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Good morning all ! I hope you are all looking forward to this drive. The plan is to explore an area which is not often visited by offroaders, and i hope that means we can find some nice virgin dunes. @Stumpy Paj@DanielN@Hugo@[email protected]@Imran Asghar@Dinesh Kumar A@Andrei S@Pieter Potgieter@Ashutosh Garg@Amr Aydin@Vanessa8580 I have appointed each of you a totem animal that will keep you safe on the drive. We will be using Channel 2 - 446.031 Mhz. Please make sure to bring your offroad gears as per your level. If there are any changes in the convoy list or dropouts, we will alter the convoy setup if needed the same morning. See you all soon !

Good Morning Sailors Few more hours of slogging and we will in weekend. For me somehow these few hours are going to be a bit longer - have some work commitment till late in eve, so thought of posting details before I get engrossed again with the grind. Channel : 4 Meeting time : 6am Convoy Order : Varun @Krishna R @Ishak @Patrick van der Loo @Mahmoud Taha @Tharun Kumar V @Benjamin @Joseph Raju See you all tomo. Have fun Friday.

@MarkB@Bashar Beasha @Stan @Parliament @Jad Moussalli @Gary F @george charbel @Jonny90 @Rk ram @Brette Sorry I forgot to add that the radio Channel we will use for tomorrow will be Channel 2 Please also note the Mandatory off-road gear for this drive is as follows: Tire deflator, tire pressure gauge, compressor, walkie-talkie radio, off-road flag, shovel, first-aid kit and fire extinguisher. Thanks again and looking forward to seeing you all in the morning

@MarkB@Bashar Beasha @Stan @Parliament @Jad Moussalli @Gary F @george charbel @Jonny90 @Rk ram @Brette Team, please convoy order for tomorrows drive looking forward to driving with you all tomorrow.

Dear Desert Drivers, For tomorrow we have a strong group of experienced drivers, weather conditions still enjoyable, and a vast area with a lot of possibilities to explore. So perfect conditions for a nice morning drive. @Ashutosh Garg @Joji varghese @Anoop Nair @Ignacio Quindós @Rajiv Sam @Sam K @Imran Kashif @Chris Wing @Ranjan Das I will issue the convoy order by the end of the afternoon. Just let me know before that in case you changed you plans. For those who could not do it before, use this time to program your radio with the 10 Carnity channels. It will take you 20 min max, and then you don't have to worry about it anymore. Two Way Radio Guideline

@Joji varghese @Ashutosh Garg @Rajiv Sam @Sam K @Imran Kashif @Chris Wing @Ranjan Das Last updates for tomorrow. Meeting at 06:15 am at https://goo.gl/maps/xJ4Nzi7tNNkxNWXE7 For the convoy order, I kept it simple, the Xs, the FJs, and the remaining Jeep We will use Carnity Radio Channel 4. Enjoy the evening, have a good sleep, and see you tomorrow morning !

Drop them off in Al Wathba and drive through the desert.. Nahel is not that far 😁

Great idea with animals!

New update: After a long gap of 3 months of not off-roading with Carnity or a change of vehicle, you should join at least one lower-level drive, before resuming at your existing level.

@GauravSoni@LooperThis fewbie drive is an important one for me, as I see it as a test. I have been struggling with self confidence which reflected in my driving and my personal life. We all have such up and downs in our lives, I got my car, tyres and suspension checked by my garage. Since then my self confidence and driving improved. My flag pole fell off numerous times and got a new one fixed in the last weeks. I want to use this opportunity if I am ready for fewbie plus. I am hoping for a fabulous #GauravSoni drive where I know you will be pushing us!!! See you on Saturday morning!

Dear dune surfers!! it’s a short convoy and m hoping to cover a lot of ground experiencing every type of dune along the way!! @premindra rajaram @Gurcharan Mehta @Juan R @Richard Franks @Looper the sunrise these days is around 6.15 am.. let’s target to be deflated and flag up ready to leave by 6.30 am!! see you all tomorrow!!!

Sorry to miss you, see you next time!

I feel the vibe @premindra rajaram! And happy to see you look at things on the “plus” side! Well done.. we are sure to have a lot of fun with a short convoy!!! See you on Saturday !!!

It's a good and safe practice to join a lower-level drive after a big gap and it's even more advisable when you have a change of vehicle too. As you have had 1 FB plus in Sep 2022, that's why Varun took this call, if it was 5-6 FB+ then it would have been passable but with caution.

what kind of drama will happen makes me both nervous and curious 🤔. Can't wait till Saturday comes 😃

Dear Sand Sailors After more than 6 months, High Speed Drama series is back again to where it all started - Tawi Nazwa. Most of us have already been to Tawi Nazwa, clicked some nice pics on top of Pink Rock and had fun rolling through nice bowls that this area offers. It was all good for NB and FB drives. With this drive, we will take adventure to another level by adding lot more gas and thrill to this route well travelled. And to add to the drama, we aspire to climb all the way to the top of Big Red and have some fun around the place (ofcourse while ensuring Safety as our top priority). So get ready to make your engine roar and fulfil our Need For Speed. DRIVE DETAILS Level: Fewbie Plus and above When: 1st April'23, Saturday Meeting time: 6:00 AM - Sharp (Without any exceptions) Meeting Point: https://goo.gl/maps/DoxKyeDK91NFEGyy9 Approximate finish time: 10:30AM Type of Car: Any proper 4x4 with front and back tow hooks and 8-10 inches of ground clearance. What to bring along: Loads of water, snacks (for yourself), smiles, enthusiasm and willingness to learn. Mandatory off-road gears: Tire deflator, tire pressure gauge, compressor, walkie-talkie radio, off-road flag, shovel, first-aid kit and fire extinguisher. MUST READ AND COMPLY Offroad Flag Guideline Two Way Radio Guideline Off road Driving Etiquette's Emergency details for all off-roaders Off Road Driving - Roles & Responsibilities LIMITED SPOTS AVAILABLE This drive is limited to 10 cars only. If the RSVP is full, you can add your name to the waitlist, once anyone drops, you will be moved to the RSVP list. RSVP will close a day prior to preparing a convoy list. Latecomers will be returned back - Without any exceptions. Members without RSVP will be returned back - Without any exceptions. Please withdraw your RSVP, if you aren't joining, so your spot can be taken by others. Repeated no-show members after RSVP will have their account suspended for a month Please RSVP on below calendar

The Carnity off-road club grading structure provides you with a clear road map for your off-road journey, recognizing offroaders based on their Capabilities, Skills and Performance. This lets you navigate your own path as you gain experience while keeping you, other drivers and your vehicle safe. Driving with graded routes maximizes the fun for everyone without causing any delays or pushing yourself or your vehicle beyond limits. With an aim of continuous improvement, we have clarified, improved and developed this new grading structure version 3.0. Club Member Subscribe to off-road enthusiast subscription. Joins the Off road Club. Introduce yourself in Absolute Newbie Drive. Share your off-road experience (if any) Share your vehicle details Share your off-road gears. Absolute Newbie Attend and successfully complete the first "Absolute Newbie" off road drive. Minimum Requirements: Any 4x4/SUV/AWD with 8 - 10 inches of ground clearance. Front and rear tow hooks (stock tow hooks/eyelet are acceptable). Tire deflator, tire pressure gauge and air compressor. You can transfer your existing off-road experience by self-declaring on the absolute newbie drive topic, so that trip lead can access your capabilities and promote you to the respective rank. OFF-ROAD PROMOTIONS ARE BASED ON THESE FOUR MAJOR CRITERIAS. Car Worthiness 25% Weightage Mechanically able and sound to take off-road stress Better approach and departure angles with safe center of gravity Reliable and capable vehicle with better power to weight ratio Driving Skills 25% Weightage Drives safe and responsibly without damaging any vehicle Drives reasonably well at par with others in the same rank Able to modulate driving as per terrain and convoy response Teamwork 25% Weightage Help and support others as per off-road rank and capacity Being respectful, considerate and tolerant even under stress Support in recoveries and share off-road gears, when needed Tactical Skills 25% Weightage Capable to self-recover from most common off-road situations Split second decision making with an ability to retreat Ability to sense and avert from imminent dangers NEWBIE Drive Attended Desert Driving Masterclass or previous off-road experience. What you'll learn Introduction to off-roading Desert driving techniques Advance vehicle handling Precise tire deflation and inflation Use of HI/LO gearing and differential lock Basic side sloping and crossing sand dunes safely Basic self-recovery techniques Basic radio communication skills Skills required Attentive and cautious Patience and tolerance towards others Clear communication and listening skills Car Worthiness Any 4x4/SUV/AWD with 8 - 10 inches of ground clearance Front and rear tow hooks (stock tow hooks/eyelet are acceptable) Off-road gear required Safety flag, tire deflator, tire pressure gauge, shovel, fire extinguisher, medical kit, radio (walkie-talkie), air compressor. Drive teamwork Follow the briefing and Trip Lead instructions Follow Off road Driving Etiquette's at all times No dangerous maneuver and stunts Drive Joining Join Newbie drives only Forum participation Active participation on the forum Share drive experience + feedback Share drive pictures in the gallery Update Emergency Contact Details under Carnity user profile Apply for Fewbie Promotion, once you complete a minimum of 5 Carnity Newbie Drives. FEWBIE Drives Attended (Indicative) Minimum 5 Newbie drives are required within the last 3 months for Fewbie promotion. After a long gap of 3 months of not off-roading with Carnity or a change of vehicle, you should join at least one Newbie drive, before resuming at Fewbie level drives. What you'll learn Basic dune and sand reading Self-recovery techniques Shoveling at right place Crawling out of difficult situations Blip Blip - Coordinate steering and gas control Basic side sloping and hill climb Basic ridge riding and criss crossing Basic control over technical dunes Slightly faster pace desert driving Ability to manage stuck/refusals with radio Learn to control and avoid fishtailing Never fight or challenge gravity Skills required Enthusiastic and positive attitude Willingness to learn and help others Presence of mind and attention to detail Car Worthiness Any 4x4 vehicle with low range gearing Suitable approach and departure angle Off-road gear required Safety flag, tire deflator, tire pressure gauge, shovel, fire extinguisher, medical kit, radio (walkie-talkie), air compressor. Drive teamwork Manage second lead and sweep positions upon request Intuitive and proactive to support Trip Lead Observe recoveries and offer help, when needed Drive Joining Join Newbie and Fewbie drives Forum participation Active participation on the forum Share drive experience + feedback Share drive pictures in the gallery Post trip report after the drive Duration: 3-7 days, to gather your feedback from all trip leads. Apply for Fewbie Plus Promotion, once you complete a minimum of 10 Carnity Fewbie Drives. FEWBIE PLUS Drives Attended (Indicative) Minimum 10 Fewbie drives are required within the last 6 months for Fewbie Plus promotion. After a long gap of 3 months of not off-roading with Carnity or a change of vehicle, you should join at least one Fewbie drive, before resuming at Fewbie Plus level drives. What you'll learn Advance dune and sand reading Advance recovery techniques Rocking and crawling to make path Learn to flatten/compact soft sand patch Self recovery from crest Advance side sloping and long hill climb Advance ridge riding and criss crossing Advance control over technical dunes Slightly faster pace desert driving FULLY control and avoid fishtailing Never fight or challenge gravity Skills required Enthusiastic and positive attitude Willingness to learn and help others Extremely attentive and focused while driving Car Worthiness Any 4x4 vehicle with low range gearing Suitable approach and departure angle Bash plate and skid plate protected Off-road gear required Safety flag, tire deflator, tire pressure gauge, shovel, fire extinguisher, medical kit, radio (walkie-talkie), air compressor. Drive teamwork Manage second lead and sweep positions upon request Intuitive and proactive to support Trip Lead Observe recoveries and offer help, when needed Drive Joining Join Newbie, Fewbie and Fewbie Plus drives Forum participation Active participation on the forum Share drive experience + feedback Share drive pictures in the gallery Post trip report after the drive Duration: 3-7 days, to gather your feedback from all trip leads. Apply for Intermediate Promotion, once you complete a minimum of 10 Carnity Fewbie Plus Drives. INTERMEDIATE Drives Attended (Indicative) Minimum 10 Fewbie Plus drives are required within last 6 months for Intermediate promotion. After a long gap of 3 months of not off-roading with Carnity or a change of vehicle, you should join at least one Fewbie Plus drive, before resuming at Intermediate level drives. What you'll learn Basic GPS and navigational skills Basic tow rope and winch recoveries Extreme side sloping and long hill climb Tall dunes ridge riding and criss crossing Precise control over technical dunes Fast pace desert driving Clear radio communication skills Advance recovery skills Self recover from dune crest Soft sand recovery Pop-out fixing Skills required Adventurous and thrill seeker but in a safe manner Level headed under stressful situations Responsible, dependable and accountable Car Worthiness Capable 4x4 vehicle with low range gearing Suitable approach and departure angle High profile tires Off-road gear required Safety flag, tire deflator, tire pressure gauge, shovel, fire extinguisher, medical kit, radio (walkie-talkie), air compressor, tool kit, rated recovery rope and 2 rated shackles, GPS. Drive teamwork Manage center forward position with Trip Lead’s permission Learn/assist recoveries under Trip Lead’s supervision Re-route convoy and coordination, when needed Drive Joining Join Newbie, Fewbie, Fewbie Plus and Intermediate drives. Forum participation Active participation on the forum Share drive experience + feedback Share drive pictures in the gallery Post trip report after the drive Duration: 3-7 days, to gather your feedback from all trip leads.

Hahaha. Love the protective totem animals @Frederic

Although I was looking forward to the drive, I am unfortunately having to withdraw as the lead suggested I go to a lower level. Have a fun drive

Looks Killer. Cant wait to see it in the flesh

Yes as iftar drive has no restriction some one can RSVP to any drive as first drive then can get to iftar drive back . Welcome @Imteeazits good to have you in any drive always helpful and enjoying 🙏👍

@Felix Obst managed to get thru; sign off from the Iftar Drive and then could join this one

Oh no - I was looking forward!!!

@jodha singh shekhawat was lucky that his car didn't roll over but he found himself in this position because he disregarded the most important advice Marshals give before a drive - DON"T FIGHT GRAVITY. It was an intermediate drive and Jodha brought his new car without prior testing in the desert. My fellow off roaders please don't bring your newly acquired cars directly for higher classified drives without participating in Newbie, Fewbie drives with your new car prior to participating in Intermediate drives.

In moments like this, where was the rope secured on the Patrol?

@Wrangeld you were very courageous to go under the tipped car which was unstable and attach the tow rope to its chassis so that @Alex Raptor could slowly winch him to safety. That was when I learned from you that a slanted car with engine running blows out a lot of smoke. You gave the explanation to that and I experienced the same when my car went into a limp mode recently and in slanted position. @Shaaz Sha was worried my engine was out but I assured him its all right and Richard has explained why this happens.

Thanks for the photos @Thomas Varghese captures the moment perfectly.

Is it this 1 you were referring to @Wrangeld? It was @jodha singh shekhawat.

That was @Humayun Ghias Y62 which was 90 degrees to the slip face on a dune. I don't have video by maybe someone else does.

Had similar case in one our our drives earlier in year. Not sure if anyone has that video @Wrangeld

From the increasing speed approaching the “ take off “ speed shows he was pre determined ! The only thing he forgot to deploy his “ wings “ !!

He almost had a roll over. IMG_7320.MP4

Totally agree with @Foxtrot Oscar and @Nivin On the slip side of the dune “ mini” multiple fish tail cascade happens and this in particular need proper speed and steering control in synchrony , the slightest mismatch dictates exiting immediately . What I think his/her attempt to exit was late when the vehicle was already inclined more than 45 degree to over come the imminent flip

Basic fighting gravity and fishtailing thus the roll. It is a classic how NOT to side slope. As soon as his back end starting going down he should have steered down.

Hi all, just seen this one tik tok and thought it will be an interesting case to discuss what went wrong IMG_2195.MP4

All Carnity trip leads and support are fully trained to respond to such emergencies. Securing the passenger first, then car recovery along with GPS location, pics and videos for the cops and insurance. Mostly cops check the images and video, but sometime they do visit the area of accident. Once cops report is done, rest is "should be" easy and straight forward with "good" insurance company.

Agreeing to what Frederic said also sand fountain making is more higher in two wheel drive adding to the nonsense 😄 I believe it’s very dangerous to be in 4x2 in the sand as your front is always acting as a fulcrum to flip over , turn over .... and any thing which ends with over 😆

Driving offroad in 2WD mode indeed has no purpose, apart from the fact that they are able to show off and do more spins/donuts in the sand.

In my opinion he was fighting gravity..... not really sure what happened in the first instance but you can hear in the audio something the driver did wasn't correct (Also evident from the amount of sand behind).... As i learnt driving a Warngler they do fishtail and if you are not controlling the speed and direction you ask for trouble. to summarize my thoughts... he came in at a high speed (possibly crisscrossing the dune) and lost control (See the car's direction at 0.01 and 0.02 sec) then he tried to steer up (should have steered down instead) and with high speed his car fishtailed which just helped in flipping over

Indeed very sad incident Dr @Mohamed Seidam. This is laziness or lack of knowledge which created such incident. The stuck vehicle did not budge an inch. The way the Patrol was stuck it would have been better to recover it from the other side. As we are unable to see the other side for any dangers, securing the rope with a heavy bag or a bungee cord could have saved the Hummer driver. Diging behind the wheels to create an easy path could have also saved the hard tugs. Such a hard tug is never recommended. Much better to have a few tugs of much lower intensity.

When not having safe distance the reaction time is reduced substantially and the LC driver found him self in a no return point . it’s better to get stuck than to crash or from the start give proper time and distance for reaction please see below I didn’t get enough distance so I couldn’t steer down earlier nor I could over take for the fear of slipping on the vehicle in front of me so I preferred to stop . In the second clip I have enough time to react and decide ( I was a sec lead ) Cheers 🌷

This is a good example of a timely reminder from @Foxtrot Oscarduring yesterday's Fewbie+ drive on not overtaking even if one is at risk of being stuck.

The white Landcruiser just made his turn and was starting the sidesloping when he suddenly noticed the car in front of him lost momentum. These things are a split second decision and he should have stopped and steered down, rather than overtake. A bit more distance would have helped him to have more time to react.

Hi @AlexPol. Form a relationship with your vehicle, feel it as you learn how to drive. Let it be an extension of yourself. If you feel that your car needs harder suspensions than you are right and nobody can make a general statement on that. Harder suspensions do help with the traction on cross tracks and softer sand, but if the vehicle is your daily driver also the ride on the road is compromised.

Thanks @Rahimdad, @Gaurav and @skumar83. Very useful. Especially for off-road beginners. Does it mean that more hard suspension is more preferable for the dunes drives? Thanks.

@Mohamed Seidam firstly thanks for posting on this subject, really appreciate your time and effort, it helps us remind and remember the basics. In my opinion, all 3 cars took a different line of approach, didnt follow the leader's track. they were focused on the video rather than track and off-roading (don't have flags, probably no radios, hence guessing just friends out for fun). lastly dont think they had checked or kept proper tyre pressure (trye tracks for Pajero and FJC looked deeper than the first track, could be just optical illusion for me).

Let’s put “ Ego” aside momentarily , speed and approach to the ridge is fast and improper ( if I was in such speed I would slow gently without releasing the accelerator paddle , and won’t ride the ridge this way and steer left down . Now with “Ego “ or “overconfidence “ .. the driver decides to ride the ridge as such , now riding a long ridge in descend to me is more difficult than ascend as speed and control is extremely sensitive here to avoid fishtailing on the ridge which what happened with the driver , now trying to correct it in such speed let to initiate a second fishtail that aided the vehicle jump back to the side we see in the video and was about to flip , however input to the steering to avoid flip brought the third fishtail that driver couldn’t apprehend any more which lead to the sad roll over . what I learn is always sticks to the basics and try all your best play it safely and when it come to “ gut versus Ego” I will always choose what my guts tell me and just ignore the Ego and swerve it behind with big smile 😄

Another one regardless of vehicle brand what has happened ? The first passed and the second got refusal hint : always remember desert means proper momentum along the right approach

8 10 drives is never enough it's a continuous learning process being in group drives you get to experience many aspects which you might not experience

@derik that's a very tricky question asked by you it's an individual choice whether you want to learn something new driving with a off road club or go to the same places with same old friends. When you drive in our club you get to know people from different nationalities and different modes of life and learn from their experiences. At carnity we are a family more than a club. As you get to know people in the club you will invite your friends too and you will be able to relate to your question and answer us with your feedback.👍