of the harshest environments and then drive all the way back. This is a recipe for unsafe driving half asleep at the steering wheel. As you have recommended I strongly suggest no one does this daredevilry before the drive or after the drive. Some may think half an hour or an hour nap is enough but its not. Even after the drive I don't recommend anyone driving back immediately without taking enough rest. Once you leave Mussaffah section of the highway towards the meeting point the speeds increase to 160km/hr with unexpected crosswinds blowing from the vast sabka on either side of the road. I even suggest the convoy should move back to Dubai together after the drive as it will be much safer to be driving with friends rather than speeding alone in that highway dead tired. For anyone who wants to have the luxury of a cozy bed and a good room, the room rents at nearby resorts start at 1800 AED per day. By the way whenever I drive to see my daughter and son in law I see most of this desert and have to control my urge to drop that plan and deflate to jump into those beautiful desert dunes and explore. Thanks @Carnity club for the opportunity to do the exploration with like minded friends. Please make sure, Thomas to add yourself in the RSVP. I still do not see you name. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Varghese Posted November 29, 2021 Report Share Posted November 29, 2021 12 minutes ago, Wrangeld said: Please make sure, Thomas to add yourself in the RSVP. I still do not see you name. Done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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